Administrators websmile Posted September 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 I am getting tired of this - if you don´t stop complaining this will have consequences http://www.ultrabookreview.com/5574-asus-g551jm-review/ We all have enough to do, as said I even have to google the notebooks used, cpuz often does not show chipsets used so I had to waste lots of time on checking this, I preferred it from banning all results - maybe you should check this as well instead of stealing my time by unnecessarily complaints... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 websmile you know - I am also tired of the fact that my results are simply deleted without explanation of reasons. but when I start to ask questions - no reaction should not - why? and now you're threatening me the consequences? and do not answer the question - what is the difference between the results? Set in both the results ... in the same chipset !!! but my result is deleted. http://hwbot.org/submission/2949927 ??? trodas first time I hear that I have to keep all the equipment for life)) I found a laptop - chased test - posted. stage ended - all is well, and the result is removed suddenly and now I have to look again this laptop ??? Sorry, but screenshot is made by all the rules! Need more evidence - should be written in the regulations of the competition and not to scream at the departing train trail! something I have never seen in the rules of the requirements to provide a screenshot from AIDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Lenovo G50-70 (59429186) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wasn't the idea of aida64 so they can really tell what chipset it uses if cpu z reports wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 laptop is already sold the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted September 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 Ok, you obviously cannot read and want to leave hwbot - I wrote pages before that your result was checked and it was found that no H86/H87 chipset was used, Pieter checked this and made a task. I will simply ask you to get banned from tc and forum for 3 months, and issue will be solved - to make it clear again, before you leave, your result was not removed for lack of verification, but for wrong chipset, like written 10 times before, you obviously are not able to understand this. If you now can´t provide proof of your used component using the chipset that was asked for is not my problem, other than on lots of subs I could not verify your nb, so the case is closed and bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquzz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I partly agree with viper-rd, if the screenshot doesn't show it is a HM8x chipset, the entry should be deleted. It can't depend on wheter the moderarators find information on Google or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted September 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 The problem is that cpuz often does not show the chipset, on macbooks and some other vendors you have no way to confirm chipset than look at specs on the internet. the whole stage is no good idea, but we can confirm chipset used, we can keep it alive, otherwise it should be skipped completely. I can´t sanction people because vendors use Bios that doesn´t display chipset on cpuz, the problem is simply the platform and bios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 you do not want to understand the essence of my discontent. the result has been removed from the tournament after its closure. So I did not have more time to find the right laptop, becauseI was convinced that the already found and tested. you think this is right? and still I could not find evidence that the laptop was not necessary chipset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquzz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes, I agree it was a terrible stage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted September 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 @viper\-rd - last time, firstly you complain to wrong person, I told you several times now to contact Pieter who checked and found you used wrong chipset, ask him about this, and secondly, I strongly disapprove that you are not able to accept a moderating decision, we all try to do best to not! remove submissions because we are all benchers ourselves at staff and know about the work and sweat put into each submission, so we even do background research at stages like these, sacrificing lots of time, to be able to verify results and let them stay at rankings or competitions. If you are not able to accept a judgement made at best knowledge and deal with it in a spirit of fair play, this is nothing I can tolerate, because then we can stop checking results and save the time for ourselves and do not bother about valid or not anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 You know, when my results are deleted, and I understand why - I am calm and do not argue. However, when the result was removed without explanation - I do not want it to endure. So I asked a question here - and a normal response - can only be called your last. However, there was no reaction from Massman unfortunately not. This is not the first time removed my result. Tell me - do you think the right to delete results filed in 2007 with a motivation - "no CPU-Z validation"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 trodas You can give a link to a laptop used by me - where it will be listed chipset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Wow, some of these stages are certainly controversial. Anyway, here is what I found with my 10 minutes of Google research, your model number seems to only be sold in your area, my Russian is.... limited. Here are two other G50-70, neither with your specific CPU... http://www.cromaretail.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-G50-70-(59-413698)-156%22-Notebook-(Silver)-pc-21743-855.aspx and http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-g50-70-notebook-4th-gen-ci3-4gb-1tb-free-dos-59-422421/p/itme2y47ranmcgan If you believe these sites that particular notebook series was built with both chipsets, QM87 and HM87 so not really much help to you, perhaps someone that can comb Russian sites would be more help. Although, you may want to take all this with a grain of salt, I have been recently accused of cheating... Good luck! Edited September 23, 2015 by Rasparthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Although, you may want to take all this with a grain of salt, I have been recently accused of cheating... Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkDogg Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Same as GPU thread. Is the realbench stage still open or not? It says 30th September up top but is stating closed down lower and all sorts of errors for time remaining. I want to run this this weekend as well and don't know whether to bother now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Check my post over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper-rd Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Rasparthe. Thank you. But the laptop is no longer available. Without him, there was nothing to prove. I made more than 200 runs katzilla 775 socket and logs found - like you could get a great result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted September 24, 2015 Crew Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ive already posted this in another thread. I think it should be clear now why those results didnt qualify for the stage. You are right, you have indeed an 8 series chipset. But Massman restricted the stage to HM86/87. And your board hasnt one of these two. Haswell ULT cpus feature a one chip design. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7047/the-haswell-ultrabook-review-core-i74500u-tested/2 And there are differences to the two chip variants: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-Haswell-Chipsaetze-8-Series-Chipsets.93706.0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.paco Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Please excuse my lack of clearity on this, I doesnt read anyware that ES arent allowed. Is that correct? ES are never allowed in HWBOT competitions unless specifically mentioned in the rules Can we get clarification on ES rules for this competition? This always seems to be a point of contention, Is it as the normal ES rules of HWBOT that ES is not allowed for any current generation of CPU/GPU? or No ES of any shape or age or type? No ES, no Skylake, in general no hardware released after TC Start I do realize that for Competitions unless specified no CURRENT GEN ES are allowed or Hard Ware released after the commencement of said competitions. That is understood. My question is quite simple; What about OLDER ES CPUs that are say 2, 3, or more years OLD? Are they allowed like they have been in the past? TIA... Edited September 27, 2015 by mr.paco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 27, 2015 Crew Share Posted September 27, 2015 Nope mate not even the old stuff is allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint19 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Please excuse my lack of clearity on this, I do realize that for Competitions unless specified no CURRENT GEN ES are allowed or Hard Ware released after the commencement of said competitions. That is understood. My question is quite simple; What about OLDER ES CPUs that are say 2, 3, or more years OLD? Are they allowed like they have been in the past? TIA... Old ES generation are allowed automatically as soon as a new generation comes out...that's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Nope mate not even the old stuff is allowed Old ES generation are allowed automatically as soon as a new generation comes out...that's clear. Apparently not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 My understanding was old non current gen ES was allowed for general subs, but not allowed in comps. No ES at all were allowed in comps. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint19 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Correct correct... ES old gen are allowed for submits except in competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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