lilchronic Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 I hope it can be faster. Some issue need to solved by 1 more revision. I hope so too. Quote
Guest Bullant Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Not sure if anyone has tried pushing b -die past 4000mhz on xtu,I tested last night @4300 12-12-12 tight and is no improvement in score over 4000mhz @5ghz .... I don't think it's CPU bottle neck,not sure if it's 8gb sticks or xtu has a scaling limit on memory MHz.Ill test the same thing @6ghz 4000-4300 see what score is to rule out CPU bottle Have a full screen at home will post later Edited March 10, 2016 by Bullant Quote
aerotracks Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Nice clocks bull. At 5G increasing mem speed from 4000 to 4080 at 12-12-12 got me only a 2 point increase, went from 1790 to 1792. But then I haven't figured out the 1800+ marks at 5G some folks are pulling, maybe there is something I am missing Quote
Guest Bullant Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Nice clocks bull. At 5G increasing mem speed from 4000 to 4080 at 12-12-12 got me only a 2 point increase, went from 1790 to 1792.But then I haven't figured out the 1800+ marks at 5G some folks are pulling, maybe there is something I am missing Yeah correct me if I'm wrong the 1800+ are all 4 dim results I thought Quote
GtiJason Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Yeah correct me if I'm wrong the 1800+ are all 4 dim results I thought The top two spots are 2 dimm B die, with Luumi leading currently Digg_De has 2nd but shows a pic in the results discussion showing 1825 marks http://abload.de/image.php?img=xtu5000ffog1.png Looking at the two top spots for XTU 5g tweakers stage confirms that ram efficiency has nothing to do with increased scores on Skylake platform. While it serves as a great stepping stone that attracts beginners to our sport, it is giving them the wrong idea on what actually improves performance by rewarding them for loose timings or well no one really knows as it is so random. I'm not saying it's gotta go, as it was the bench that got me initially interested in 2d OC, but it obviously has problems that we are all aware of and the use of it in comps other than Rookie/Novice makes us look bad as a community Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 I had a very friendly discussion a few weeks back with an HWBOT staff member about benchmark vulnerabilities. When we discussed 3d2003 and LOD tweaks, he asked me : Can you see the butterfly flying over the lake ? I said yes. Then you do not run the bench correctly, he said. Think about it folks and then we talk XTU again. Quote
Guest Bullant Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) Yeah I was just surprised I didn't see improvement at higher memory MHz,like every memory divider 3600-3733-3886-4000 you see improvement in score but 4133-4300 I seen nothing As far as LOD tweaks they are allowed,I not see a problem with "LOD" as long as the rules allow it,that they do.It really doesn't matter tho if LOD wasn't allowed as leader board prob not change,sure score would drop a little Edited March 11, 2016 by Bullant Quote
phobosq Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 Guys, I got my first B-die in my hands and I'm trying to 742 in xtu 2c but I can't run CR 1T on my OCF with dividers 3600 and above. Mems are capable of 2000 12-12, even 12-11, and they do it very tight, but I am forced to go 2T. Any hints? I tried bioses 1.92, 1.93a and 2.03. What happens is during memory training it goes from 40 to 00->19->00->19->00 and safe boot triggers. I tried raising vccsa and vccio, I ran them on auto, raised PCH to 1.1, but still no success. Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 Maybe it depends on memory as well. I can boot 1T around 3900-3920 at max on my OCF, above that 2T is needed to boot, otherwise 00->19->00->19. Haven't found any magic setting that helps 742 XTU seems to be more luck than anything else. Maybe OS plays a role somehow, but I did not see difference with tight timings. Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 Maybe it depends on memory as well.I can boot 1T around 3900-3920 at max on my OCF, above that 2T is needed to boot, otherwise 00->19->00->19. Haven't found any magic setting that helps 742 XTU seems to be more luck than anything else. Maybe OS plays a role somehow, but I did not see difference with tight timings. Exactly as described. I have managed with two very high binned sticks, max 3960 - 1T - 12-11-11-28-200 with extremely tight subs, but ( under Win 10 x 64 ) it keeps repeating 740. It did one day 741, but believe it or not my loving dog pulled the mains plug by mistake and . Having said that, I did not observe the slightest difference either at 3600 - 1T tight or 3950 - 1T. Maybe 739 to 741 range. I will put it under cold soon to see if it scales with cold. Quote
phobosq Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 George, I played with 10x64 and had result distribution like 50:45:5 (739:740:741), after switching to 10x86 it changed to 10:40:50. It seems like x86 is 1 point faster in XTU. Coming back to my mems, @websmile ran them 2000 1T on Asus easy, 1933 waza, so I believe they are capable. Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted March 13, 2016 Posted March 13, 2016 George, I played with 10x64 and had result distribution like 50:45:5 (739:740:741), after switching to 10x86 it changed to 10:40:50. It seems like x86 is 1 point faster in XTU.Coming back to my mems, @websmile ran them 2000 1T on Asus easy, 1933 waza, so I believe they are capable. Those exact memories are in my hands. Bought them from Websmile. He did it on Asus Impact. Two mem slots. As for 10x64 and 10x86, correct. Was not aware, but a good friend ( you know who you are ) confirmed that. Anyway, armed with the phase I bought, and win10x86, I will give it another shot in ten days when I return from a business trip. Maybe I will get some love from my cpu. Lol... Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 George, I played with 10x64 and had result distribution like 50:45:5 (739:740:741), after switching to 10x86 it changed to 10:40:50. It seems like x86 is 1 point faster in XTU.Coming back to my mems, @websmile ran them 2000 1T on Asus easy, 1933 waza, so I believe they are capable. Hahaha, You nailed it man. Just as you were complaining, the lights shined bright. Hope I will follow soon.:ws::celebration: Quote
phobosq Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 I did, although I don't think I am able to do it again. Manual rtl/iol setting helped me to boot 1t. Quote
Guest Bullant Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 Finally got around to testing my kit of Kingston AFR tonight on air,thought I had damaged them awhile ago but they seem fine,will run it again over next couple days with fresh OS,couple adjustments and see were it goes.Will post some ln2 results from them next refill as well,awesome memory's for anyone wanting to run cold on Quote
Guest Bullant Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 The xtu I ran the other day,OS was little off I think from moving to two platforms trying to extract my full freq run,normally see little faster time then this at 4000Mhz,either way is nice Mhz tight that would be quite fast on 32m if can get to pass,will do fresh install on xtu and test this again later now that I have LN2 again. Z170 OCFM ,G.Skill retail cl17 memory's @ 4310Mhz 12-12-12 Quote
Guest Digg_de Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I want a mOCF. My best Score with 4500MHz, 1975MHz 12-11-28 1T 1.80v Quote
marc0053 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 The xtu I ran the other day,OS was little off I think from moving to two platforms trying to extract my full freq run,normally see little faster time then this at 4000Mhz,either way is nice Mhz tight that would be quite fast on 32m if can get to pass,will do fresh install on xtu and test this again later now that I have LN2 again. Z170 OCFM ,G.Skill retail cl17 memory's @ 4310Mhz 12-12-12 Simply amazing Bullant!! Quote
Guest Bullant Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Simply amazing Bullant!! Thanks mate,score is not so good but memory clocking is ok I thought ahahah Will run it again when I get time Edited April 1, 2016 by Bullant Quote
Guest Bullant Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Very nice bull. Was this on air? Was on cold memory's mate Quote
phobosq Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Z170M OCF visible on Asrock's website, can't wait to see it in retail. Quote
Alan_Alberino Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Z170 OC Formula L2.03 bios and Trident Z 2x8GB 3600 C16 B-Die February 2016 batch... 1.865v on mems... It was the third 4000 c12 boot and first that past XTU so probably it still has more Quote
Guest Bullant Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) Hey,was messing with some B-Die today @ 3733 12-12-12 on Asrock new ocfm retail board,will do few more runs later @ some higher Memory Mhz Edited April 17, 2016 by Bullant Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 What do you guys think add MOCF bios and tools in here or start a new thread? i3 6300 ES 1.07 VID running 5Ghz 1.45v aio with no delid, get ready to chop it up along with it's siblings. Quote
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