nickolp1974 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Posted January 17, 2016 Sorry mate i dont follow any other sport, was gonna use football but theres just too much corruption there Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 17, 2016 Crew Posted January 17, 2016 I've had a similar discussion a few years back with an extreme member claiming he was way better than many Elite members. This cos he nailed their scores with his cherry 4670K setup... his CPU was just running 150-200MHz faster than all the rest, not hard to achieve than is it Most important is too have fun, being it cheap or you being ready to sell wife kids and ya house for the thrill!! Quote
Doug2507 Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 I can see your point nick but I like yourself compete in extreme league. That's where our competition is, not elite or pro etc etc and the distinction between the leagues is clear. Getting points from the same pool is irrespective. Aim for no.1 extreme then keep going. The only effect I see of es stuff is sometimes on rare occasion giving elite/pro higher chance of WR's than the rest of us. But that's the leagues WR's are made in. If wanting to compete at that level then surely should be no.1 extreme for a start and looking into proper sponsorship.... Quote
nickolp1974 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Posted January 17, 2016 [FS] 1 wife, rarely used, nags alot but washing smells nice, €1500 no need for shipping, she can walk! 3 kids, 2x late teens, 1 x uni graduate, free to good home (returns not accepted) Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 17, 2016 Crew Posted January 17, 2016 We need to feed the above Nickopl1974? Quote
Rauf Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 The i3:s actually makes this a bit of an issue for me. Some of the big companies obviously have access to several from a very good batch of ES i3. They hand them out to some overclockers who take most of the high global points. The rest of the high points are taken by other ES cpus. The problem I have with this is the scaling of the globals, below the top 3-5 the scaling is virtually none. So for the extreme guys we must spend a lot of money for binning a top 5 i3, which scores 5 points more than an pretty average top 10 cpu. And 10 points over a cpu that is actually pretty bad (top 20). This takes some of the fun and the competition out of XOC. I have a couple of i3 for binning, but now there is actually no point because I don't need another couple of 30-35 pointers...and the chance of hitting higher is virutally none. And I know that any day there might come more ES cpus to push my scores down even further. Another thing about ES cpus is that I know for a fact that some of them travels around a bit. Don't know how common that is but some rankings may have the same cpu twice in the top positions. That is not impossible for retail cpus either, however I think it is more questionable when it comes to ES as they are not paid for by the OC. Still, considering all the above, I'm not really against ES cpus. They are physically the same I guess, just cheaper for the big companies to bin. As for the points, I have hopes that the coming proposition for adjustments to global points will have an adjusted slope for points distribution that makes it worth competing for a top 5-10 score. Quote
Massman Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I guess we're already there: 6.4G i3 6100 Retail [hwbot=3099067]submission[/hwbot] Crazy too it's with the lowest i3 bin. Then again, the stock frequency is also 3.7G which is very close to the frequency bin of the 6320 or even the 6700K. Quote
Achill3uS Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 my retail 6100 also maxed out at 6.3G benchable, which was not binned, just one lucky pick. nothing magical with the ES chips, they are simply a good batch. im sure if Roman would bin 700pcs of i3 we would see 6.5GHz top chips. Quote
der8auer Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 i3 is not worth it because we won't be able to get rid off the rejects. I can maybe bin 10 for myself but that's it Quote
Splave Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I just opened one with 1.200v VID lol megatrash Quote
DrWeez Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I just opened one with 1.200v VID lol megatrash 1.2 haha the 6300 I tested last night was 1.225 vid max was 5.3and I was thinking I was just a noob Quote
K404 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 The answer here is to set up a VID leaderboard. Higher is better, right? Like a wooden spoon award for having bad luck in CPU binning Quote
Rauf Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Lol, 1.2v is better than the four i've tried so far... Quote
Splave Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 The answer here is to set up a VID leaderboard. Higher is better, right? Like a wooden spoon award for having bad luck in CPU binning only if there are competition points awarded! Quote
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