SparkysAdventure Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Looking for tips on how to get 4800c14+ and/or 4133 12-11 tight working on the Dark. Quote
keeph8n Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 I don't know that I have heard anyone running 4800+C14 on the dark. Quote
dumo Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Vince did it. Pretty much depend on ram kit and cpu imc. https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Z390-DARK-and-BDie-based-low-latency-memory-overclocking-m2913749.aspx Edited March 11, 2020 by dumo Quote
sergmann Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Have you ever looked at the thread on the EVGA forum? https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Z390-DARK-and-BDie-based-low-latency-memory-overclocking-m2913749.aspx Edited March 11, 2020 by sergmann 1 Quote
keeph8n Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 nice! Glad there are more options. Have never used the board, but wasn't one I remember looking at when I was researching 4800+C14 1 Quote
sergmann Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Some Scores with CL14 on the DARK https://hwbot.org/submission/4365769_ https://hwbot.org/submission/4310780_ https://hwbot.org/submission/4355878_ https://hwbot.org/submission/4310779_ 3 Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 Pretty sure Vince was the first to show 4800c14 was competitive bench wise on the Dark. Quote
sergmann Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, l0ud_sil3nc3 said: Pretty sure Vince was the first to show 4800c14 was competitive bench wise on the Dark. You`re absolutely right, It`s probably becaouse the board is his Right now I know only two guys who actually post scores with Dark and LN2, one of these guys is me ? Quote
Radi Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 luckynoob show us first on msi i think . and we are not 2 on dark but 3 my last score was do on it 2 Quote
aerotracks Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 I got another Dark yesterday. Tried A2 TridentZ and it's rough - 4240 14-13 and 3960 12-11. Long way from 4800 A0 TridentZ are working well with 4133-4200 12-11. Quote
sergmann Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I`n now waiting for my P0 9900K and hope that the memory will run even better than with 9900KS. Dark is much more difficult in the mem than Asus. I have tried many mem-kits, not all of them you can get to 4133 or 4800. All mem settings have to be correct, only then you can get the system started. Short test with 100.1 BCLK, with 100 BCLK the time is slightly worse ? Edited March 14, 2020 by sergmann 1 Quote
dumo Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Imo the board is fine. Alll depend on ram and imc. Good ram/imc should do 4933+ c14 gb3 air Edited March 14, 2020 by dumo 1 Quote
sabishiihito Posted March 14, 2020 Posted March 14, 2020 In my experience the Dark tries to set RTLs too tight when going for 4800C14. 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 My mem doesn't seem to like waza at all, even at 3866 12-12 Anyone got tips for GB3? Quote
sergmann Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Most of new R0 CPU´s don`t like 14-13 in SuperPi, this has nothing to do with waza, just try 14-14. You are using almost 2,2v vdimm, are you sure itt`s necessary? Most mem-kits work with much less vdimm better Quote
dumo Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Some like it high. This one need 2.11 for gb3 Edited March 16, 2020 by dumo Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted March 19, 2020 Author Posted March 19, 2020 This kit likes high voltage. Also, I managed to get waza working properly. 5.53.703 with 8700k, 4133 12-11, 50/51/6/7 RTLs, one way ~1600mb waza. I know 49/50/6/6 would get me a lot closer, but how can I get sub 5.53 with my current hardware combo? Quote
sergmann Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 try to set lower waza size, sometimes it can help ;). If you are using A2 mem, try 4800 14-13 or 14-14 for super Pi 1 Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: This kit likes high voltage. Also, I managed to get waza working properly. 5.53.703 with 8700k, 4133 12-11, 50/51/6/7 RTLs, one way ~1600mb waza. I know 49/50/6/6 would get me a lot closer, but how can I get sub 5.53 with my current hardware combo? Definitely try a smaller waza. 52's are doable with 4000 12-11 even with an 8700k. Easiest solution would be pop in a 9900k and drop half a second Here's a quick run with 4082 12-11 with 49/50/6/6. 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted March 22, 2020 Author Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Getting closer Ty random used market b-die Edited March 22, 2020 by Sparky's__Adventure Quote
sergmann Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Reduce max mem to 600 and try again. Sometimes to much available real memory is not good. Quote
Alex@ro Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 He has ramdisk I see nothing wrong here, some tweaking in the os and a good wazza will do under 53 Quote
sergmann Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 48 minutes ago, Alex@ro said: He has ramdisk I see nothing wrong here, some tweaking in the os and a good wazza will do under 53 I know that, only he works with max mem 640, so he has a lot of available memory, which makes waza harder for him @Sparky's__Adventure try lower vtt, on the dark it sometimes helps Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted March 22, 2020 Author Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Got a better run through, still inching closer. I have not found any success with lower vtt, the mem doesn't seem to like it at all. I'm going to look around in OS and figure out how to reduce maxmem. It's not in msconfig, at least not like in Windows 10. Edited March 22, 2020 by Sparky's__Adventure Quote
GtiJason Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: Got a better run through, still inching closer. I have not found any success with lower vtt, the mem doesn't seem to like it at all. I'm going to look around in OS and figure out how to reduce maxmem. It's not in msconfig, at least not like in Windows 10. If you can't change in msconfig / Boot / Advanced options then use this . . . Control Panel => System => Advanced Startup and Recovery => EDIT file: => / maxmem=600 1 Quote
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