The official HWBOT TEAM CUP 2021 - MEMORY thread.

[Leeghoofd]

UPDATE ON THE RULE FOR THE VERIFICATION SCREENSHOT!!

A valid verification screenshot contains CPUZ tabs for CPU, memory & SPD

 

 

[moi_kot_lybit_moloko]

thanx for deleting submissions, people waste time and money - its doesnt matter. bravo!

[Leeghoofd]

You are very welcome. Thank the ones that subbed using identical memory kits and didn't fill in the submission correctly... this is another imposed rule thx to rule bending, deliberate or not, just more work for me...

[denvys5]

So what ARE the rules on memory stages? Hardware sharing allowed, but RAM sharing no-no? Or no hardware sharing at all, like all other stages?

[Leeghoofd]

For Processors you don't use identical CPUs

For Graphics cards you don't use identical GPUs

For Memory you don't use identical memory sticks

The API detects these, but you ofcourse have to fill in the correct memory type as in Dominator GT,...

[moi_kot_lybit_moloko]

4 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

You are very welcome. Thank the ones that subbed using identical memory kits and didn't fill in the submission correctly... this is another imposed rule thx to rule bending, deliberate or not, just more work for me...

i think you can ask more proofs from him and dont delete other subs

[Leeghoofd]

They used identical sticks of Corsair dominator GT 2000C8... same platform, same cpu, same pictures, just slightly different timings... and no subs were deleted, just removed from the compo or correctly filled in and than filtered by the API

Add CPUZ SPD tab from now...

[StingerYar]

2 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

They used identical sticks of Corsair dominator GT 2000C8... same platform, same cpu, same pictures, just slightly different timings... and no subs were deleted, just removed from the compo or correctly filled in and than filtered by the API

Add CPUZ SPD tab from now...

These are not identical. One is US, other is Taiwan, serials are different (see photo). Mobo, CPU were same, correct, but it's not a problem for a MEM stage team competition, right?

To clarify: same series kit is not ok to participate at all? So you can't use two different kits of same series, like Dominator GT DDR3? Or logic is "same SPD = same kit", like you can use kit of 1866 + 2000 with no problem, but not 2000 + 2000?

Anyway better to add this clarification to rules.

[yosarianilives]

Rules are always can't share the component for the bench category, thank God we don't have ssd bench in this comp... I'm assuming it's not just physically different sticks but also needs to be different model? So like Gt and Gtx is fine but not two Dom Gt? 

[yosarianilives]

2 minutes ago, StingerYar said:

These are not identical. One is US, other is Taiwan, serials are different (see photo). Mobo, CPU were same, correct, but it's not a problem for a MEM stage team competition, right?

To clarify: same series kit is not ok to participate at all? So you can't use two different kits of same series, like Dominator GT DDR3? Or logic is "same SPD = same kit", like you can use kit of 1866 + 2000 with no problem, but not 2000 + 2000?

Anyway better to add this clarification to rules.

Pyprime is a memory bench on hwbot so I think can share cpu, but for example ddr4 ycruncher stage is a cpu bench on hwbot so you could use all one mem kit even if it's in the "memory benches" comp

[Leeghoofd]

And how must one figure out which kit exactly was used, the Taiwan or US version, a mix? Really this reasoning is mind blowing... 

For Project 2022 we have to introduce a barcode scanner so people must scan their gear before competing...

If you had filled in the memory model used you would have discovered only one sub would count. 

[yosarianilives]

10 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

And how must one figure out which kit exactly was used, the Taiwan or US version, a mix? Really this reasoning is mind blowing... 

For Project 2022 we have to introduce a barcode scanner so people must scan their gear before competing...

If you had filled in the memory model used you would have discovered only one sub would count. 

What about for the other stages where cpu is the main active component in dB? 

[Leeghoofd]

it is always a different CPU required for 2D, same for GPUs in 3D... try it and submit with the same CPU, only the best score will count... you have been here before right? ?

[ground]

Just clarifying - one team member running Dominator GT v2.1 2000c7 and another running Dominator GT v2.1 2000c8 will be fine, right? This would, off course, be visible in SPD tab. Since hwbot itself doesn't differentiate between different Dom GT bins

[yosarianilives]

19 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

it is always a different CPU required for 2D, same for GPUs in 3D... try it and submit with the same CPU, only the best score will count... you have been here before right? ?

Yes, but say ycruncher stage. It's in the memory comps but it's considered a cpu bench in dB. So I bench with a friend and we run different cpus but same memory kit is that allowed? Same for am2+ 32m? Since they still require spd tab in sub

[Leeghoofd]

Different mem kits and CPUs for Y-cruncher

[Mr.Scott]

Why must it always get so complex? Jesus.

[Leeghoofd]

3 hours ago, ground said:

Just clarifying - one team member running Dominator GT v2.1 2000c7 and another running Dominator GT v2.1 2000c8 will be fine, right? This would, off course, be visible in SPD tab. Since hwbot itself doesn't differentiate between different Dom GT bins

I fear not, as it will be the same Dom GT for the API...

[TheRealKiwi]

i have another question about Stage 2 (AM2 / DDR2), "Only use processors using socket AM2, AM2+ socket" means that CPUs who are listed in DB as "AM3-CPU" on AM2+ Socket-Board (with DDR2) allowed or not? Thanks.

[cbjaust]

@TheRealKiwi I think AM3/AM3+ are not eligible, it's only for AM2/AM2+ CPUs in a DDR2 board.

[Leeghoofd]

it is indeed for AM2/+ CPUs only...

[Sparks.nl]

Please help me understand it better for am2+ or am3 cpu’s and what is allowed. 
 

From what I read in the above I read that a Phenom II X4 940BE cpu’s are allowed but Phenom II X2 550BE is not. 
This seems strange since this is the exact same architecture. It is just that the 550BE has 2 cores less (which can be enabled on some…). Both work on AM2+. 

Please explain it to me because I think I missed something. 

[Leeghoofd]

Nothing to understand:

940BE is AM2+ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/phenom_ii_x4_940/

550BE is AM3 https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/phenom_ii_x2_550_be/

 

and a chair is a chair

[Sparks.nl]

So if I unlock it to 4 cores it is allowed?

Edit: Because that is the only difference…

Edited September 15, 2021 by Sparks.nl

[Leeghoofd]

nothing to debate Maarten the cpu is listed as AM3 and it remains AM3 with 1-2 or 10 cores... we are just following AMD specs