speed.fastest Posted November 10, 2022 Posted November 10, 2022 My best memory score so far, DDR5-7800 32-43-43 Very Tight! 2 4 Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted November 21, 2022 Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 4:55 AM, speed.fastest said: My best memory score so far, DDR5-7800 32-43-43 Very Tight! Hi S.F., Could you post your voltage settings for this if you have a second? Would really appreciate it! Quote
bscool Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfmmvq2lp68ki3x/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0001.zip?dl=0 MC SP If anyone has both z690 Apex and z790 Apex and you test the same cpu in both MB post MC SP results. I have both MB but too lazy to swtich CPU to test. 1 Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 7:58 PM, bscool said: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfmmvq2lp68ki3x/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0001.zip?dl=0 MC SP If anyone has both z690 Apex and z790 Apex and you test the same cpu in both MB post MC SP results. I have both MB but too lazy to swtich CPU to test. I have Z690 with 13900k and just got my Z790 yesterday. You want the SP score that is listed for both the Efficiency cores and the performance cores in the AI menu, right? 1 Quote
bscool Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, marco.is.not.80 said: I have Z690 with 13900k and just got my Z790 yesterday. You want the SP score that is listed for both the Efficiency cores and the performance cores in the AI menu, right? I was curious about MC SP. I compared the CPU SP and they were the same for me on z690 and z790 Apex. But when I had the 13900k in z690 Apex the bios didnt have the MC SP yet. Info from Shamino "MC SP -------------------------------------- Tests the MC solely, without touching the DRAM (you can even remove the dram while its testing) , same mc on different boards/dimms should give similar score Tests the FMax of an MC at a fixed low SA voltage. In the same way you test a core's fmax at a low voltage idling. Since there is an element of luck when testing FMax like you would when running for a cpuz record, the outcome will not be 100% the same everytime and score will shift a little. Temperature affects FMax but the effect is weighted and the maximum package temperature during the training is taken into account to generate an unbiased score. there is a strong co-relation between MC FMax and DRAM OC just like Core FMax with Core Cinebench Freq. a sample from a not so good board , no so good dram at 1.4v by a not so good overclocker (me!): /cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/1668846233754-png.2583760/ in other words, all things remaining the same, there is a high probability that a higher mc sp will net a higher dram oc. Attachments 1668846083840.png 5.3 KBViews: 3" https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-asus-strix-maximus-z790-owners-thread.1800191/post-29075361 Edited November 25, 2022 by bscool 1 Quote
speed.fastest Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 1:26 AM, marco.is.not.80 said: Hi S.F., Could you post your voltage settings for this if you have a second? Would really appreciate it! Hi Marco, TXVDDQ 1.4v, MC 1.4v, SA Auto (or 1v), MVDD 1.76v (bios set), MVDDQ 1.72v (bios set). 1 Quote
Papusan Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 New test bios out for Asus Z690... v2204 RaptorLake Resources 3 1 Quote
Crew Sweet Posted December 2, 2022 Crew Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 1:55 AM, Papusan said: New test bios out for Asus Z690... v2204 RaptorLake Resources Another link for 2204 ? this now does not work Quote
bscool Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Sweet said: Another link for 2204 ? this now does not work https://www.mediafire.com/file/7acopenichk4iqb/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-2204.zip/file 1 1 Quote
Crew Sweet Posted December 3, 2022 Crew Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, bscool said: https://www.mediafire.com/file/7acopenichk4iqb/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-2204.zip/file Thanks bro ! 1 Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted December 4, 2022 Posted December 4, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 4:28 PM, marco.is.not.80 said: I have Z690 with 13900k and just got my Z790 yesterday. You want the SP score that is listed for both the Efficiency cores and the performance cores in the AI menu, right? Sorry bscool - I forgot to update this for you because my Z790 was dead on arrival from Newegg. I believe they sold me a used board because it had no manual in it and was missing the protective wrapping :-( I've RMA'd it but you know how that goes - no stock right now so have to wait ? 1 Quote
蔣政道 Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 ROG Z690 2301 BIOS https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c5t05u5rlufd3rk/AABXWPeYzQiwZ8H75TfwZEzaa?dl=0 2 Quote
BibOmatic Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Installed that unofficial 2301 and now stucked to it, it won't let me to downgrade to any previous version anymore, please advise ! Thanks. Quote
gkmltd Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 17 hours ago, BibOmatic said: Installed that unofficial 2301 and now stucked to it, it won't let me to downgrade to any previous version anymore, please advise ! Thanks. Try Flashbios Quote
bscool Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 17 hours ago, BibOmatic said: Installed that unofficial 2301 and now stucked to it, it won't let me to downgrade to any previous version anymore, please advise ! Thanks. I have seen others on OCN say you cannot flashback to older bioes once on 2301. I would have thought they would have made note of that as all the people that complained when they did the same with bios 2004. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BIOS 2004 Version 2004 10.8 MB "1. Improve system performance 2. Update ME version to 16.1.25.1885v2 3. Many ME updates and optimizations for the next-gen CPU are included. This version does NOT allow rolling back to the previous versions, not even via USB BIOS FlashBack™, to ensure better compatibility. 1 Quote
BibOmatic Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Many thanks for your reply bscool ! Seriously these practices should be forbidden. Owners should be able to install any bios of their choice whatever the reason is. We all know that OC results might vary depending the CPU and memory we use... BCLK OC of the i5 12400 for example is no longer working from 2004 version. I know that most APEX users are more after high end CPUs anyway but still this is not fair to lock the ability to flash back a previous version of our choice, potentially losing some stability or previous working feature. Personally, I use that motherboard mainly to run tests on different CPUs / Ram. Does someone have the detail of the "improvements" provided with this 2301 version? As I couldn't find it on the ASUS website, it looks more unofficial maybe tweaked to me... Thanks for your feedbacks. Quote
Papusan Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, bscool said: I have seen others on OCN say you cannot flashback to older bioes once on 2301. I would have thought they would have made note of that as all the people that complained when they did the same with bios 2004. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BIOS 2004 Version 2004 10.8 MB "1. Improve system performance 2. Update ME version to 16.1.25.1885v2 3. Many ME updates and optimizations for the next-gen CPU are included. This version does NOT allow rolling back to the previous versions, not even via USB BIOS FlashBack™, to ensure better compatibility. This is well and good, but Asus avoid for all they can add in an short change log for their beta bios package. And only luck of draw if Asus will do the same for the official bios on their main support download page. And I expect not all major changes will be added anyway. But less is more.. Isn't it? This below is with EVGA. Asus... Nothing. Edited December 31, 2022 by Papusan 2 Quote
BibOmatic Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 9:31 AM, gkmltd said: Try Flashbios I tried gkmltd, 2301 to 22xx or less is blocked. I also switched to the second older bios (not supporting Raptor Lake processors) but unfortunately without any succes despite many attempts... Maybe I could flash using an alder lake to boot to the setup of the second older bios, but I do not have one around me... Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Guys, isn't this why we have dual bioses? Flash the latest one to one bios and keep the old bios on the 2nd one. What's the problem? Quote
NoMS Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) On 1/24/2023 at 6:38 AM, marco.is.not.80 said: Guys, isn't this why we have dual bioses? Flash the latest one to one bios and keep the old bios on the 2nd one. What's the problem? The problem is if you got some issue while using the older bios, something like the board getting stucked at post code '28' even after clearcmos and you need to use USB Bios Flashback, you are out of luck since it only works with a newer bios version. This happened to me and now Non-K OC is gone. Edited February 7, 2023 by NoMS 1 Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 I'm still confused. One BIOS can't be flashed back. I get that. The other BIOS would have the NON-K OC BIOS installed. You can't just flip the switch to choose the BIOS that works and go from there? Sorry - I think I'm missing something here - educate me. Quote
NoMS Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, marco.is.not.80 said: I'm still confused. One BIOS can't be flashed back. I get that. The other BIOS would have the NON-K OC BIOS installed. You can't just flip the switch to choose the BIOS that works and go from there? Sorry - I think I'm missing something here - educate me. You can, but if the NON-K OC BIOS get broken for some reason and you need USB Bios Flashback to fix it, it will refuse to flash the older BIOS if you already flashed the another chip with the newer one. 3 Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted February 9, 2023 Posted February 9, 2023 Ah, I see what you mean now. Got it. One BIOS won't allow downgrades. The other BIOS gets corrupted and now you are screwed. Got it. That sucks it happened to you. Crazy bad luck ? Quote
suzuki Posted February 9, 2023 Posted February 9, 2023 What version of bios you guys use for sp readings on z690 Apex? I have bugged results with 2004 and 2204, even after ME update. 2x13900k and a 13900ks have the same exact pcore & ecore. Reflash, clr cmos, multiple resets didn't help. Whatever cpu i tested first, remains there as ratings Plus, they are different than z790 Apex and z790 Hero , not by much. Quote
TerraRaptor Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 What is the latest non-k bclk oc capable bios for Maximus z690 formula? Quote
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