Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 There IS an alternative..........the OC league. Ohhh, that's right, you don't bench sub zero. Newsflash: Dice is a lot cheaper than the hardware you're benching. There's no excuse.I realized their arrogance.....I do not talk to you more.....thanks for nothing....end. Quote
dumo Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) My 2 cents.....If peep @ enthusiast level can afford a 990X and 6990s or 590s ($3600..equal 12 pcs. of "good batch" 2600Ks to bin or a gemini pot+ endless supply for LN2 for probly 2 weeks benching straight) why in the hell they don't want to step up to the next level?. Lol C'mon, you can't stay @ sixth grade forever...f(L)uck it and move on Edited September 28, 2011 by dumo Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 My 2 cents.....If peep @ enthusiast level can afford a 990X and 6990s or 590s ($3600..equal 12 pcs. of "good batch" 2600Ks to bin or a gemini pot+ endless supply for LN2 for probly 2 weeks benching straight) why in the hell they don't want to step up to the next level?. Lol C'mon, you can't stay @ sixth grade forever...f(L)uck it and move on much respect to the enthusiast league....why do you think the other Leagues are a next level? the decision to change league is just my....the discussion here is about WR Points for Enthusiast Legue.....and not whether I should or not change of league..... you should focus on the subject of discussion, baby ;D Quote
dumo Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Who's frickin baby? Thats just my opinion man. Its all up to you and also its all up to the administrator of this site:) We just members here...If I don't like it, I will bounce outahere asap!! Stop complaining and start benching Edited September 28, 2011 by dumo Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 Who's frickin baby? Thats just my opinion man. Its all up to you and also its all up to the administrator of this site:) We just members here...If I don't like it, I will bounce outahere asap!! Stop complaining and start benching now I understand your opinion.....I saw that you have ZERO WR Points.....Stop complaining and start benching =D Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) lol Stop complaining and start to submite right (you have more than 50 blocked submissions) btw with all ressources you have, you may want to join at least OC League or even pro league, you own a computer shop right ? just my opinion, but guys who have access to all that hardware for free have nothing to do in the enthusiast league Edited September 28, 2011 by Christian Ney Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) lol Stop complaining and start to submite right (you have more than 50 blocked submissions) btw with all ressources you have, you may want to join at least OC League or even pro league, you own a computer shop right ? just my opinion, but guys who have access to all that hardware for free have nothing to do in the enthusiast league Enthusiast League (Ranking) 1st nachtfalke Global Points: 164,10 Hardware Points: 470,60 Total Points: 634,70 2nd poparamiro Global Points: 154,30 Hardware Points: 476,70 Total Points: 631,00 3rd Moose83 Global Points: 123,40 Hardware Points: 469,50 Total Points: 592,90 4th Jurky Global Points: 151,80 Hardware Points: 436,00 Total Points: 587,80 5th WhiteLion Global Points: 115,10 Hardware Points: 392,60 Total Points: 507,70 6th Faster (me) World Record Points: 55,00 Global Points: 126,20 Hardware Points: 360,10 Total Points: 541,30 - 55,00 (WR Points) = 486,30 then these profiles should change league?........ Edited September 28, 2011 by Faster Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) then these profiles should change league........ ??? Everybody who are better than you should change league ? Then when you will join OC League they all will have to move to pro league Edited September 28, 2011 by Christian Ney Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 ??? Everybody who are better than you should change league ? Then when you will join OC League they all will have to move to pro league ".....you own a computer shop right ?just my opinion, but guys who have access to all that hardware for free have nothing to do in the enthusiast league" You said it!!! Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 ".....you own a computer shop right ?just my opinion, but guys who have access to all that hardware for free have nothing to do in the enthusiast league" You said it!!! So all the guys you pointed here own computer shops too ? (I dont know myself thats why I ask) Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 So all the guys you pointed here own computer shops too ? (I dont know myself thats why I ask) I dont know....the guy with the insinuation here is you =D Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) I dont know....the guy with the insinuation here is you =D I havent made any insinuations, I know you own a computer shop. I said it and you didn't deny. Edited September 28, 2011 by Christian Ney Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) I havent made any insinuations, I know you own a computer shop. I said it and you didn't deny.I live in Japan....and sometimes sending hardware with low prices for my friends of Brazil...I do not have a computer shop....and also I do not understand the direction this conversation.....personal?.....I'm not demanding a change in the rules.....I just want to open minds to new possibilities.... Edited September 28, 2011 by Faster Quote
Massman Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 After 63 posts, I'm still not convinced that we should allow WR points in the Enthusiast League. There are valid arguments on both sides, but to me it still is just a matter of choosing one way or the other. There's no real problem that needs fixing. Quote
Gunslinger Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Ban the AMD driver hack in Heaven and this problem is solved. Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 Ban the AMD driver hack in Heaven and this problem is solved. wrong....I still have WR Points in Vantage (4x GTX580), 3DMark 11 (4x GTX580) and Heaven DX11 (4x GTX580) =D Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 Ban Faster and this problem is solved. Fixed :D Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Fixed :D this would be perfect for you, since even you being in Overclockers League do not have any WR Points :D edit: I agree...I used wrong words... thats no fair rename Museum... i was nervous and writed wrong stuff.... But sure I did not agree I have no my deserved points, cause I do not want bench sub zero, and I do not put in risk my hardware to sub zero. Edited September 28, 2011 by Faster Quote
knopflerbruce Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 The enthusiast league is for ambient cooled rigs, right? That should be the only factor that matters. It's not a low-budget league, it's a league for people who don't go subzero. Quote
Faster Posted September 28, 2011 Author Posted September 28, 2011 The enthusiast league is for ambient cooled rigs, right? That should be the only factor that matters. It's not a low-budget league, it's a league for people who don't go subzero.exactly! today we have 15000 people in Enthusiast League.....with the implementation of the WR Points in this League, the competition will be much more fun.....otherwise we will be forever doomed to fight for hardware points (old hardwares) Quote
Massman Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 The Enthusiast league has both global and hardware points. So each new generation of hardware will bring new challenges, even for ambient cooling overclockers. Quote
dumo Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) WR Points :D edit: I do not put in risk my hardware to sub zero. What's with you and these WR things:) You tested hardware that probly already paid by its owner...probly the reason you afraid to go subzero. Another league will be suitable for you..."commercial league" where hardware store employee/owner can compete and bench using their store hardware inventory (make sure you insured it). Lol Edited September 28, 2011 by dumo Quote
sergiorb Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) IMHO rules just ok Edited May 22, 2012 by sergiorb Quote
rbuass Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) I do not think we should take the personal side, but discuss what the best solution. On the one hand, if we add points for the league enthusiast, I think we would be doing justice to this particular case, and of course, possible that new cases may appear (IMHO). If we are against, we are accepting that the rules are just all right and need no adjustment. My opinion is personal and I have already given. I think that the enthusiasts, mostly, do not want to risk isolating your equipment with Vaseline, Armaflex, making mods, and by submitting its components for high voltages and this is certainly the vast majority of people participating in this house. In my view, is not why should not receive the points of global record. This is not to think of expensive hardware or cheap. Today we can see Sandy Bridge processors (for example), binned, in the air, beating results in sub zero. Imagine that a person can get a super hyper 59X processor that makes the air (hypothetical) and brake good WRs. He does not deserve the points? Or someone else with 2 HD 6990 broke another record ... we would continue with the same rules? I think the only reason that the WR were added to the league, was the fact that, because they have very few competitors in a position of having 4 video cards And consequently very few points to the record holders. The WR is a way to offset this. The proposal should be a vote to know what the majority thinks, and depending on the outcome, think and evaluate whether it is worth or not to change the rules. OMG...my english must be horrible Edited September 28, 2011 by rbuass Quote
WhiteLion Posted September 28, 2011 Posted September 28, 2011 I vote aginst WR points in the museum league! A rule is a rule, everyone now it before, if i like it to play in the museum division, hey hey i win win and i got no championship place Read the rules, take your decision where you like to play and don't cry anymore Faster. 4x GTX580 and 2 X HD6990 cost more then all my hardware that i bench and i payed all with my own money. Thx Chris to put me in the Pro league, but i try to start in the OC league, if i find a cascade and/or single stage. @sof okay this weekend with LN2 and i can change the league Quote
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