Massman Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Heads-up: still going over the competition scores. Personal note: don't travel at the start or end of competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Angel Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 what the hell is going on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 what the hell is going on here His score has been reported and blocked due to ES use: http://hwbot.org/submission/2300238_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Angel Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 one would have the score then also earlier perch are able, so that burnhh the chance would have had the score without es cpu again to reproduce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCobra Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 No! This is a nightmare. Why so late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) No! This is a nightmare. Why so late? Has been reported 3 days before end of competition and somebody poked me this morning about it. Didn't see it before, sorry. But anyway Massman has to check ALL results one by one now Edited September 2, 2012 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Massmans been out of town . He did get called on it over a month ago tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Massmans been out of town . He did get called on it over a month ago tho... sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Angel Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 thats a joke:Didn't see it before, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCobra Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Really ridiculous! Would you need to take out earlier. We had no chance to respond. Really sad, will consider then me to do something like this again! Sorry for my bad English Greatings Sven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) thats a joke: Didn't see it before, sorry. Well I am not in charge of double checking all competition submissions. Anyway it's was written "retail hardware only" crystal clear on the stage and competition limitations, furthermore the submission doesn't have any screenshot with competition background and at least CPU-Z memory tab. Also now I see that somebody commented 35 days ago about the ES use. ---- Heads-up: still going over the competition scores. Personal note: don't travel at the start or end of competitions. Edited September 2, 2012 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAGANOS Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 this is really really ridiculous guys! CPU has nothing to do with ram! how cares about this old CPU without IMC!!! ridiculous!!! if the result would have been blocked earlier, we has uploaded another scores! -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjc Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Look, you guys are in the wrong. People had commented on the submissions saying it should and will be disallowed because it was a) with ES hardware and b) didn't fulfill screenshot requirements. The rules were clear, and they were posted in the comments section of the submission well before the end of the comp. You had time to rebench it if you wanted to, it was never going to stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanCutress Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 if the result would have been blocked earlier, we has uploaded another scores! -.- I hate to point this out, but this sort of attack on the staff is nearly abuse. Surely if the user had read the rules at the beginning of the contest, then there wouldn't be an issue. It's not the staff's fault for not picking up on the failure of an individual to read and follow rules. As a team, you have to combine you efforts to make sure each submission is valid at all times. Even a month before the end of the contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAGANOS Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 take a look around at all the other results in this competition! i am sure there are more of such results that no one had seen or reported! why we? maybe call me a "bad loser" or what ever, but i am such we deserve the win -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted September 2, 2012 Crew Share Posted September 2, 2012 take a look around at all the other results in this competition! i am sure there are more of such results that no one had seen or reported! why we? maybe call me a "bad loser" or what ever, but i am such we deserve the win -.- Calm down mate. Its calling Team Benching. We benched very good. Maybe better than other Teams. But if one member didn't looked carefully over the cup rules and we, the more experienced benchers didnt make him aware of it, we failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Calm down mate. Its calling Team Benching. We benched very good. Maybe better than other Teams. But if one member didn't looked carefully over the cup rules and we, the more experienced benchers didnt make him aware of it, we failed. You did bench very well. Don't be so hard on yourself. Things slip by. It's very hard to police every single sub made by your team. I've seen other subs by other teams with errors in them. They will be found also. Great comp, loved it. See you the next go round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCobra Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 @ HWBot is right if it is times sincere burn has not observed the rule, which is the charge of the I but the HWBot the score just take out should have! Since had we still insist can respond either get a different CPU or at a different benchmark again more get out can. For this reason, I find it not IO the first place will be recognized from us then. Greetings Sven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Say what? Massman will take care of checking all results one by one hopefully tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 This is not an ideal situation, but still - major screwup to use ES in a competition. I can't remember ANY HWBot competition where you could use engineering samples, at least not the old monthly challenges. ES scores can't be allowed here, period. In my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroneng Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) It is a shame that this was not resolved several days before the end of the competition but the usage of an ES chip was definitely against the rules. AwardFabrik is an excellent team and superb sandbaggers! Lol Edited September 3, 2012 by Electroneng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 There was a discussion within our team and I thought it was handed over to the hwbot crew to resolve LONG before. But the score stood there, accepted by everyone and when it is for more than 8 weeks...well why deleting it now? There is nothing to really blame about "on the paper" as the rules are 100% clear in that point and the score is not completly legit but only because of things that do not really affect the result (keep that in mind!). maybe just a little comparison: If there was a questionable penalty in the 5th minute of a football game the ref will decide it in the 5th minute. He will not come after playtime and call "uhhh I think I was wrong in the 5th minute this penalty does not count". Maybe for the future sort the questionable results right away to let people have time to react. Everyone noticed this screen before, just nobody mentioned it - maybe the worst anti-sandbag in history and worth a smile if you take things not too serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) maybe just a little comparison: If there was a questionable penalty in the 5th minute of a football game the ref will decide it in the 5th minute. He will not come after playtime and call "uhhh I think I was wrong in the 5th minute this penalty does not count". Bad comparison, there is no 'real time' ref at HWB. It relies on the members and staff to police the subs when they have time. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the bencher to check his sub for accuracy before he submits it. If you don't want or like that, then it should be up to their respective team captains to check it for them. There is no fault of the staff or anybody else here, except the bencher who submitted the entry and maybe his team for not checking it. Edited September 3, 2012 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Iirc the score actually got reported before. at least it was questioned in our forums and marked as "under moderation" when I checked. So I did not re-reported it. I would have done it for sure to save us exactly from this situation. Anyway it is NOT a bad comparison...at least equal to the "bolt-axiom" we had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 3, 2012 Crew Share Posted September 3, 2012 SOF FAIL STUMMERWINTER FAIL My heroes !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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