yosarianilives

I didn't use it at the time, but in later testing I found that the sandy no avx preset may improve performance. Also I didn't use hypers cause I didn't think they'd work, but now I've seen with some better testing that the preset is just crap for hypers and if you all manual they might work some wonders.

.61 wen?

Lol, was the first run for me on that chip, but was the 4th chip. The secret for me was just out clock everyone Was running 109.9 and some tight timings on my psc. Didn't even use the optimal OS for xtu. I actually binned on x265, which was awful to bin on with 40 minute runs. I just ran xtu as an after thought while I ran everything else.

Wait for the site wide recalc to finish

I guess the easy solution is just get a higher score than anyone else

That's not the case in the screenshot above, 2-5th get pts according to rank even though they have the same score. I just took the easy solution of beating everyone's score to avoid the chance of not getting full pts

I assume because it's what stands between him and a gold.

Although I have nothing to worry as I'm not tied with anyone, for future reference how is 1-5 determined in the case of a tie? Sub date?

Thank you for clearing any confusion. It's a shame it's really hard to detect on faster hw, but at least should be fairly apparent on older/slower hw where this would be less of a cpu bench than it is now.

Glad to hear! Hopefully we can get a clear response from mods other than "stop trying to break benchmarks" so that I can start being competitive in aqua A "yes this is cheat", or "no is okay" would be plenty.

No issue, I don't think that at this point monitor pull would be considered a cheat because of it's widespread use and the fact that it isn't some uber god tier "tweak" like it would be for 3dm03. Surely LOD can do more than monitor pull does on some depending on the card. I mainly want to see some more conversations on it for aqua, cause it's pretty cut and clear for 3dm03 but I can't get a clear answer on aqua. Once I get a clear affirmative from mods I'll make a guide, perhaps I can even do a workshop at the bench meet in Philly

All I asked the mod was "is monitor pull allowed considering that it causes a blank screen to be rendered", never heard a response on that. It wasn't a report, just a pm.

From my testing it's not as huge of an uplift as 3dm03, probably because of the shorter subtests. It may be a driver thing or that it's still somewhat gpu limited, just more like a super lod. When I did testing on intel igp it did not lift the subtest score in a way that you'd expect from cpu only bench. Also when you pull at the beginning it only glitches the first few gts. If you plugged and unplugged a few times you may have had a wr. In 3dm03 monitor pull only glitches the subtest that you pull during, for my top 40 score with intel igp I pulled at the beginning of each subtest. In aqua it seems to be harder to do specifically than that. For example in my testing I pulled during the loading screen, then gt1 rendered normally but gt2 was black screen with gt3 normal. It's very hard to consistently glitch every subtest like you could do for 3dm03. In my opinion it's 100% glitching the bench, but more testing needs to be done to see what it's capable of. So perhaps we should just accept this for aqua because it's been used for years and isn't more than a 10-20% increase usually, unlike the 700%+ increase in 3dm03. We can just treat it like a super LOD. We reeally need to get some mods to chime in and set the record straight. When I first discovered what exactly monitor pull does in aqua I reached out to the mods asking about it and never heard back, unlike with 3dm03 which gave me an instant response of "Hell no, it's not legal!". If this ends up legal then I may need to make a guide on how to maximize this "super LOD" for the community so that we can see bigger scores.

Well the thing is the way monitor pull works is fundamentally a cheat. It's hard to see on faster hw as the scenes are too fast. But when I pull on slow hw and plug back in I can see quite clearly that a black screen is rendered for the gt's that show score improvement. It's the exact same as 3dm03, it's just harder to tell how it works so many choose to remain ignorant and not question a good score.

Will do! Also thanks rankings look much better now for that, also I noticed that the wrongful pts I had a few days ago for gpupi and wprime have gone away so the recalc appears to be working.

Interesting that every gt except gt1 and gt2 is lower than dancop's, however all gts are higher than ikki's sub so it could easily be different gts scale differently. Dancop is on a 980ti vs this 1080ti afterall, and driver differences could easily account for gt1 and gt2. I couldn't definitively call it monitor pull with any degree of certainty, and I doubt that an mod could either. It's probably legit. We'd need a known good score with a similar OC to say anything else.

This looks amazing! Definitely on my radar, will see if I can make it once I have a bit more of my summer schedule nailed down.

Haven't run anything on ln2 yet, but I can confirm everything you said about drag offscreen and high priority for just about every cpu. If you can run realtime splendid, but usually it causes an actual system lock up on most things that are unlocked multi unless you lose a couple hundred mhz.

Big OC, much respect

The recalc won't be done until at least April. Keep waiting

Exactly why I haven't even been subbing anything until the smoke clears. However I brought this up because the wprime sub got it's pts in the MIDDLE of the whole site recalc, it didn't have pts a week ago. That means that it got it's pts AFTER being touched by the recalc. This needs to be looked into as it suggests that rankings are still fundamentally broken and that a whole site recalc may not fix them. As for the issue with 1c rankings, I think that's a separate issue to what's been going on with rankings. It seems that basically if you sub something for x265 4k and you select no pts or rank it still gets ranked, as 1 core cpu. No matter the true core count.

There is currently a recalc going that's supposed to fix them, but it seems that it may not be completely successful as my sempron wprime score suggests.

Hi, I have 2 subs that are getting the wrongful pts. http://hwbot.org/submission/3724805_yosarianilives_wprime___1024m_sempron_150_18min_13sec_124ms and http://hwbot.org/submission/3622335_yosarianilives_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_xeon_e5_1607_14min_40sec_748ms I only mention because the wprime score just got it's pts today. Which means that something is still broken with the rankings, as that would suggest it got it's pts AFTER getting recalculated by the giant recalc you forced. Also could you take a look at 1c x265? There seems to be a bug with people subbing things for "no pts no rank" then becoming part of the 1c rankings. If you look at 1c rankings here, http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_4k/rankings?cores=1#start=0#interval=20 it only shows 1c cpus. However on the main page for the bench this sub is shown as the first place for 1c http://hwbot.org/submission/3615254_samsarulz_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_core_i5_7600k_8.97_fps and because of that no actual 1c cpu gets global pts for x265 4k.

Since this version did not support 3 decimal places the ranking is with the rounded number as that's all the datafile tells. So it's ranked as .610, as for the hw pts they came back later that day. I don't think the subs had actually lost their pts they just didn't apply to my ranking for some reason. But now that I've got them back hw pts seem more or less correct, waiting to sub anything new until the smoke clears though as I don't want to contribute to slowing it down. As for g470 globals, it seems that for some reason there's an 8.71 fps result being included in the rankings even though it's not a 1c result and it's listed as for "no pts or rank" so I think it's a bug.

They didn't seem to mind, actually they kinda enjoyed it. Just need some air flow. Let me do 1750 6-6-6 with just about all the subs the chv gives minned out. Also had to max vdda and vddr to get the IMC to be happy, along with a generous dose of cpu-nb. Vcore only wanted like 1.7v though.