Is it really OLD SCHOOL?

[Bones]

To many 775/771 is not old school because of the later gen stuff. Ddr3 pcie2 and quads are not that old school. In fact many over at vogons still use latter 775 systems as there daily system.

 

This isn't the Vogons forum or a competition being hosted by them.

 

Now older first gen 775 stuf is in my opinion old school, but it pushing it.

 

As if your singular, personal opinion would make any difference with planning the layout of the comp..... Because it doesn't.

 

Anyway I'm setting this on out. I don't have any 775/771 parts and I don't plain on buying any. I'm having more fun breaking sk604 scores right now. If I had the parts I might join in, but 775/771 baords are just to costly to buy for one round of old school.

 

With this last you made and proved the case for your comments to mean nothing but pointless trolling, since the comp won't concern you in anyway what you have to say is useless dribble and nothing more.

 

In short - Butt the **** out already.

[ozzie]

lol too costly are they , not too bad on the fsb with it either is it you idiot, 536 i got from a costly board ??...lol too funny, best you just bow out , get back in your stable and eat some hay or somethin, doubt your owner would you provide you some oats to get the brain workin

 

https://vod.ebay.com.au/vod/FetchOrderDetails?sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AVPS&itemid=122232294613&transid=1715387932002

Edited December 8, 2016 by ozzie

[skulstation]

For stage 1: is it ok if we use non quadro cards?

I think its ok as stage 1.is focus to ram and not the gpu

[websmile]

Yes, that´s OK because it is a 2d stage

[skulstation]

I assume thad ES whil not alowed like always.

[websmile]

General rules are still valid, these rule out ES use at competitions unless they are explicitly allowed. I see no parapgraph that allows them, so they are out

[skulstation]

General rules are still valid, these rule out ES use at competitions unless they are explicitly allowed. I see no parapgraph that allows them, so they are out

I don't see the parapgraph ether, therefore i asked.

But no problem stil have some other non ES cpu's to compeet

[websmile]

For future reference, at general rules 1,2 (unreleased/NDA hardware) there is a table that shows the use of unreleased hardware and also ES hardware.

[ozzie]

i dunno to much about too much at all , from what i see this matrox card inclusion in this platfrorm is gunna be very interesting, from $20 to $2000 +, well i spose it depends on what you can and what you cant , of course unless anyone has got 1 ready to go, i quite like it, seems to bring people cards back to the toors of it , in other words , get what you get from it .i feel.,

[Alpi]

Finally ! It seems quite interesting round ! I'm in trouble only with vga. Don't know even a bit about quadros. I've just bought a Giga P45 for quad cpus, can't stand waiting to test finally ! Am I right that FX4600 is the strongest "pre G96" quadro ? It's so rare and pretty expensive. Is it able to mod a 8800 gtx to quadro ?

You mentioned that 775 is not so oldschool. Maybe yes, but 775 has pretty high differnces between the early and the late platforms. The early stuffs is nearly not stronger than a top s478 but till the end it became close to even a 1366 performance. Most of the quadro tpyes are pretty weak. Even Vantage or 3d06 is not a big celebration on a low end vga. I can remeber clearly that how many times I tried 06 last season with 939 + nv7000. so, so much times. Cpu test made the gt fpses so much acceptable.

[skulstation]

ther ar stonger cards than the quadro fx 4600 thad we can use.but old power come whit a hafty price tag of 160€ on ebay.

I did go for a fx 4600 ( g80 gl ) and a fx 3700 ( g92 gl ) for a pirce tag lower than the stonger fx 5600 ( g80 gl )

 

softmot a normal 8800 to a quadro whil work.but it whil not be alowed.

have askt this some time a go.

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=469772&postcount=18

Edited December 12, 2016 by skulstation

[Luebke]

@ topic:

in my eyes is old school

cpu 32 bit and older

gpu DX9 and older

 

64 bit cpu und gpu with DX1X is in my eyes the border to modern technology.

 

i know s775 and 8800GTX are old, but they are not old school to me.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Luebke

[ozzie]

theyre 12yrs old now, thats plenty old enough to be catergorised as old school.. put them up against what is available today and see if theyre not old school and how close they are to "new technology", they arent even in the race to be close

Edited December 12, 2016 by ozzie

[Alpi]

softmot a normal 8800 to a quadro whil work.but it whil not be alowed.

have askt this some time a go.

http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=469772&postcount=18

 

Than I have to look for a 4600 maybe ! This is what can be found for acceptable price and pretty powerful also.

[I.nfraR.ed]

And what about the other way around.

Are we allowed to flash a quadro with a geforce bios?

[websmile]

No flashing at all

[I.nfraR.ed]

Bad, bad Michael!

I will be a rebel then - save the quadro bios, then flash it again

[websmile]

We have a change obviously at the way database is handled, so device id no longer is valid to determine which class a card belongs to but the amount of shaders, Rops and so on. This might lead to flashing being allowed as it doesn´t matter anymore what model you buy but what gpu characeteristics are shown, a quadro then is determined by BIOS used it seems. Will update this when I have logical explanation for this why this refers to some cards and why I should not allow this here

[Alpi]

I think that people playing that oldschool overclock thing are respect the competition and community to play clear. Anyway, this is the only way that makes it exciting, isn't it ? Trying to reach you and your stuffs border.

Anyway, can't believe that I've just found an fx-4600 for the price of a 8800 gtx at a local site ! :nana:

[Mr.Scott]

I think that people playing that oldschool overclock thing are respect the competition and community to play clear.

 

I always hope that is true. GL in comp.

[Guest Digg_de]

I've bought 2x FX 4600 and a cheap P45 DDR3 Board this weekend.. i'm down!

[TAGG]

No DDR3 here, but some pretty good ~700MHz DDR2 and a watercooled, voltmodded FX 4600

Edited December 13, 2016 by TAGG

[Luebke]

@ozzie:

theyre 12yrs old now, thats plenty old enough to be catergorised as old school..

no, its old enough to categorise it as old, but old isn´t the same as old school. haswell is old, but 64-bit cpu is modern, because kaby lake und zen will be 64 bit cpu.

u can categorise as u want. that´s only the way i would categorise "old school", because it has effect to the benchmarks. for exsample u can´t make a 64 bit benchmark on a 32 bit cpu... but u can make every benchmark running at kaby lake running at 775, too.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Luebke

[Alpi]

No DDR3 here, but some pretty good ~700MHz DDR2 and a watercooled, voltmodded FX 4600

 

I'm searching for a 8800 gt/gts wblock. The pcb is the same isn't it ?

[I.nfraR.ed]

Get an universal one - it's a better investment.