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I have posted this question a couple of times elsewhere on the forum as I get my 1700X tomorrow and don't want to have to re bench any benchmarks if I need to do them on Windows 7.

 

Is the Ryzen in the same class as Skylake & Kaby Lake in terms on benchmark results being valid on Windows 10?

 

Thanks

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    Yep to avoid any issues plz bench Ryzen 2 series on  Win7,  the APUs are exempted and accepted on 8/10.

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I have posted this question a couple of times elsewhere on the forum as I get my 1700X tomorrow and don't want to have to re bench any benchmarks if I need to do them on Windows 7.

 

Is the Ryzen in the same class as Skylake & Kaby Lake in terms on benchmark results being valid on Windows 10?

 

Thanks

 

There was a post saying it is affected by the RTC bug so it is in the same class as everything other than skylake and kabylake. But there are some benches that are ok, like 3dmark suite, gpupi and a few others.

Why is kabylake ok and zen is not?

The cpu officially only supports win 10. And now all my benches are deleted!

Is there no way to make it work with win 10?

Ask AMD to fix their bugs. It is really annoying that this happend but its not about hwbot it is AMD who has to deliver.

 

And M$. ;)

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I always bench Kaby Lake with Windows 7 now anyway as it gives better results most of the time. You don't need chipset drivers for most motherboards if you just want to run benches either, I don't bother loading them in anymore.

How does this apply to boards without bclk tuning, anyway? The vast majority of ryzen boards (including all B350-based boards) are locked to 100mhz bclk so would they be fine as long as a cpu-z motherboard tab is present?

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No - the problem is deeper, there are articles on the internet that propose with BIOS updates bclk tuning might be unlocked on boards without external pll chip and msi even released beta Bioses in the past. In fact AMD does not support Hwbot at all if I am not mistaken, including no deeper information on stuff like this and similar. We will have to stay with win7 except for the benchmarks with integrated timer and 3Dmarks with link and sysinfo enabled

5 minutes ago, websmile said:

Glad to see you are happy that amd does not bother to fix the rtc bug and at same time does not offer win 7 support - you are a real role model for us all :)

i thought it was funny when i spend £140 on an apu to find i couldnt even boot into windows for 3 hours trying to get it working :) i dont run windoge 10 on anything other than my mining rigs. 

 

does this mean 90% of all ryzen and threadripper scores are technically against the rules XD  

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Just now, websmile said:

This is not funny but pathetic, AMD practically ends the opportunity to bench lots of chips by simply not caring. The fact these do not support win7 is known for weeks btw...

ik, i bought it on day 1 though. 

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3 hours ago, flanker said:

I heard, the main problem is not AMD but Microsoft want not support Win7 or help with HWBOT issues

Intel fixed the rtc issue on skylake and newer systems. We all know ms does not give a f... about this, but give me one good reason apart from that amd does not give a f... as well why Intel can do it and amd can't

4 hours ago, websmile said:

Intel fixed the rtc issue on skylake and newer systems. We all know ms does not give a f... about this, but give me one good reason apart from that amd does not give a f... as well why Intel can do it and amd can't

Intel used the money they saved soldering the lids for the past 6 years on to work on fixing it XD 

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