No1Spank Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I have posted this question a couple of times elsewhere on the forum as I get my 1700X tomorrow and don't want to have to re bench any benchmarks if I need to do them on Windows 7. Is the Ryzen in the same class as Skylake & Kaby Lake in terms on benchmark results being valid on Windows 10? Thanks Quote
Strong Island Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 I have posted this question a couple of times elsewhere on the forum as I get my 1700X tomorrow and don't want to have to re bench any benchmarks if I need to do them on Windows 7. Is the Ryzen in the same class as Skylake & Kaby Lake in terms on benchmark results being valid on Windows 10? Thanks There was a post saying it is affected by the RTC bug so it is in the same class as everything other than skylake and kabylake. But there are some benches that are ok, like 3dmark suite, gpupi and a few others. Quote
No1Spank Posted March 10, 2017 Author Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks for the quick reply, I'll run windows 7 at least for benching. Quote
Lio40 Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Why is kabylake ok and zen is not? The cpu officially only supports win 10. And now all my benches are deleted! Is there no way to make it work with win 10? Quote
Crew Strunkenbold Posted March 21, 2017 Crew Posted March 21, 2017 Ask AMD to fix their bugs. It is really annoying that this happend but its not about hwbot it is AMD who has to deliver. Quote
Mr.Scott Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 Ask AMD to fix their bugs. It is really annoying that this happend but its not about hwbot it is AMD who has to deliver. And M$. Quote
unityofsaints Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 You can bench things like GPUpi for CPU and x265 on Windows 8 and above with realtime clock enabled. Quote
No1Spank Posted January 20, 2018 Author Posted January 20, 2018 I always bench Kaby Lake with Windows 7 now anyway as it gives better results most of the time. You don't need chipset drivers for most motherboards if you just want to run benches either, I don't bother loading them in anymore. Quote
mickulty Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 How does this apply to boards without bclk tuning, anyway? The vast majority of ryzen boards (including all B350-based boards) are locked to 100mhz bclk so would they be fine as long as a cpu-z motherboard tab is present? Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 21, 2018 Administrators Posted January 21, 2018 No - the problem is deeper, there are articles on the internet that propose with BIOS updates bclk tuning might be unlocked on boards without external pll chip and msi even released beta Bioses in the past. In fact AMD does not support Hwbot at all if I am not mistaken, including no deeper information on stuff like this and similar. We will have to stay with win7 except for the benchmarks with integrated timer and 3Dmarks with link and sysinfo enabled Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 the 2200g and 2400g dont work at all on 7 1 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted April 19, 2018 Administrators Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Jumper118 said: the 2200g and 2400g dont work at all on 7 Glad to see you are happy that amd does not bother to fix the rtc bug and at same time does not offer win 7 support - you are a real role model for us all Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, websmile said: Glad to see you are happy that amd does not bother to fix the rtc bug and at same time does not offer win 7 support - you are a real role model for us all i thought it was funny when i spend £140 on an apu to find i couldnt even boot into windows for 3 hours trying to get it working i dont run windoge 10 on anything other than my mining rigs. does this mean 90% of all ryzen and threadripper scores are technically against the rules XD Edited April 19, 2018 by Jumper118 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted April 19, 2018 Administrators Posted April 19, 2018 This is not funny but pathetic, AMD practically ends the opportunity to bench lots of chips by simply not caring. The fact these do not support win7 is known for weeks btw... Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, websmile said: This is not funny but pathetic, AMD practically ends the opportunity to bench lots of chips by simply not caring. The fact these do not support win7 is known for weeks btw... ik, i bought it on day 1 though. Quote
unityofsaints Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Win 7 works fine, what's the big deal? You can even install chipset drivers or bench 3D if you feel like it. Quote
speed.fastest Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 No, Ryzen APU no support Windows 7, you will get blue screen. Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 i can confirm ryzen 2700x and ch7 works great with 7. tried it today. 1 Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 22, 2018 Crew Posted April 22, 2018 Yep to avoid any issues plz bench Ryzen 2 series on Win7, the APUs are exempted and accepted on 8/10. 1 1 1 Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Thanks for the information that is good to know. Quote
flanker Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 I heard, the main problem is not AMD but Microsoft want not support Win7 or help with HWBOT issues Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 23, 2018 Crew Posted April 23, 2018 and James Prior told you that prolly... Quote
Administrators websmile Posted April 23, 2018 Administrators Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, flanker said: I heard, the main problem is not AMD but Microsoft want not support Win7 or help with HWBOT issues Intel fixed the rtc issue on skylake and newer systems. We all know ms does not give a f... about this, but give me one good reason apart from that amd does not give a f... as well why Intel can do it and amd can't Quote
Jumper118 Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 4 hours ago, websmile said: Intel fixed the rtc issue on skylake and newer systems. We all know ms does not give a f... about this, but give me one good reason apart from that amd does not give a f... as well why Intel can do it and amd can't Intel used the money they saved soldering the lids for the past 6 years on to work on fixing it XD Quote
Administrators websmile Posted April 23, 2018 Administrators Posted April 23, 2018 I rather think they were bored because they faced no competition Quote
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