Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 25, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, GeorgeStorm said: Whilst he came across as he often does, I think adjusting the rules to show ranking doesn't need to be shown is sensible. (since it's not enforced) In my example with the 2600 the score is shown in the ranking, that is what counts for me. No need to show the entire ranking ladder... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 25, 2018 Members Share Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, Leeghoofd said: In my example with the 2600 the score is shown in the ranking, that is what counts for me. No need to show the entire ranking ladder... I agree, hence why it would be worth editing the rules/example screenshot to demonstrate this to avoid potential confusion/more pointless reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 All sounds good looking forward to this.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Best compo of the year, getting excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, macsbeach98 said: All sounds good looking forward to this.? Warp9 gonna show up this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 We wont be missing it thats for sure been waiting for it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbjaust Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 16 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Start date will be the 5th of August till the 31st of October. Frederik is adding the stages in the competition pages Hardware list will be available soon, so you can start scamming Ebay and co, we tried to keep it as cheap and accessible as possible. Verification rules will be expanded versus the regular standard offical HWBot rules: CPU-Z tabs for CPU, Mainboard and Memory (+SPD for the memory stage) Verification Screenshots are always full screen, no removal of taskbar, no clipping,... Retail hardware only (also for motherboards) Competition Background must be visible To avoid the drama of last year, picture(s) of the RUNNING OC setup has to be added with each submission For all 3DMark benchmarks the latest Systeminfo has to be installed (have verification files at hand) Remarks, feedback other thoughts are as always welcome Since the full task bar must be visble (as per a later post) I think that another great rule would be to have the hwbot submission time be no more than 24 hours after the time on the bench system. Yeah, time zones (and/or change to future time so sandbagging would still be a thing I guess) but a commitment to setting all desktops to a particular time zone could work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, cbjaust said: Since the full task bar must be visble (as per a later post) I think that another great rule would be to have the hwbot submission time be no more than 24 hours after the time on the bench system. Yeah, time zones (and/or change to future time so sandbagging would still be a thing I guess) but a commitment to setting all desktops to a particular time zone could work... Staggered subcategory end dates works as an anti-sandbagging measure too and isn't as much of a pita as your suggestion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Random question, will the competition page be exclusively on OC-Esports or will it also be on the main site as the old school comp is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 26, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted July 26, 2018 nope front page only Obscure 6 hours ago, unityofsaints said: Staggered subcategory end dates works as an anti-sandbagging measure too and isn't as much of a pita as your suggestion. Issue with this Team competition that you have to get the hardware first, this as a team (so communication is vital who does what). The ones who have all of the hardware already (aka the hoarders) can go and post the needed scores ( read multiple). It might work for a single score competiion with several stages, but for these big ones it might be unfair for some users Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Alby can we have a list of the stages put up here so I can copy it and paste it for our forum makes it easier for us to sort out who is going to do what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I don't think that requiring the date of bench in screeny to match the date of sub will do anything. Sandbaggers know the date that they'll be subbing and can just change the date that windows says the bench was run. The only real way to beat sandbagging is to have a random stage end every week or a random third of stages end at the end of each month with later stages being worth slightly more points overall to not penalize people who couldn't get hw in time for the first batch of stages ending while also having beginning stages worth enough that sandbaggers can't sub only the last stages and win. Overall it's hard to beat sandbagging in a balanced way, the best way is that we all agree to sub within a reasonable amount of time of actual benching. Of course this would require we all be honest... I for one plan to sub when I bench. Doesn't mean I won't procrastibag though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 With the date and time thing with a certain Graphics overclocking tool the date has to be 2015 if I have to use it.the day and month can be right so I dont know about that too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, macsbeach98 said: Alby can we have a list of the stages put up here so I can copy it and paste it for our forum makes it easier for us to sort out who is going to do what +1 to this please, I understand it might be a pain to do but it makes it a lot easier for various teams to be able to organize things internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 26, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted July 26, 2018 The taskbar will show more than just the date in some submissions, I don't need it for that :p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 26, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ObscureParadox said: +1 to this please, I understand it might be a pain to do but it makes it a lot easier for various teams to be able to organize things internally. I'll crosscheck where Frederik is at , I had some minor modifications last minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 So who's the spearhead for Mad Shrimps this time? I remember that 750 litre LN2 thrashing last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 26, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted July 26, 2018 No longer me, I can't design a compo and participate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: The taskbar will show more than just the date in some submissions, I don't need it for that ? Oh I know, I meant for the comment from someone else that date must be close to actual submission date. I assume the main reason is to make it easy to determine windows version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) You guys are all preaching to the choir about sandbagging. Leeghoofd and the madshrimps are the KINGS of sandbag mountain Edited July 26, 2018 by bigblock990 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Sandbagging is just part of the game, you guys need to learn to push to the max and nothing else, if you're holding back or thinking a score is "good enough" then it's your own problem and nobody else's. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I think the point of sandbagging is mind games, make the other team think they're doing good so you can destroy their hopes and dreams on the last day. As for the r/overclocking strategy of procrastibagging that's just laziness. I know I can't be assed to bench hard until I only have a week left and I realize how many stages I have yet to bench for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Sandbagging is not the be all and end all, you can even screw yourself over by sandbagging since the server doesn't do too well with people submitting hundreds of scores at the same time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, ObscureParadox said: Sandbagging is not the be all and end all, you can even screw yourself over by sandbagging since the server doesn't do too well with people submitting hundreds of scores at the same time Sandbagging is silly, as for procrastibagging, I don't think we do it intentionally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jab383 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 20 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Nice so you tell the moderator to moderate, Question: do you see my score in the rankings yes or no ? Like my example it would be sufficient. Do you spot the error in CN's example screenshot ? CN's example was done with 'balanced power' in windows rather than the 'performance power' setting. The CPU has speedstepped down to idle at 1600 and doesn't show the clock speed used in the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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