GTX580 Matrix Extreme OC: first session at Assembly

[Massman]

Gelid GC-Extreme, I think.

 

Tested it with the 990X and it was 10x better than the OCZ Freeze I used to use. Soon re-test with this VGA using Gelid instead of the Freeze/

[Christian Ney]

On my side I use Arctic Silver Ceramique

 

10€ for 22 grams

[splmann]

Thank's Massman for the coldslow bios !!!

 

I still have problems with my Matrix . I can bench now with -130 degree but still some time i get some artefacts. Then i have to warm up the pot to -40 and reboot the system . After this i can go to -130 again .

[SF3D]

On my side I use Arctic Silver Ceramique

 

10€ for 22 grams

 

Don't curse in public forums. That stuff is good for poisoning plants, but never use it with latest VGA's + Ln2

Gelid Extreme is the stuff you need and all the rest is crap.

Freeze / frostbyte is last year stuff now, when we have something better.

 

Thank's Massman for the coldslow bios !!!

 

I still have problems with my Matrix . I can bench now with -130 degree but still some time i get some artefacts. Then i have to warm up the pot to -40 and reboot the system . After this i can go to -130 again .

 

Is this card retail or press sample? If press sample, get retail. Some old cards was not completely final and there might be some issues. Retails have all done 1500+ and I have tested 5 of them.

 

Do you have the firmware updated? If you have constant memory voltage around 2.0V you can go a lot lower in temperature. Use high memory clocks too (1300MHz+)

Constant core voltage is mandatory for lazy benching.

 

If you have those but still get artifacts, your thermal paste cracks and you loose good contact. Then you will not be able to do high clocks and will have artifacts with "low" clocks.

 

My guess is the memory cold issues.

[Christian Ney]

Don't curse in public forums. That stuff is good for poisoning plants, but never use it with latest VGA's + Ln2

Gelid Extreme is the stuff you need and all the rest is crap.

Freeze / frostbyte is last year stuff now, when we have something better.

 

Is Arctic Silver Ceramique so bad for LN2 ?

[splmann]

Don't curse in public forums. That stuff is good for poisoning plants, but never use it with latest VGA's + Ln2

Gelid Extreme is the stuff you need and all the rest is crap.

Freeze / frostbyte is last year stuff now, when we have something better.

 

 

 

Is this card retail or press sample? If press sample, get retail. Some old cards was not completely final and there might be some issues. Retails have all done 1500+ and I have tested 5 of them.

 

Do you have the firmware updated? If you have constant memory voltage around 2.0V you can go a lot lower in temperature. Use high memory clocks too (1300MHz+)

Constant core voltage is mandatory for lazy benching.

 

If you have those but still get artifacts, your thermal paste cracks and you loose good contact. Then you will not be able to do high clocks and will have artifacts with "low" clocks.

 

My guess is the memory cold issues.

 

 

 

 

thanks SF3D !

 

i tested with the firmware 2.0 Volt for the memorys and 1.5 Volt for GPU .

 

I dont have problems with my thermalpaste i cant hear any cracks .

 

But still i have this issue . So its important to go up with the memory 1300+ ?

 

Yes its a Sample not a Retail !

[Hondacity]

Is Arctic Silver Ceramique so bad for LN2 ?

 

simply yes

[Christian Ney]

simply yes

 

any test or arguments, want to understand why it's so wrong, I made some really good run with.

 

Haven't tested without paste or other paste though

[Mean Machine]

any test or arguments, want to understand why it's so wrong, I made some really good run with.

 

Haven't tested without paste or other paste though

 

It freezes way earlier than the good stuff.

[Christian Ney]

It freezes way earlier than the good stuff.

 

Arctic Silver Ceramique is the right stuff

 

I trusted dino

 

I too use Arctic Silver Ceramique for the majority of my subzero runs

 

And Deux too

 

+1 vote for ceramique

 

And sam as well

Edited August 16, 2011 by Christian Ney

[BenchZowner]

[off-topic] The thermal paste argument... well, don't know what to say. I'd like to do some proper tests ( milled CPU IHS, but that would require the help of Intel for example, I don't want to mill the surface of the IHS ) with monitoring of 3 spots ( pot base, CPU in IHS temp, and paste temp ( some excess on the side of the cpu )), but I don't think I can get to that anytime soon.

 

However, I used to use Ceramique always, and had some nice clocks, like 6.5GHz AQ3 with my 3005F 980X, 1400MHz @ GTX 480, 950 @ 5.6GHz+, 5870 @ 1450MHz ).

Now, I can't tell if any of those chips can do better with another thermal paste, they're all dead or sold

[knopflerbruce]

I never had any REAL issues with Ceramique, hell I even used that on my Q6600, and got a gold cup in pifast. Didn't run colder than about -150 though... hehe. Maybe it goes to h*ll at lower temps than I ran it at. If Ceramique was utter trash at those temps I should've noticed...

[Mean Machine]

CPU's seems to be a slightly different matter. Compare Ceramique to Freeze or Gelid GC-Extreme on a GTX 580 and you'll see what I'm on about.

[Hondacity]

[off-topic] The thermal paste argument... well, don't know what to say. I'd like to do some proper tests ( milled CPU IHS, but that would require the help of Intel for example, I don't want to mill the surface of the IHS ) with monitoring of 3 spots ( pot base, CPU in IHS temp, and paste temp ( some excess on the side of the cpu )), but I don't think I can get to that anytime soon.

 

However, I used to use Ceramique always, and had some nice clocks, like 6.5GHz AQ3 with my 3005F 980X, 1400MHz @ GTX 480, 950 @ 5.6GHz+, 5870 @ 1450MHz ).

Now, I can't tell if any of those chips can do better with another thermal paste, they're all dead or sold

 

i was thinking bout your super gt, but i think it could have done better.

[Hondacity]

I trust SF3D over Christian_nay

 

[Leeghoofd]

I trusted dino

 

And Deux too

 

And sam as well

 

EPIC FAIL X3 and I thought you were smart Ceramique isn't bad if applied properly, the other ones listed are just better on GPUs...

[Christian Ney]

EPIC FAIL X3 and I thought you were smart Ceramique isn't bad if applied properly, the other ones listed are just better on GPUs...

 

rofl

[TaPaKaH]

that was an old post when I didn't know that other pastes exist

now I'm on Gelid

[Massman]

I trust SF3D over Christian_nay

 

 

HOLY SHIIIIIIITTT !!

 

US resident trusts SF3D??!!

 

First credit crunch, Japan disaster, UK riots and now this. Wtf is going on with this world ...

[Hondacity]

lol i never heard of issues with US and SF3D

 

i don't really care bout issues. you guys can have all the issues in the world

 

im all in for overclocking

[Deux]

Yeah... that's an old post, I haven't used ceramique for anything colder than single stage runs in months

 

Also, tried one retail matrix, 1565/1300 through 11 @1.56v, card was definitely tougher to bench than my CU though.

[dumo]

You can request a sample here...http://www.chomerics.com/products/Thermal_Grease_650_660.htm

[SF3D]

I tested some new CPU for 3Dmark11. It is ok.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2200130_sf3d_3dmark11___performance_4x_geforce_gtx_580_23316_marks?recalculate=true

 

This was quick full run, but the cpu can do 6300 on this test. Now I need to add some VGA clocks.

I would be happy If I could hit more than 1200MHz

[Massman]

Still need to upload the "haters gonna hate" video that fits with that score .

 

Nice start!

[Hondacity]

there you go

 

x58 for multi card