K404 Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Yea, my SB does x55 multi, but only 5400MHz for single-threaded stuff. Are the 3930K chips really OCing better than the 3960X? I'd imagine that Andre alone can bin enough X chips to make up for fewer people buying them Could the cache be holding back MHz? Quote
TaPaKaH Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 if even Massman can do it, I think Andre can as well, given his budgets and access to hardware .. we haven't yet seen any 'new' scores from ASUS ROG dept don't think that cache is holding it back (2500K are not usually better than 2600K) Quote
Hiwa Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Yea, my SB does x55 multi, but only 5400MHz for single-threaded stuff. Are the 3930K chips really OCing better than the 3960X? I'd imagine that Andre alone can bin enough X chips to make up for fewer people buying them Could the cache be holding back MHz? it's only http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26437/nice%20ass.jpg factor, if u have it nice u find good chip Quote
thebanik Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 it's only http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26437/nice%20ass.jpg'>http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26437/nice%20ass.jpg factor, if u have it nice u find good chip You find Andres' http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26437/nice%20ass.jpg nice???? Quote
K404 Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 Well, at the moment, there are undeniably more nice 30K chips than 60X. I do expect it to be partly down to numbers tested though.... which would you rather buy if the difference is so tiny and the price difference so big? Quote
Massman Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 I don't see any statistical indication that cache would be the limiting factor. Or, at least, that lower cache would yield higher OC results in some way. That 3930K 'seems' better is just down to sample test size. And that's just down to pricing: who cares about a $1000 X if you can buy a $550 K that has similar performance and similar overclocking capabilities. Quote
Massman Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 if even Massman can do it, I think Andre can as well, given his budgets and access to hardware .. we haven't yet seen any 'new' scores from ASUS ROG dept don't think that cache is holding it back (2500K are not usually better than 2600K) Two words: "Ivy Bridge". Quote
TaPaKaH Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 they're not yet legal, even in the manlove league Quote
[DRACO] Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 By the way, if someone wants some binning advise: At a certain moment, we were hitting a rough patch in our session as we were only hitting 52-54x for 10-15 chips straight. Then I picked two from the bunch based on the serial number and both of them were 57x chips. The first 57x of that batch had 152x as end of the serial and from the pack I selected 143x and 141x (those were 57x). The batch of SB-E doesn't mean that much, but if you know the serial number of a good clocking one, pick one that is close to that. It's not a 100% certainty, but it feels like there's at least a higher chance on hitting a good one. I saw the same with 2600K, by the way, so it's not just these 3930Ks. Hello Brother, 142x or 143x When you say referred to the X? is a number anyone? Example S / N XXXXXXXXX142X? Example S / N XXXXXXXXX143? Which of the 2 would be correct? forgive but sometimes when you switch to another language and sometimes changing the words are not understood as they should. regards Quote
Massman Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 Like: S / N XXXXXXXXX142X But it's just for this batch, not a general rule ... Quote
subaruwrc Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Hello there ! need one of thos x54 x55 x56 chips man ! Quote
Asmola Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 So, how those worked under ln2? Any +5,8GHz chips? Quote
sember Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Yeah would be nice to see what they can actually do in 3D Quote
Massman Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 I'm now retesting the 57x chips at home and they are reacting quite differently. Same platform as I used in Tones office, so something else is going on. Quote
Hiwa Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Yeah would be nice to see what they can actually do in 3D vantage cpu test and max validation difference is 10 to 20MHz max in my tests. Quote
Viss Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) 6c/12t Hiwa? For me with these chips HT on/off and/or disabling cores makes rather big difference. Second 57x chip from another batch i found yesterday: Too hot under SS to do 56x HT enabled but does reset at 57x. Edited February 7, 2012 by Viss Quote
SoF Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Hope we will see some chips with CB(B) at -90 or lower - sounds like cascade might be a good choice for some CPUs... Quote
Hiwa Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 in my tests yes my cpu can do 5540 and do vantage cpu test at 5520 same with all SB and SBE chips i ever tested, what about ur +5900 cpu viss? Quote
Massman Posted February 7, 2012 Author Posted February 7, 2012 Yeah, that's how SB and SBE usually works. Optimal temp range may vary from 2c2t to 6c12t, though. Viss: did you test C2 with older BIOS versions? I'm getting the feeling the one I'm using right now isn't cooperating very well with C2. Quote
Viss Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) in my tests yes my cpu can do 5540 and do vantage cpu test at 5520 same with all SB and SBE chips i ever tested, what about ur +5900 cpu viss? Less for now I did not use over 1.60v yet though. I think it wil max out at +/- 5800mhz Vantage CPU 6c/12t at 1.65v or so. 4c/8t does 5900mhz 06 CPU test at 1.60v. Viss: did you test C2 with older BIOS versions? I'm getting the feeling the one I'm using right now isn't cooperating very well with C2. 1101 is the only bios i have tested so far, next time i wil try older one as wel. Edited February 7, 2012 by Viss Quote
Asmola Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 vantage cpu test and max validation difference is 10 to 20MHz max in my tests. My CPU does 2 core test's at 5,8 GHz but Vantage etc 6c/12t test's only 5,75GHz so it seems that all cpu's wont scale that well. Or it also might be that cpu needs lower temps, but if cpu is unable to handle any colder, you cant do anything about it.. Quote
0skill Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 not as crappy as my one my 3960X can do 5555 2 and 3 cores and with 4cores 5400 5cores 5350 and 6cores 5250 to 5300 depending on benchmark Quote
Massman Posted February 8, 2012 Author Posted February 8, 2012 As I mentioned to some people, I'm re-trying the method on the 57x chips and it seems that C2 is behaving very different from C1. A specific chip is rebooting perfectly to 57x multiplier, but won't reach over 5250 in OS. The XPower-II is giving more 'accurate' results from my experience, but I need to cross-check more chips to be certain. To be updated! (PS: no chips have been send from Tones, so only crushed hopes! ) Quote
TaPaKaH Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Have you tried the x57 chips on any other board ? Quote
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