eva2000 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 As posted a handful of times already: there are a couple of bugs that affect the hardware boint rankings, plus the complaints are all over the place. Some people think it's all about the money now, and some think $2000 rigs have no future here... it's obvious there are alot of misunderstandings - both of these statements can't be right! Actually both statements can be right as you have to understand not everyone is viewing the new emerging situation from one person/hwbot folks perspective but that of their own. That's why throughout all 3 revisions of hwbot, there have been folks pro-change and folks against the changes. Definitions of effort and amount of money will differ for everyone participating in hwbot. For folks use to LN2/DI and volt modding they'll see that they put alot of effort, time and money to achieve their results. For folks on air/water who push their systems to the limits of their system cooling limitations, find tweaks and test their systems will see that they also put in alot of effort, time and money. It's all relative. Now the new rev3 has rubbed both kinds of folks the wrong way. 1. Folks on LN2/DI and with more money or saved the asses off for multi-gpu setups in hopes of achieving higher scores now in rev3 see that effort (saving money) and benching in multi-gpu configs are not being rewarding enough relative to older gen hardware which is more popular. 2. Folks on air/water in some categories are only getting minor points 0.1 for their efforts as all the points are now sourced in popular hardware categories which have folks on DI/LN2 or volt modding occupying the >0.1 pt rewarding spots. These folks for reasons financially or otherwise can't afford to modify/volt mod and kill their hardware to compete in the more popular hardware categories. So as you see both statements can be correct as it's all relative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 There was an important bug in hardware points, a complete recalculation is now in progress. I need to go to a family reunion now, MM will make newspost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 HW points distribution after fix: *********** Testing 1 hw rank 1/1: 1.5 *********** Testing 2 hw rank 1/2: 1.5 hw rank 2/2: 0.1 *********** Testing 3 hw rank 1/3: 1.5 hw rank 2/3: 0.1 hw rank 3/3: 0.1 *********** Testing 4 hw rank 1/4: 1.5 hw rank 2/4: 1.2 hw rank 3/4: 0.1 hw rank 4/4: 0.1 *********** Testing 5 hw rank 1/5: 1.5 hw rank 2/5: 1.2 hw rank 3/5: 0.1 hw rank 4/5: 0.1 hw rank 5/5: 0.1 *********** Testing 6 hw rank 1/6: 1.5 hw rank 2/6: 1.2 hw rank 3/6: 0.9 hw rank 4/6: 0.1 hw rank 5/6: 0.1 hw rank 6/6: 0.1 *********** Testing 7 hw rank 1/7: 1.5 hw rank 2/7: 1.2 hw rank 3/7: 0.9 hw rank 4/7: 0.1 hw rank 5/7: 0.1 hw rank 6/7: 0.1 hw rank 7/7: 0.1 *********** Testing 8 hw rank 1/8: 1.5 hw rank 2/8: 1.2 hw rank 3/8: 0.9 hw rank 4/8: 0.6 hw rank 5/8: 0.1 hw rank 6/8: 0.1 hw rank 7/8: 0.1 hw rank 8/8: 0.1 *********** Testing 9 hw rank 1/9: 1.556 hw rank 2/9: 1.2 hw rank 3/9: 0.9 hw rank 4/9: 0.6 hw rank 5/9: 0.1 hw rank 6/9: 0.1 hw rank 7/9: 0.1 hw rank 8/9: 0.1 hw rank 9/9: 0.1 *********** Testing 10 hw rank 1/10: 1.6 hw rank 2/10: 1.2 hw rank 3/10: 0.9 hw rank 4/10: 0.6 hw rank 5/10: 0.3 hw rank 6/10: 0.1 hw rank 7/10: 0.1 hw rank 8/10: 0.1 hw rank 9/10: 0.1 hw rank 10/10: 0.1 *********** Testing 11 hw rank 1/11: 1.8 hw rank 2/11: 1.2 hw rank 3/11: 0.9 hw rank 4/11: 0.6 hw rank 5/11: 0.3 hw rank 6/11: 0.1 hw rank 7/11: 0.1 hw rank 8/11: 0.1 hw rank 9/11: 0.1 hw rank 10/11: 0.1 hw rank 11/11: 0.1 *********** Testing 20 hw rank 1/20: 3.6 hw rank 2/20: 2.56 hw rank 3/20: 1.89 hw rank 4/20: 1.44 hw rank 5/20: 1.1 hw rank 6/20: 0.8 hw rank 7/20: 0.6 hw rank 8/20: 0.4 hw rank 9/20: 0.2 hw rank 10/20: 0.1 hw rank 11/20: 0.1 hw rank 12/20: 0.1 hw rank 13/20: 0.1 hw rank 14/20: 0.1 hw rank 15/20: 0.1 hw rank 16/20: 0.1 hw rank 17/20: 0.1 hw rank 18/20: 0.1 hw rank 19/20: 0.1 hw rank 20/20: 0.1 *********** Testing 30 hw rank 1/30: 5.6 hw rank 2/30: 4.16 hw rank 3/30: 3.24 hw rank 4/30: 2.64 hw rank 5/30: 2.2 hw rank 6/30: 1.8 hw rank 7/30: 1.6 hw rank 8/30: 1.4 hw rank 9/30: 1.2 hw rank 10/30: 1 hw rank 11/30: 0.8 hw rank 12/30: 0.6 hw rank 13/30: 0.4 hw rank 14/30: 0.2 hw rank 15/30: 0.1 hw rank 16/30: 0.1 hw rank 17/30: 0.1 hw rank 18/30: 0.1 hw rank 19/30: 0.1 hw rank 20/30: 0.1 hw rank 21/30: 0.1 hw rank 22/30: 0.1 hw rank 23/30: 0.1 hw rank 24/30: 0.1 hw rank 25/30: 0.1 hw rank 26/30: 0.1 hw rank 27/30: 0.1 hw rank 28/30: 0.1 hw rank 29/30: 0.1 hw rank 30/30: 0.1 *********** Testing 50 hw rank 1/50: 9.6 hw rank 2/50: 7.36 hw rank 3/50: 5.94 hw rank 4/50: 5.04 hw rank 5/50: 4.4 hw rank 6/50: 3.8 hw rank 7/50: 3.6 hw rank 8/50: 3.4 hw rank 9/50: 3.2 hw rank 10/50: 3 hw rank 11/50: 2.8 hw rank 12/50: 2.6 hw rank 13/50: 2.4 hw rank 14/50: 2.2 hw rank 15/50: 2 hw rank 16/50: 1.8 hw rank 17/50: 1.6 hw rank 18/50: 1.4 hw rank 19/50: 1.2 hw rank 20/50: 1 hw rank 21/50: 0.8 hw rank 22/50: 0.6 hw rank 23/50: 0.4 hw rank 24/50: 0.2 hw rank 25/50: 0.1 hw rank 26/50: 0.1 hw rank 27/50: 0.1 hw rank 28/50: 0.1 hw rank 29/50: 0.1 hw rank 30/50: 0.1 hw rank 31/50: 0.1 hw rank 32/50: 0.1 hw rank 33/50: 0.1 hw rank 34/50: 0.1 hw rank 35/50: 0.1 hw rank 36/50: 0.1 hw rank 37/50: 0.1 hw rank 38/50: 0.1 hw rank 39/50: 0.1 hw rank 40/50: 0.1 hw rank 41/50: 0.1 hw rank 42/50: 0.1 hw rank 43/50: 0.1 hw rank 44/50: 0.1 hw rank 45/50: 0.1 hw rank 46/50: 0.1 hw rank 47/50: 0.1 hw rank 48/50: 0.1 hw rank 49/50: 0.1 hw rank 50/50: 0.1 *********** Testing 100 hw rank 1/100: 19.6 hw rank 2/100: 15.36 hw rank 3/100: 12.69 hw rank 4/100: 11.04 hw rank 5/100: 9.9 hw rank 6/100: 8.8 hw rank 7/100: 8.6 hw rank 8/100: 8.4 hw rank 9/100: 8.2 hw rank 10/100: 8 hw rank 11/100: 7.8 hw rank 12/100: 7.6 hw rank 13/100: 7.4 hw rank 14/100: 7.2 hw rank 15/100: 7 hw rank 16/100: 6.8 hw rank 17/100: 6.6 hw rank 18/100: 6.4 hw rank 19/100: 6.2 hw rank 20/100: 6 hw rank 21/100: 5.8 hw rank 22/100: 5.6 hw rank 23/100: 5.4 hw rank 24/100: 5.2 hw rank 25/100: 5 hw rank 26/100: 4.8 hw rank 27/100: 4.6 hw rank 28/100: 4.4 hw rank 29/100: 4.2 hw rank 30/100: 4 hw rank 31/100: 3.8 hw rank 32/100: 3.6 hw rank 33/100: 3.4 hw rank 34/100: 3.2 hw rank 35/100: 3 hw rank 36/100: 2.8 hw rank 37/100: 2.6 hw rank 38/100: 2.4 hw rank 39/100: 2.2 hw rank 40/100: 2 hw rank 41/100: 1.8 hw rank 42/100: 1.6 hw rank 43/100: 1.4 hw rank 44/100: 1.2 hw rank 45/100: 1 hw rank 46/100: 0.8 hw rank 47/100: 0.6 hw rank 48/100: 0.4 hw rank 49/100: 0.2 hw rank 50/100: 0.1 hw rank 51/100: 0.1 hw rank 52/100: 0.1 hw rank 53/100: 0.1 hw rank 54/100: 0.1 hw rank 55/100: 0.1 hw rank 56/100: 0.1 hw rank 57/100: 0.1 hw rank 58/100: 0.1 hw rank 59/100: 0.1 hw rank 60/100: 0.1 hw rank 61/100: 0.1 hw rank 62/100: 0.1 hw rank 63/100: 0.1 hw rank 64/100: 0.1 hw rank 65/100: 0.1 hw rank 66/100: 0.1 hw rank 67/100: 0.1 hw rank 68/100: 0.1 hw rank 69/100: 0.1 hw rank 70/100: 0.1 hw rank 71/100: 0.1 hw rank 72/100: 0.1 hw rank 73/100: 0.1 hw rank 74/100: 0.1 hw rank 75/100: 0.1 hw rank 76/100: 0.1 hw rank 77/100: 0.1 hw rank 78/100: 0.1 hw rank 79/100: 0.1 hw rank 80/100: 0.1 hw rank 81/100: 0.1 hw rank 82/100: 0.1 hw rank 83/100: 0.1 hw rank 84/100: 0.1 hw rank 85/100: 0.1 hw rank 86/100: 0.1 hw rank 87/100: 0.1 hw rank 88/100: 0.1 hw rank 89/100: 0.1 hw rank 90/100: 0.1 hw rank 91/100: 0.1 hw rank 92/100: 0.1 hw rank 93/100: 0.1 hw rank 94/100: 0.1 hw rank 95/100: 0.1 hw rank 96/100: 0.1 hw rank 97/100: 0.1 hw rank 98/100: 0.1 hw rank 99/100: 0.1 hw rank 100/100: 0.1 *********** Testing 400 hw rank 1/400: 49.75 hw rank 2/400: 39.6 hw rank 3/400: 33.244 hw rank 4/400: 29.4 hw rank 5/400: 26.812 hw rank 6/400: 24.25 hw rank 7/400: 24.125 hw rank 8/400: 24 hw rank 9/400: 23.875 hw rank 10/400: 23.75 hw rank 11/400: 23.625 hw rank 12/400: 23.5 hw rank 13/400: 23.375 hw rank 14/400: 23.25 hw rank 15/400: 23.125 hw rank 16/400: 23 hw rank 17/400: 22.875 hw rank 18/400: 22.75 hw rank 19/400: 22.625 hw rank 20/400: 22.5 hw rank 21/400: 22.375 hw rank 22/400: 22.25 hw rank 23/400: 22.125 hw rank 24/400: 22 hw rank 25/400: 21.875 hw rank 26/400: 21.75 hw rank 27/400: 21.625 hw rank 28/400: 21.5 hw rank 29/400: 21.375 hw rank 30/400: 21.25 hw rank 31/400: 21.125 hw rank 32/400: 21 hw rank 33/400: 20.875 hw rank 34/400: 20.75 hw rank 35/400: 20.625 hw rank 36/400: 20.5 hw rank 37/400: 20.375 hw rank 38/400: 20.25 hw rank 39/400: 20.125 hw rank 40/400: 20 hw rank 41/400: 19.875 hw rank 42/400: 19.75 hw rank 43/400: 19.625 hw rank 44/400: 19.5 hw rank 45/400: 19.375 hw rank 46/400: 19.25 hw rank 47/400: 19.125 hw rank 48/400: 19 hw rank 49/400: 18.875 hw rank 50/400: 18.75 hw rank 51/400: 18.625 hw rank 52/400: 18.5 hw rank 53/400: 18.375 hw rank 54/400: 18.25 hw rank 55/400: 18.125 hw rank 56/400: 18 hw rank 57/400: 17.875 hw rank 58/400: 17.75 hw rank 59/400: 17.625 hw rank 60/400: 17.5 hw rank 61/400: 17.375 hw rank 62/400: 17.25 hw rank 63/400: 17.125 hw rank 64/400: 17 hw rank 65/400: 16.875 hw rank 66/400: 16.75 hw rank 67/400: 16.625 hw rank 68/400: 16.5 hw rank 69/400: 16.375 hw rank 70/400: 16.25 hw rank 71/400: 16.125 hw rank 72/400: 16 hw rank 73/400: 15.875 hw rank 74/400: 15.75 hw rank 75/400: 15.625 hw rank 76/400: 15.5 hw rank 77/400: 15.375 hw rank 78/400: 15.25 hw rank 79/400: 15.125 hw rank 80/400: 15 hw rank 81/400: 14.875 hw rank 82/400: 14.75 hw rank 83/400: 14.625 hw rank 84/400: 14.5 hw rank 85/400: 14.375 hw rank 86/400: 14.25 hw rank 87/400: 14.125 hw rank 88/400: 14 hw rank 89/400: 13.875 hw rank 90/400: 13.75 hw rank 91/400: 13.625 hw rank 92/400: 13.5 hw rank 93/400: 13.375 hw rank 94/400: 13.25 hw rank 95/400: 13.125 hw rank 96/400: 13 hw rank 97/400: 12.875 hw rank 98/400: 12.75 hw rank 99/400: 12.625 hw rank 100/400: 12.5 hw rank 101/400: 12.375 hw rank 102/400: 12.25 hw rank 103/400: 12.125 hw rank 104/400: 12 hw rank 105/400: 11.875 hw rank 106/400: 11.75 hw rank 107/400: 11.625 hw rank 108/400: 11.5 hw rank 109/400: 11.375 hw rank 110/400: 11.25 hw rank 111/400: 11.125 hw rank 112/400: 11 hw rank 113/400: 10.875 hw rank 114/400: 10.75 hw rank 115/400: 10.625 hw rank 116/400: 10.5 hw rank 117/400: 10.375 hw rank 118/400: 10.25 hw rank 119/400: 10.125 hw rank 120/400: 10 hw rank 121/400: 9.875 hw rank 122/400: 9.75 hw rank 123/400: 9.625 hw rank 124/400: 9.5 hw rank 125/400: 9.375 hw rank 126/400: 9.25 hw rank 127/400: 9.125 hw rank 128/400: 9 hw rank 129/400: 8.875 hw rank 130/400: 8.75 hw rank 131/400: 8.625 hw rank 132/400: 8.5 hw rank 133/400: 8.375 hw rank 134/400: 8.25 hw rank 135/400: 8.125 hw rank 136/400: 8 hw rank 137/400: 7.875 hw rank 138/400: 7.75 hw rank 139/400: 7.625 hw rank 140/400: 7.5 hw rank 141/400: 7.375 hw rank 142/400: 7.25 hw rank 143/400: 7.125 hw rank 144/400: 7 hw rank 145/400: 6.875 hw rank 146/400: 6.75 hw rank 147/400: 6.625 hw rank 148/400: 6.5 hw rank 149/400: 6.375 hw rank 150/400: 6.25 hw rank 151/400: 6.125 hw rank 152/400: 6 hw rank 153/400: 5.875 hw rank 154/400: 5.75 hw rank 155/400: 5.625 hw rank 156/400: 5.5 hw rank 157/400: 5.375 hw rank 158/400: 5.25 hw rank 159/400: 5.125 hw rank 160/400: 5 hw rank 161/400: 4.875 hw rank 162/400: 4.75 hw rank 163/400: 4.625 hw rank 164/400: 4.5 hw rank 165/400: 4.375 hw rank 166/400: 4.25 hw rank 167/400: 4.125 hw rank 168/400: 4 hw rank 169/400: 3.875 hw rank 170/400: 3.75 hw rank 171/400: 3.625 hw rank 172/400: 3.5 hw rank 173/400: 3.375 hw rank 174/400: 3.25 hw rank 175/400: 3.125 hw rank 176/400: 3 hw rank 177/400: 2.875 hw rank 178/400: 2.75 hw rank 179/400: 2.625 hw rank 180/400: 2.5 hw rank 181/400: 2.375 hw rank 182/400: 2.25 hw rank 183/400: 2.125 hw rank 184/400: 2 hw rank 185/400: 1.875 hw rank 186/400: 1.75 hw rank 187/400: 1.625 hw rank 188/400: 1.5 hw rank 189/400: 1.375 hw rank 190/400: 1.25 hw rank 191/400: 1.125 hw rank 192/400: 1 hw rank 193/400: 0.875 hw rank 194/400: 0.75 hw rank 195/400: 0.625 hw rank 196/400: 0.5 hw rank 197/400: 0.375 hw rank 198/400: 0.25 hw rank 199/400: 0.125 hw rank 200/400: 0.1 hw rank 201/400: 0.1 hw rank 202/400: 0.1 hw rank 203/400: 0.1 hw rank 204/400: 0.1 hw rank 205/400: 0.1 hw rank 206/400: 0.1 hw rank 207/400: 0.1 hw rank 208/400: 0.1 hw rank 209/400: 0.1 hw rank 210/400: 0.1 hw rank 211/400: 0.1 hw rank 212/400: 0.1 hw rank 213/400: 0.1 hw rank 214/400: 0.1 hw rank 215/400: 0.1 hw rank 216/400: 0.1 hw rank 217/400: 0.1 hw rank 218/400: 0.1 hw rank 219/400: 0.1 hw rank 220/400: 0.1 hw rank 221/400: 0.1 hw rank 222/400: 0.1 hw rank 223/400: 0.1 hw rank 224/400: 0.1 hw rank 225/400: 0.1 hw rank 226/400: 0.1 hw rank 227/400: 0.1 hw rank 228/400: 0.1 hw rank 229/400: 0.1 hw rank 230/400: 0.1 hw rank 231/400: 0.1 hw rank 232/400: 0.1 hw rank 233/400: 0.1 hw rank 234/400: 0.1 hw rank 235/400: 0.1 hw rank 236/400: 0.1 hw rank 237/400: 0.1 hw rank 238/400: 0.1 hw rank 239/400: 0.1 hw rank 240/400: 0.1 hw rank 241/400: 0.1 hw rank 242/400: 0.1 hw rank 243/400: 0.1 hw rank 244/400: 0.1 hw rank 245/400: 0.1 hw rank 246/400: 0.1 hw rank 247/400: 0.1 hw rank 248/400: 0.1 hw rank 249/400: 0.1 hw rank 250/400: 0.1 hw rank 251/400: 0.1 hw rank 252/400: 0.1 hw rank 253/400: 0.1 hw rank 254/400: 0.1 hw rank 255/400: 0.1 hw rank 256/400: 0.1 hw rank 257/400: 0.1 hw rank 258/400: 0.1 hw rank 259/400: 0.1 hw rank 260/400: 0.1 hw rank 261/400: 0.1 hw rank 262/400: 0.1 hw rank 263/400: 0.1 hw rank 264/400: 0.1 hw rank 265/400: 0.1 hw rank 266/400: 0.1 hw rank 267/400: 0.1 hw rank 268/400: 0.1 hw rank 269/400: 0.1 hw rank 270/400: 0.1 hw rank 271/400: 0.1 hw rank 272/400: 0.1 hw rank 273/400: 0.1 hw rank 274/400: 0.1 hw rank 275/400: 0.1 hw rank 276/400: 0.1 hw rank 277/400: 0.1 hw rank 278/400: 0.1 hw rank 279/400: 0.1 hw rank 280/400: 0.1 hw rank 281/400: 0.1 hw rank 282/400: 0.1 hw rank 283/400: 0.1 hw rank 284/400: 0.1 hw rank 285/400: 0.1 hw rank 286/400: 0.1 hw rank 287/400: 0.1 hw rank 288/400: 0.1 hw rank 289/400: 0.1 hw rank 290/400: 0.1 hw rank 291/400: 0.1 hw rank 292/400: 0.1 hw rank 293/400: 0.1 hw rank 294/400: 0.1 hw rank 295/400: 0.1 hw rank 296/400: 0.1 hw rank 297/400: 0.1 hw rank 298/400: 0.1 hw rank 299/400: 0.1 hw rank 300/400: 0.1 hw rank 301/400: 0.1 hw rank 302/400: 0.1 hw rank 303/400: 0.1 hw rank 304/400: 0.1 hw rank 305/400: 0.1 hw rank 306/400: 0.1 hw rank 307/400: 0.1 hw rank 308/400: 0.1 hw rank 309/400: 0.1 hw rank 310/400: 0.1 hw rank 311/400: 0.1 hw rank 312/400: 0.1 hw rank 313/400: 0.1 hw rank 314/400: 0.1 hw rank 315/400: 0.1 hw rank 316/400: 0.1 hw rank 317/400: 0.1 hw rank 318/400: 0.1 hw rank 319/400: 0.1 hw rank 320/400: 0.1 hw rank 321/400: 0.1 hw rank 322/400: 0.1 hw rank 323/400: 0.1 hw rank 324/400: 0.1 hw rank 325/400: 0.1 hw rank 326/400: 0.1 hw rank 327/400: 0.1 hw rank 328/400: 0.1 hw rank 329/400: 0.1 hw rank 330/400: 0.1 hw rank 331/400: 0.1 hw rank 332/400: 0.1 hw rank 333/400: 0.1 hw rank 334/400: 0.1 hw rank 335/400: 0.1 hw rank 336/400: 0.1 hw rank 337/400: 0.1 hw rank 338/400: 0.1 hw rank 339/400: 0.1 hw rank 340/400: 0.1 hw rank 341/400: 0.1 hw rank 342/400: 0.1 hw rank 343/400: 0.1 hw rank 344/400: 0.1 hw rank 345/400: 0.1 hw rank 346/400: 0.1 hw rank 347/400: 0.1 hw rank 348/400: 0.1 hw rank 349/400: 0.1 hw rank 350/400: 0.1 hw rank 351/400: 0.1 hw rank 352/400: 0.1 hw rank 353/400: 0.1 hw rank 354/400: 0.1 hw rank 355/400: 0.1 hw rank 356/400: 0.1 hw rank 357/400: 0.1 hw rank 358/400: 0.1 hw rank 359/400: 0.1 hw rank 360/400: 0.1 hw rank 361/400: 0.1 hw rank 362/400: 0.1 hw rank 363/400: 0.1 hw rank 364/400: 0.1 hw rank 365/400: 0.1 hw rank 366/400: 0.1 hw rank 367/400: 0.1 hw rank 368/400: 0.1 hw rank 369/400: 0.1 hw rank 370/400: 0.1 hw rank 371/400: 0.1 hw rank 372/400: 0.1 hw rank 373/400: 0.1 hw rank 374/400: 0.1 hw rank 375/400: 0.1 hw rank 376/400: 0.1 hw rank 377/400: 0.1 hw rank 378/400: 0.1 hw rank 379/400: 0.1 hw rank 380/400: 0.1 hw rank 381/400: 0.1 hw rank 382/400: 0.1 hw rank 383/400: 0.1 hw rank 384/400: 0.1 hw rank 385/400: 0.1 hw rank 386/400: 0.1 hw rank 387/400: 0.1 hw rank 388/400: 0.1 hw rank 389/400: 0.1 hw rank 390/400: 0.1 hw rank 391/400: 0.1 hw rank 392/400: 0.1 hw rank 393/400: 0.1 hw rank 394/400: 0.1 hw rank 395/400: 0.1 hw rank 396/400: 0.1 hw rank 397/400: 0.1 hw rank 398/400: 0.1 hw rank 399/400: 0.1 hw rank 400/400: 0.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm asking again since noone answered me. Will be the site optimized for low resolutions like 1024x768? It has been designed for 1024x768. Which specific page is giving you problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterStoba Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Nice to see the bugs are being sorted out quickly. From what I understand that points distribution is better than the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eva2000 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hope the bug fix in point calculation helps... last 14 days of submissions. You have to ask yourself was the 0.1pts worth the time and effort ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) HW points distribution after fix: *********** Testing 1 hw rank 1/1: 1.5 *********** Testing 2 hw rank 1/2: 1.5 hw rank 2/2: 0.1 *********** Testing 3 hw rank 1/3: 1.5 hw rank 2/3: 0.1 hw rank 3/3: 0.1 *********** Testing 4 hw rank 1/4: 1.5 hw rank 2/4: 1.2 hw rank 3/4: 0.1 hw rank 4/4: 0.1 *********** Testing 5 hw rank 1/5: 1.5 hw rank 2/5: 1.2 hw rank 3/5: 0.1 hw rank 4/5: 0.1 hw rank 5/5: 0.1 *********** Testing 6 hw rank 1/6: 1.5 hw rank 2/6: 1.2 hw rank 3/6: 0.9 hw rank 4/6: 0.1 hw rank 5/6: 0.1 hw rank 6/6: 0.1 *********** Testing 5 hw rank 1/5: 1.5 hw rank 2/5: 1.2 hw rank 3/5: 0.1 hw rank 4/5: 0.1 hw rank 5/5: 0.1 Why everywhere only 0.1? Why not going 1.5 - 1.2 - 0.9 - 0.6 - 0.1 The step from 1.2 to 0.1 is just to hard and fast Edited January 3, 2010 by der8auer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskaliber Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 It has been designed for 1024x768. Which specific page is giving you problems? 1. The site is to wide, so i need to roll it left-right which is quite annoying. 2. Many things cover overclockers league a bit or other items in right sidebar. For example: hwbot january oc challage picture, table in 'benchmarks' and so on. 3. Team names in 'members rankings' are cut, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Being third to last should gain 0.9 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentj Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Good job for this bug correction. I think less people will complain about the 0.1pts problem (which still here). But I think a 60% of rewarded scores in little categories (with decrease by the number of submissions) is a solution to the matter of a lot of people. Edited January 1, 2010 by Quentj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Dropz Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 yeah that 0.1pts is BS it should be like 1.5 1.3 1.1 1 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.6 . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eva2000 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 1. The site is to wide, so i need to roll it left-right which is quite annoying. 2. Many things cover overclockers league a bit or other items in right sidebar. For example: hwbot january oc challage picture, table in 'benchmarks' and so on. 3. Team names in 'members rankings' are cut, etc. maybe post a screenshot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egm_xt Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I have to acknowledge that it takes courage to make such a drastic change. As it is, and at first contact, I personally preffered much more the old version (rev.2) and would opt for smaller changes addressing each issue at a time: number of GPU/CPU, unpopular/popular hardware, achievements changes, etc... As people say: If it ain´t broke don´t fix it. Or as we say in Brazil about soccer teams: ("Nao se mexe em time que está ganhando") something like: "You do not change if the team is winning". (after all nobody can ever know for sure all the reasons why this is happening... ). Sometimes changes are needed but the consequences are hard to foresee. Please remember that to have winners and 1st places we need loosers and 2nd places. Since it is all relative depending on how high you set the bar there will be more or less people willing to take part. There is no way to tell what is going to happen in the long run but please understand that it is normal for people to feel bad if they were playing with one set of rules and it suffers a big change - specially with backwards effects reducing (sometimes very hard earned) points. But as you say there are bugs to be fixed and to be more practical I will add some numbers to one bug I belive has already been spotted and really left me with a strange feeling. For me it is a very serious one based on the fact that it can change significantly the scores of many people who have less points - lets say less than 300 - and these are the vast majority of the people at Hwbot and the ones that allow the first ones to have significance in their ranking. - results for cpuz with 5 participants (Cyrix M-II 300) 1st 1.8 points 2nd 0.3 points 3rd 0.2 points 4th 0.1 points 5th 0.1 points More than 50% received more than 0.1. The 1st received 6 times more than 2nd (1.8 to 0.3) and this looks strange - results for cpuz with 31 participants (Pentium 3 celeron 900) 1st 5.8 points 2nd 4.5 points 3rd 3.3 points 4th 2.5 points 5th 1.8 points 6th 1.3 points 7th 1.1 points 8th 1.0 points 9th 0.9 points 10th 0.7 points 11th 0.1 points 12th 0.1 points . . 31st 0.1 points less than 30% received more than 0.1 points (the new "zero") the 1st to second ratio is 1.29 (instead of 6 like above) but the drop from the 10th to the 11th is from 0.7 to 0.1 - 7x, also strange Quickly looking around I found this to be consistent. For very few results we are close to 50% awarded and there is too much difference between 1st and 2nd (totaly out of proportion with the difference between 2nd to 3rd). For more results the difference between 1st and 2nd looks "normal" but the difference between the last score with more than 0.1 and the first 0.1 score is now out of expected proportion. I may have looked at a few bugged results but it does not seem so. Anyway this was a huge undertaking and I hope that with small changes from now on you can make rev.3 as fun to play or better than rev.2. Have a nice 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Being third to last should gain 0.9 points? In my opinion - yes. But it's not only at 5er ranking. I think the points should be more balanced. Going down slowly and not directly to 0,1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivabel Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi In Harware Master I was 12° (1235 points) ,now i am 78°(592 points?) I dont understand this REV3.I hope all points will come back soon. Happy new year all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartmasta Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I respect the admins for working hard on rev 3 but you can't just say, we thought about this and no one used the test server so we're not changing it, to bad for you people here are giving good ideas on how to improve rev 3 and you just sit and say, it's fine, learn to bench EDIT: I just noticed that the system has been tweaked a bit. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egm_xt Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Thanks for taking care of this issue so quickly! Actually while I was having a hard time to write the post about it you were working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartmasta Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 sorry for the double post but what I still think is a problem is how theres a huge difference in points between something and 0.1 for example 9600 gt 1GB in 3d vantage 1.5 1.2 0.1 0.1 0.1 I think it should be more like 1.5 1.2 0.7 0.3 0.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven86 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Nice refresh , hope you guys sort all the little bugs out soon Is it possible to add a click button that allows me to see current world records from a specific platform? Being AMD or Intel in all benches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Are the HWBoints somehow buggy or did you guys changed anything? Me and my team now have some more points again without doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam__ Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 as advanced said:did something change? i seem to have gained some hw boints? also, would it be possible to add filtering by number of cores instead of number of sockets in the cpu search? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cowgut Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 hey hwbot and forums look very good now...good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterStoba Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Not quite sure but this appears to be bugged - http://hwbot.org/listResults.do?cpuModelId=2009&applicationId=13&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&limit=100 Coolaler appears twice? Surely that's not right? Also, will the hall of fame ever become more space or spread out, with a bigger font or something? It seems very compact and difficult to browse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Which hall of fame are you referring to? Please link Also please note posts with profanity will be ignored and/or deleted. If you can not voice your concerns without cursing, you will not be listened to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 So RB, what do you think about a slowly decrease of the Points and not going straight down to 0,1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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