thebanik Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 yeah I agree G that it should either be out in the public or not at all, i just dont think its Massman/hwbot responsibility to provide it to contestants Nobody said its Massman/hwbot responsibility to provide it to contestants. But what I/others have said is that its sort of their responsibility to check with MSI about how to get the software in the right hands to keep the playing field fair. Quote
Massman Posted May 29, 2012 Author Posted May 29, 2012 I should be really sad about the 'state of the community' after reading all these posts here, but actually ... I'm quite happy. I wish I could help, But Im on my 2nd strike for sharing what Im not supposed to. IDK how it was linked to me but thanks alot for whoever blew me in for helping them out lol never again. ... and the reason why I'm happy is because some folks actually put their nuts on the line and help out fellow overclockers with this kind of software. In fact, I know of at least 7 special afterburner versions that were used by someone other than the actual owner. Of course, I'm not going to tell who's helping out (not here, not to MSI), but that sharing spirit is pretty cool. In light of a 'fair' competition, I think not having the AB xtreme is one of the smaller issues that is affecting the level of fairness. It's not like it's impossible to compete without it ... it just requires some extra work. As for "afterburner extreme must be open for all" - I understand the community's point of view, but most certainly also MSI's point of view. Quote
Massman Posted May 29, 2012 Author Posted May 29, 2012 Nobody said its Massman/hwbot responsibility to provide it to contestants. But what I/others have said is that its sort of their responsibility to check with MSI about how to get the software in the right hands to keep the playing field fair. I think by now they are blocking mails from my email address containing the words "afterburner", "release to all" and "community needs it". It's not because I don't post in public "hey guys, asked msi again" that I'm not doing it. Quote
thebanik Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 It's not because I don't post in public "hey guys, asked msi again" that I'm not doing it. Thats all I, as a general hwbot user wanted to hear, that the admins have atleast tried, Quote
|ron Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 lets just get clear that i DONT have afterburner unlocked to start with, seriously for everyone complaining you need to take a look at what your saying this is an overclocking competition, meant for the best overclockers in the world to compete against one another, its not meant to be easy, if you cant hardmod your vga and even your board if its required, you need not apply, your services arnt required here, i dont think its msi or hwbots responsibility to provide afterburner unlocked, any version of afterburner can do high clocks, so all you need is vgpu/vpll/vmem right? ok mod it and your problem is solved sure it would be great if msi decided to release afterburner for everyone, but they havnt, so lets just get on with it? MSI organizes a competition, in which I must mod their cards because that fucking software is secret. Then, if I break the card, no warranty is recognized. WTF? You have money to throw out of the window? Please, do it, but don't mess when somebody cares about trying not to destroy everything because of that stupid decision by MSI. You wanna mod everything? Do it, nobody is trying to stop you. You wanna see top competitions to include even soldering abilities? Ok, let's do MOA 2013 with a medium range vga, so that you're not vaporyzing half wage if something goes wrong. @uncle fester: ooooh yess, let's not complain if something could be improved etc... let's not complain if politicians are shit involved with mafia and so on... let's not complain, because if we do, ooohhh poor us, there will be no MOA. Well, I have the habit to try to improve things, not to stay in a corner and accept everything is thrown at me. Quote
Crew pro Posted May 29, 2012 Crew Posted May 29, 2012 haha nteresting, this GPU is chil right, so whos got the datasheet to do mods anyway, seems AB might be the only way to clock this card lol Quote
|ron Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Ok, no need to go further, you're in firewall mode and you simply can't hear our reasons. Oh, don't usi msi control center to oc your cpu, insted do a pin mod on your 3770K (and if it's not possible, let's do some reverse engineering, to prove we are worth that comp), and a fullmod on the mobo, it surely defines you as a pro ocker that can compete in this event. control center is too easy, when you can vmod everything. Oh, another thing: tell a guy who practices another sport what does he think about these rules and the partial release only to a few guys of a tool who helps a lot, and please report his answer. Quote
Splave Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 so back to the compo, when are you Australians throwing down? Take plenty of pics...nothing is more fun then a drunk fester rofl Quote
Crew pro Posted May 29, 2012 Crew Posted May 29, 2012 hm later june the flights are booked for Jono and me, not sure for the other boys, probably around the same time Quote
cyclone Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Guys, don't complain too much! Search for the solution! You are right, many overclockers have copies from others... and so on. I also wanted to obtain my copy of AB Extreme but I surrendered with idiots in polish department... Prolly you went into the wrong door?.. I would try once again. Ask - and it will be given to you: Took me & T0lsty two evenings to get our personal copy of the newest AB extreme these days. Honda, pro +1 Quote
Xtreme Addict Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Guys, don't complain too much! Search for the solution! Prolly you went into the wrong door?.. I would try once again. Ask - and it will be given to you: Took me & T0lsty two evenings to get our personal copy of the newest AB extreme these days. Honda, pro +1 You don't have polish department of MSI in your country Quote
cyclone Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Anyway another door is now open almost for everybody -) Credits to PJ. Quote
sember Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Hmmh whats different in lightning special oc bios compared to stock LN2 bios?? That bios was new thing for me.. Quote
Xtreme Addict Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Also I am curious about it, but on stock LN2 bios I get good MHz so... no idea what it is? Quote
Massman Posted May 30, 2012 Author Posted May 30, 2012 The special BIOS is so-called OCP unlocked. But as far as I know, it's just an increased OCP and not much different from stock bios. Quote
Xtreme Addict Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 The special BIOS is so-called OCP unlocked. But as far as I know, it's just an increased OCP and not much different from stock bios. I hit OCP without Reactor, with Reactor - I don't have OCP, but it's interesting Quote
Massman Posted May 30, 2012 Author Posted May 30, 2012 FYI - just a reminder. Elimination for the EMEA qualifier is 7/6 at 10PM GMT+2. You need to be in top-15 to be allowed to submit in the last week. Quote
rbuass Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 C'mon guys... Lets post results to MOA EMEA... I think the way to MSI keep the competition is to show there are "corum" and people working in that. Looking forward to monster scores...and sure....lots of lucky draws Quote
Xtreme Addict Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 C'mon guys...Lets post results to MOA EMEA... I think the way to MSI keep the competition is to show there are "corum" and people working in that. Looking forward to monster scores...and sure....lots of lucky draws My mobo died, I ordered a new one, I am waiting now. I guess there will be a lot of monster scores... Quote
Smoke Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 I cant post, no Russia in EMEA country list! I hope it is error Quote
Massman Posted May 30, 2012 Author Posted May 30, 2012 I cant post, no Russia in EMEA country list! I hope it is error Fixed it Quote
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