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[Gyrock]

I am wondering if the WR bonus point system is working properly.

 

According to the Massman-san's post,

 

http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=45007&postcount=1

 

my understanding is that the bonus points are distributed to the top twenty rankers.

 

Based on this, if you check the rankers from 10th to 19th, they are given to 0.0 bonus pts.

And then, 20th ranker earns 5.0 pts.

By looking through the ranking, you can find there are a couple of "the 20th ranked" scores,

for example, 3Dmark06 ranking has at least 5 different scores ranked 20th and rewarded 5.0 bonus pts each...

As far as the bonus point ranking goes, the counting algorithm seems strange.

In addition, bonus pts given to scores ranked from 1st to 9th seem to be lower than expected from Massman-san's post.

 

Moreover, I am not sure there is something to do with those above,

Hall of Fame rankings of all 3D benchmarks except 01 are somewhat strange.

Lower scores are sometimes ranked higher.

For example, In 3Dmark06 Hall of Fame ranking, 17th and 18th scores are obviously lower than 20th.

 

http://hwbot.org/rankings/benchmark/3dmark_2006/world_records

 

Checking this would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

[Massman]

Hi Gyrock,

 

The opening post you're refering to was to show the proposal and see how the community responds to it. The final version of the 3D-WR points has been adjusted a little bit (an even steeper curve) and can be found in this news post: http://hwbot.org/article/news/hwboints_algorithm_wr_3d_points_introduced_end_of_this_month

 

Concerning the inaccurate world record page: there's indeed a bug in the rankings that needs to be fixed. The ranks attributed to the 'incorrect' scores are correct however. This means that the score that is 17th on the world record page is actually ranked 20th by the engine, but for some unknown reason it's listed as 17th on the world record page.

[Gyrock]

Hi Massman-san

 

Thank you for your quick reply!

So my understanding about WR bonus pts was based on the older information, I am sorry...

Now I'm clear except one thing, which is ;

At the moment my 3Dmark06 score is ranked 10th with no bonus.

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/999991_gyrock_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_41774_marks

 

 

I checked the ranking down to 100th and found that there are 18 scores marked at 20th place and given 5.0pts bonus.

(Sorry guys listed below. I don't intend to accuse you guys, but I do intend to show examples)

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/980706_me4me_3dmark_2006_3x_radeon_hd_5870_40539_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1006327_kangaxx_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_40479_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/988430_leghorn_giorgioprimo_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_40094_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/995507_konrad76___lore85bg_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39960_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/983874_icebob_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39934_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/986765_donbe_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_39930_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/993951_cische_jungle_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_39923_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991940_splave_3dmark_2006_2x_geforce_gtx_480_39881_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990268_achill3us_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39589_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/945386_joe_cool_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_39341_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/898014_masterchorch_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_39316_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/975161_zolkorn_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38959_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/981474_nanok_3dmark_2006_radeon_hd_5970_38540_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/881569_hipro5_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_38517_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/977586_cbgpcs_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_5870_38335_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/936754_kingpin_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5870_38095_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/931263_macci_3dmark_2006_2x_radeon_hd_5970_38052_marks

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/892341_3oh6_3dmark_2006_4x_radeon_hd_4890_37927_marks

 

 

It seems that rather older results tend to be left as "20th" so I assume these results once experienced the rank of 20th in the past and the "memory" has remained until now..

 

 

Massman-san, I know you are very busy but if you find time, colud you please check this again?

 

Sincerely yours

[Massman]

Okay, so there really is a problem.

 

Thanks for the info, I will have a look at it!

[Gyrock]

Hi Massman-san

 

Thanks a lot for your quick check!

 

The same thing seems to happen on other 3D benchmark rankings too.

[voidn]

Gtx 480 ranks are being displayed incorrectly. Points seem ok though:

 

3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 25

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/994158_kingpin_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_135141_marks

 

3Dmark 2003 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 16th out of 78

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1008458_thebanik_3dmark_2003_geforce_gtx_480_104068_marks

 

3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 1st out of 6, good for 2.0 points.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/998347_roccoesa_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_108155_marks

 

3Dmark 2001 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 17th out of 18, good for 0.1 points.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/996116_dakara_3dmark_2001_geforce_gtx_480_62892_marks

 

3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 2nd out of 32, good for 13.1 points.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/991995_hiwa_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_41096_marks

 

3Dmark 2006 GeForce GTX 480 rank: 47th out of 86, good for 0.1 points.

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/990349_withoutgod_3dmark_2006_geforce_gtx_480_33508_marks

[Gyrock]

Hi richba5tard-san

 

Thanks for corresponding!

It seems OK for the "20th" matter now but the 10th scores of all3D benchmark rankings haven't got yet their bonus pts to be given.

 

Could you pls check it again?

 

Thanks

[Gyrock]

Hi richba5tard-san

 

Thank you very much for correction!

The sysytem has become more fair and now I feel relieved.

 

Thanks a lot!!

[K404]

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_9800_gx2?tab=rankings

 

A lot of guys have duplicate results. The duplicates have no points but I *think* the duplicates are shunting other scores down the rankings

[Alriin]

...example? Can you make a Screenshot?

[K404]

3D01 single card... it gets worse from ranks 40 onwards... a lot of guys older scores are showing up as well as their best. Look at all the scores with no points, but a ranking of some kind

[Turrican]

for some reason the longer scores aren't completely visible anymore?

(the super pi 32m score is cut)

 

[voidn]

3dmark05 WR's are out of date. Compare with 05 rankings.

[K404]

Any progress on dealing with all the old/removed/beaten scores that are still showing up in hardware rankings?

[Turrican]

the places you changed are barely readable , because the arrows are in the way. looks like some layout problem?

[Turrican]

another "bug":

 

because of adding the graphs/stats to videocard's info page, the specs like (Bus width, memory type, memory size etc.) are gone or not visible.

 

Christian Ney reported this to me.

[TerraRaptor]

http://hwbot.org/searchResults.do?direction=&applicationId=3&cpu=Core+i5+430M&numberOfProcessors=0&gpu=&numberOfVideocards=0&manufacturer=&chipset=&model=&memManufacturer=&memType=&memProduct=&minCpuFreq=&maxCpuFreq=&minGpuCoreFreq=&maxGpuCoreFreq=&minGpuMemFreq=&maxGpuMemFreq=&minMemFreq=&maxMemFreq=&countryId=0&teamId=0&userName=&minScore=&maxScore=&displayAdvanced=false&filterBlocked=&filterUser=&filterVerification=&imageAttached=&dateFrom=&dateUntil=&system=&minTotalPoints=&gpuId=0&cpuId=2130&chipsetId=0&modelId=0&manufacturerId=0&memManufacturerId=&memProductId=&memTypeId=&offset=0

 

Here we can see the bug:

1. Clicking on lizardking78's SuperPi score I get his result is 1st out of 4.

2. Clicking on SArd's SuperPi score I get his result is 2nd out of 5.

3. Clicking on johnksss's SuperPi score I get his result is 3rd out of 15.

 

the problem is with the "out of xxx". Each place shows me different number of submitted results in category.

[Alriin]

My Score with the Athlon II X3 435 ist the best x3 Core Result in wPrime1024, but the x4 Core Result of Marat_ufa from December 2009 get the Gold Cup and 2 Points. I wait long enough... :-)

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/973353_alriin_wprime_1024m_athlon_ii_x3_435_5min_22sec_687ms

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/935832_marat___ufa_wprime_1024m_athlon_ii_x3_435_5min_21sec_800ms

[Snowmiss]

Just a graphic bug:

 

The picture on this page says socket lga1366 instead of socket 370

[Alriin]

My Score with the Athlon II X3 435 ist the best x3 Core Result in wPrime1024, but the x4 Core Result of Marat_ufa from December 2009 get the Gold Cup and 2 Points. I wait long enough... :-)

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/973353_alriin_wprime_1024m_athlon_ii_x3_435_5min_22sec_687ms

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/935832_marat___ufa_wprime_1024m_athlon_ii_x3_435_5min_21sec_800ms

 

Please!!!

[K404]

Why do hardware rankings drop and then rise back up? I've had 2 golds move to silver... then go back to gold. I've wondered if scores submitted in the 2x GPU category... "pass through?" the 1x category?

[Leeghoofd]

It's called "the let's annoy Kenny feature" Seems Massman didn't pay attention, it has to move your golden cups to silver or lower and stay put...

 

Either the result was moderated, recalculated, no idea why, but I've had it on CPU's and GPU's...

[knopflerbruce]

It's probably because someone post in the wrong category, and then it gets moderated. I've seen this on a few of my own scores.

[Turrican]

for some reason the longer scores aren't completely visible anymore?

(the super pi 32m score is cut)

 

 

the places you changed are barely readable , because the arrows are in the way. looks like some layout problem?

 

 

 

 

 

still some layout problems

 

and

 

another "bug":

 

because of adding the graphs/stats to videocard's info page, the specs like (Bus width, memory type, memory size etc.) are gone or not visible.

[Turrican]

sam noticed a quite funny error on one of the socket 370 achivements.

 

http://hwbot.org/community/achievement/3071_

 

on the achivement picture it says "Get 150 Hardware Points on LGA1366"