marco.is.not.80

zero plus zero??? ? JK ?

Thank you for the review, WS! ?

LOL - maybe because I have it in my screenshot.

just out curiosity - how did you know what memory voltage I was using?

Voltage is a lot more important for timings - so if you wanted to try and lower the CAS Latency, etc. you'd definitely want to add more volts. Since I was going for max DDR rate and raising my timings 1.52 to 1.55 seemed appropriate considering that the DDR4-4600 Mhz retail kits are being sold @ 1.5.

When it says CPU core/uncore is limited to 6 Ghz (plus/minus 10 mhz) does that mean up to 6 Ghz (so 5 Ggz would be acceptable) or 6 Ghz only with a small spread of 10 mhz on either side?

no worries - I'll take the extra points towards my overall league score!

really impressive - nice work!

Very nice!

Well, I just ordered a memory kit (pre-ordered) so I can enter some of the stages, right? ;-)

George/RT, I mean, how early did I need to be? I started checking the day after it was announced on HWbot... I didn't realize it was exclusive to galaxstore.net so maybe I spent a lot of time searching other places for no reason. Oh well, now I know for next year but by the sounds of it we are talking VERY limited edition so even being early doesn't guarantee anything, right? Good luck to all those who entered!

I don't get how anyone can actually enter this event when the equipment needed isn't being sold or is sold out everywhere I've looked. I've searched everywhere - this equipment is vaporware for us over in USA.

Just purchased one of these a few minutes ago - I'm hoping that the two dimm and smaller PCB design will work out the way it has for other boards from competing vendors. $129 brand new from EVGA's site made the gamble worth it.

Kirche, The price is great from both of those places but how can I order to USA address? I tried to use Google Translate to navigate the website but it completely blew up on me when I did that - and none of the links worked. I'm guessing I'd have to know someone in Japan/Asia and order to their address and then have them send it to me, correct?

Newegg. Of course, I didn't know there was an "M" version and that was what this thread was all about. Apparently, it's still a good deal but definitely isn't going to perform like I had anticipated. No "12-12-12-28 @ 4000" so ya....

Thank you, sir! Will make sure I isolate them ?

Ok, I've done everything except isolate the last two jumpers on the left side (from the picture a few posts up) - but I'm not wanting to try until someone can confirm for me that I need to do that or if it was for a specific motherboard? Sorry, I've read the thread three times now but not sure how that issue even came up. Marco

35L = $280 for you, 10L = $700 for me For $420 savings I'll fry bull ball sacks and eat them with my spaghetti. Thanks for the tip, gonna go on E-Bay right now and see if I can find one at that price even if it means grabbing it from Doctor DoLittle's Pet Cemetery and Animal Hospice. Although you are correct remember the reason I purchased the Asrock board was because it was $127 vs $240 for the Apex Z270. That's a pretty big difference. Besides, after $700 for a 10L Dewar I was checking the furniture in my house for loose change. ?

Ya, but you'd need someone in Japan to order it for you and then ship it. I can't go to another countries Amazon and sign up with an American address unless someone knows something I don't. RE: BIOS for the OC Formula Non-M version - I went through the entire thread and found every link to every BIOS that had been posted: --- CUT HERE --- https://www.dropbox.com/s/726j649rezlh70o/Z17MOCF7.51E_CFL.bin?dl=0 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hvskCy4DWEEcQzInyh6ZfqwZNGBY4nhl https://community.hwbot.org/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=968 (extreme 4?) https://u16962776.ctfile.com/dir/16962776-27603440-584218/ http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z17MOCF7.51D_CFL.rar http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/AFDSetup(v3.0.209.1).rar http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z17OCF7.51A_CFL.rar --- CUT HERE --- The one you want if you are full retard like me is this: http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z17OCF7.51A_CFL.rar Yay! Thanks, Nick! Marco PS: Ok, just to be really clear burning this BIOS: http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z17OCF7.51A_CFL.rar and shorting the top 2 and blocking the left 2 pins like this: is what I want, right? Sorry, just want to make sure I'm not missing something since it is pretty obvious that happens quite a bit in my life.

Bless you Noxinite for saving me from having to restore BIOS A from BIOS B. Bless you George for gently saying in a real nice way that I'm an idiot for a) buying the wrong but not completely useless board and b) being the only retard who bought his dewar new. I appreciate your tactfulness in this matter. ? marco PS: So... how does one know if a used dewar isn't slowly leaking? (beyond the fact that they are designed to breath I mean) Any stories of people overclocking at night and dead in the morning?

And just to be clear, can I even use the BIOS linked on the original post of this thread or does it require the M version of the board? I can just see myself not only buying the wrong board but then flashing it with the wrong BIOS because it is very important that if you are going to really frack yourself you need to do it all the way... not too much mind you - just enough to make yourself angry.

So I got the wrong board is that what I'm hearing? The link above that everyone is saying was a good deal - that linked to the non-M version, too but in reality it also means no one would actually buy that board? This non-micro formfactor board that I now have out on my table - it's not the Asrock board that everyone was doing 12-12-12-28 back when it wasn't so fashionable? Jesus Christ. The marketing departments of these mobo companies need to help us poor customers out a little - I'm getting tired of figuring out if I need the new Asus Maximus Rampage Roadrage Formula One Nascar Super Fly Jimmy Snuka Off the Top Rope Camel Clutch Extreme XXXV.I with RGB+ lighting - or - wait - is it the same board but the Gaming line? Or wait a sec... I need the ROG version which is the same name but instead of the Extreme it is the Macho Man Randy Savage OC variant but only the one which is ATX and not the E-ATX version - unless it is v1.1 of the board then it is ok to get the E-ATX version - just make sure it's the one manufactured in Mongolia because the others don't have the solid gold mosfet with diamond dandruff sprinkled on them. Just did a quick search of Newegg, Amazon and Ebay. Don't even see a Z170M version of this board. I did find it on ASRock's website with this lovely caption: "This model may not be sold worldwide. Please contact your local dealer for the availability of this model in your region." Gonna assume this translates into "if you don't speak Mandarin or Cantonese or live at least close to Taiwan, China or Korea you'll need to go with Asus and get the Mini-Macho Man Romulus Formula XXX Strip Poker Maximus Humpback Edition v1.1" Frack me in the goat bum. Oh well, I'm sure I'll feel better when I realize that 10 liters of LN2 equals 5 minutes of benching and will have to shell out $2,800 to get the 50L dewar versions. You know what? Frack it. I'm going to cash in my 401k and build an LN2 Silo. Frack the little kid dewars - I'm going full grain alcohol silo complete with tracks so the train can stop in front of my house and refuel me. You gotta start thinking big people... Anyways, I'm gonna go have a drink. marco

Actually, George - if we had both been paying attention we might have noticed a few posts back this: So looks like I get a good deal ? Still don't know what a "non M version" is so please enlighten me.

Yes, the dewar was 700 USD. Made by International Cryogenics, INC. That got me 10L - which is small. Mind you, I went on Amazon and it looks like this particular vendor is really expensive. I have no idea why - but I'm also probably derailing this thread but please feel free to send me a private message guiding me out of stupidity. I saw on another thread somewhere that Splave has a 50L and 35L dewar and that got him something like 6 hours of benching. Did he really drop $3,000 on just the containers? Seems like the major costs for LN2 are all upfront because the LN2 is cheap where I'm at - $3.00/liter - at least I think that is cheap. In regard to the non-M version - I have no idea what that means. Here is what arrived the other day - tell me if I got a good deal? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157649 $127.00

So, I recently purchased everything I need to try LN2 for the first time (including a storage container that cost $700 - WTF?) and for the first time in a long time I found myself with no motherboard to plug some CPUs into (either given away to family members, used in my own work/play system or had been fried in some other endeavor) and went to Newegg and started perusing and remembered this thread and sure though I found a new one for $120 which seems like a steal and a lot cheaper than even an open box Z270, so ya - thanks for this thread! I purchased a high quality conductive pen for the 8700K, too.