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Naw I like this change of background, sandbags are stupid. Tbh it'd be awesome if there could be a background change every day of the comp, but the overhead would be too much. Seriously guys, how hard is it to download the new background on the same laptop that you use for taking notes while benching? If you're not sandbagging then this is no big deal. Really sandbagging is stupid, if you're worried about people beating your scores then make bigger scores. Sandbagging only hurts competition.

If we vote on 3d I say we drop all legacy, waaaaay too easy to cheat on those unless someone wants to make a wrapper and drop all old scores.

You are answering a different question than we have been asking this whole time. Does an AM3 cpu in an AM2+ motherboard count as an AM3 or an AM2+ Motherboard reference frequency score for purposes of the comp. So hypothetically is it that I can run an AM2, AM2+, and AM3 chip all in a GA-MA790x-UD4p and count them as 3 seperate scores because the cpus are seperate sockets, or would they all count as AM2+ as the motherboard is AM2+.

Even that is too complicated, just make it Rookie and Enthusiast league with no cooling limitations at all so that the only thing that determines league is time on the bot. If you're able to drop 50 hardware golds and take half the global firsts in your first 6 months of OC then you deserve to be top of the rookie league no matter your cooling, etc.

The database already has all motherboards listed by socket. Seems like it'd be pretty damn easy to do the results by the socket that a motherboard is listed as using rather than the one that the cpu is listed as using.

So since sponsorship doesn't really matter and cooling is almost impossible to verify I think the real question is why do we have leagues? Enthusiast league has always been about who can pretend that they aren't dunking their rad in ice the best. Apprentice league is kinda silly as it's just extreme league jr., rookie/novice league is the only split that makes any sense as it's pretty damn easy to verify how long someone has been on the bot. So my proposal is 2 leagues, Rookie and Enthusiast, with no cooling limitations in either. You start out in rookie league and after you've been on the bot for so long you bump up to Enthusiast league. Splitting leagues by cooling is silly at this point and introduces undue administrative overhead.

This is already the rules. Only current gen ES puts you in elite.

Thanks! I will use the elmor tool then as my C5F gave up the ghost after last session so it's on to my C5FZ

At least now we have M10A, I'll have to keep looking for M9A as I didn't find it in that thread. At least I'm one step closer

This chip is crazy! I need to fill my dewar and see what mine can do

I can understand the desire to have an apprentice league as pretty sure that nobody cheats their cooling in that category however they're unable to fully compete with ln2 results, however I'd say that's just part of the competition. Sure your ranking will go down, but that happens every rev no matter what league you're in. As for enthusiast league I'm gonna put this bluntly, which will probably piss a lot of people off. With how hard it is to verify cooling this should be renamed to ice bucket challenge league or just rolled into apprentice league.

That example doesn't clear anything up. All different s775 cpus are still on a s775 motherboard. The question is does an AM3 cpu on an AM2+ board count as AM3 or AM2+, which still hasn't been clearly answered.

Enable futuremark systeminfo should fix that

Yes, started it before work and was sad to see that it had not yet completed the bench

Yes, this is the biggest issue I see. The constant changing of focus on points. It's okay to change it, but I'd like to see something stick around for a few year. Also can agree about wanting hw pts, don't make my quest to gild all igp a waste!

Well for one it doesn't have speedstep, it also doesn't support hyperthreading, it has a stock tdp of 35w, 1mb of cache, comes at a stock 1.6 ghz, supports ddr3 1066, and has intel hd graphics

Actually was gonna suggest G440, it has several advantages that are not immediately apparent.

Get the current rev fully working then maybe we consider updating it. When I have to recalc some subs several times (and I did extensive testing, you really have to recalc several times it's not just the server catching up to the first one) you can't say that current rev works. Most of the continuing complaints about our current rev is how much the ranking algorithm just fails to work at times or otherwise things break. People have mostly calmed down about how points are gained. You need to pick a way that points are attained and stick to it, people like to know what they need to do to get ahead without it changing all the time.

I know that you bench legit, but the bench is so very insecure that a score can just be selected without a gpu OC. The cheat I know is so very easy and takes no skill that it renders the efforts of legit scores a shambles. I got a #36 global score with intel integrated graphics and cpu at 5 ghz using the cheat, obviously I didn't submit it but I have a screenshot I can share in PM.

So looking here and now I see why everyone hates this rev, it's because r/overclocking would rise to 2nd overall JK, it's because this rev is shit and would make all efforts wasted. I don't have fun on most modern hw, it's just not that interesting compared to lots of older hw. That's also why I avoid most comps except team comps, since they're just not fun for me. If the changes in rev 8 are made it would very well kill the competive side of the hobby for me. I would still probably continue to overclock but I would feel less of a need to participate on the bot.

I agree, this bench is way overvalued, especially when it's ridiculously easy to essentially type in your score. Nothing this easy to cheat should have points.

No spoilers but you're missing a few semi-obvious bombshells

Can't wait until you fill your dewar! Did you test for max fsb?

What constitutes a Vega 56 Nano? Is it only the powercolor vega 56 nano? Or would cards like the saphire vega 56 pulse or XFX Vega 56 Double which use the nano PCB also count as Vega 56 Nano since there's nothing besides the pcb that differentiates a nano? They don't even show up different in OS or have a specially marked die. As far as I can tell Vega 56 Nano is a duplicate listing for Vega 56 since it's just a different PCB made by some manufacturers and is still a normal Vega 56 with no differences in the die or memory. It's as much a different vega 56 as the liquid edition vega 64 is a different vega 64.