Crew Leeghoofd Posted June 21, 2016 Crew Share Posted June 21, 2016 The new Wikileaks, interesting... Well I must say we can't even compete anymore, if more than 3 scores are required. Unless we dig up some new blood asap... Will moderate the scores and help Websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1024 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sadly, this is going more and more into the direction "kill the small teams".In the past, I could manage many stages on my own, now it seems impossible. Yes, it is true, for our small one and the only team in Belarus to. Hope on this, Whatever you found is still preliminary, and might be changed, so I don´t think questions now make sense^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrtel Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 You kill us. it's bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted June 21, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 21, 2016 Maybe we should make a one man cup in the future - this is extremely poor, if you are not able to get three!!! different guys to submit at certain stages I wonder why you are in a team anyway... I am always open for legit criticism, but you should simply remember what this is called - team cup and not one man ego trip cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumanoid Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Sadly, this is going more and more into the direction "kill the small teams".In the past, I could manage many stages on my own, now it seems impossible. I agree with you. The current Team Cup is not interesting for small teams, too much financial investment and no special appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1024 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 websmile Of course TEAM cup mean TEAM first of all, but there are teams with 100+ overclockers and small teams with about 10, think need to think about all of us. All statistics in all previous TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrtel Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 This cup seems to me for only richest teams at hwbot,imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarc Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 sad,there is nothing was older than s462/s478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Maybe we should make a one man cup in the future - this is extremely poor, if you are not able to get three!!! different guys to submit at certain stages I wonder why you are in a team anyway... I am always open for legit criticism, but you should simply remember what this is called - team cup and not one man ego trip cup 3 people or 5 or even 10 (We managed 8 or 9 for country if Im right and that got us pretty far) is good for the team spirit and nothing people should complain about. What really gets us worried is the dogpile part tho, if that part is only one sub per member its going to be a pure largest team competition as there are hundreds of GPUs geting significant amounts of 3dmark01 points. The ‘Dogpile’ round involves teams making as many submissions as possible with scores added together to make a total score. Only score per CPU/GPU allowed, so it’s all about digging out and scoring on as many different CPUs/GPUs as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted June 21, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 21, 2016 Don´t worry, if I remember correctly it is not user limited (means submit as many cpus as you have personally) and we put weight on points in a direction that this is for sure not over present. I bit my tongue a bit on comments above, maybe people should see that 75% of hardware needed is 4 years or older, 50% 6-8 years and so on. Even on new gen stage you can use 3-4 year old stuff at some stages. We can not omit new gen benchers completely, for us everyone is welcome at team cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Don´t worry, if I remember correctly it is not user limited (means submit as many cpus as you have personally) and we put weight on points in a direction that this is for sure not over present. I bit my tongue a bit on comments above, maybe people should see that 75% of hardware needed is 4 years or older, 50% 6-8 years and so on. Even on new gen stage you can use 3-4 year old stuff at some stages. We can not omit new gen benchers completely, for us everyone is welcome at team cup In that case I have to say that what we see so far looks really good and well balanced, I like the idea to split it up based on memory type Even If Im not a personal fan of the 3 subs with laptops in modern hardware stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taloken Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 Having multiple scores on one stage is not annoying on modern hardware, but it is on vintage. Like finding 3 people who have a K10 + 2 HD3000 ... would be awesome to ever find one guy. And K10 is not so old. Most of people sell their old stuff to get new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumanoid Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 •Stage 4: 3DMark05 - Socket 939 + Radeon R500 (Average of 3 best GPUs) FX60+X1950XTX it's so old-))) drivel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daimons Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately, in our country it is sometimes difficult to find even 1 set for the submission, well 3, and the more different members of the team - it is simply unrealistic. We will be a lot to think about our participation. Edited June 22, 2016 by daimons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted June 22, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 22, 2016 Logistics, organizing hardware and coordinating within the team is always one of the biggest challenges at team cup, we know this. We opted for max of three submissions at multi sub stages to give chances also to smaller teams, often this ends in sessions where they bench together to get the results needed. I really hope for your understanding that we made these multi-sub stages because we want to emphasize the team spirit, and from my experience in the past as member of awardfabrik, which has very few active benchers last years but always did very good, I think smaller groups often do better because they are better organized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 there are lots of competitions for binned skylake + GTX1080. only a few guys with best samples can realy compete in stages for this hardware. a amd k6 or pentium II or whatever kosts maybe 5,- € at ebay. everybody can compete. so i like the idea of cups where these expensive hardware does not matter and everybody has same chance to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylth Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I think this format is quitte well balanced with the HW needed, not so much stage where really high expensive HW is needed, no 980ti/1080 SLI needed Quite a good challenge. Will it be some restriction about cooling? or frequency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted June 22, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 22, 2016 No restrictions planned so far, neither on cooling nor do we plan frequency caps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 it is easier with frequency cap, but it´s a competition, it shouldn´t be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digg_de Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 there are lots of competitions for binned skylake + GTX1080. only a few guys with best samples can realy compete in stages for this hardware. a amd k6 or pentium II or whatever kosts maybe 5,- € at ebay. everybody can compete. so i like the idea of cups where these expensive hardware does not matter and everybody has same chance to compete. I like more the "NotPay2Win" Competitions. :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquzz Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I like more the "NotPay2Win" Competitions. :nana: Yes, you should e-mail your hardware list to the moderators so that they can create competions based on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I like more the "NotPay2Win" Competitions. like the win98-competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digg_de Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yes, you should e-mail your hardware list to the moderators so that they can create competions based on that... Should i? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Digg_de Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 like the win98-competition? Why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1024 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Windows98 Stage was open for all, there is no need TOP HW, so it was be possible for all )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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