yosarianilives Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, George_o/c said: Damn dude, I haven't been following hwbot for the past 2-3 months due to work, haven't benched anything! I was amazed though that you managed to get 81 points in XTU and that f*cking 0.61 in x265 I must have had like 30 runs at 80 marks for XTU, I tried everything! In the end I told my self that it was not possible to get a better score with 109MHz bclk, you would need even more. You've found the ultimate G470, congrats, nice runs My G470 unfortunately only works with single channel now, so I imagine the IMC got hit hard by all this pushing I did Lol, was the first run for me on that chip, but was the 4th chip. The secret for me was just out clock everyone Was running 109.9 and some tight timings on my psc. Didn't even use the optimal OS for xtu. I actually binned on x265, which was awful to bin on with 40 minute runs. I just ran xtu as an after thought while I ran everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said: Whilst you do get equal points, there's a bonus for places 1-5 for global scores, so your total points will be great for 2nd even if scored the same as 5th for example. Ranks are done by submission date I believe. date will sort out yes, but since when there is a bonus for first 5 places...? :cry: global looks ok on the ua for x265 4k, but for xtu, there is obviously a pb with scores, why would #8 score less than 9 or 7 ? Edited March 30, 2018 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted March 30, 2018 Members Share Posted March 30, 2018 There's been a bonus on the top3/5 for a while, just if people ranked the same they'd all be given the bonus type thing as far as I'm aware, whereas now things have changed to try and avoid issues with hundreds of people getting '1st' and reaping the high points associated with it. Gaming the system so to speak. Not an official view but that's my thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Luumi and I submitted on 1/25 both 0.6 fps, I believe my screenshot (3am) is earlier than his (8.30 morning or evening) but I am #6 and he is #5 we don t see time stamp though for the submission, I guess I submitted right away http://hwbot.org/submission/3768609_luumi_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_celeron_g470_0.6_fpshttp://hwbot.org/submission/3769054_bolc_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_celeron_g470_0.6_fps Edited March 30, 2018 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted March 30, 2018 Members Share Posted March 30, 2018 Maybe @richba5tard can comment on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_4k/rankings?start=0&cores=1#start=0#interval=20 as of #7 and 0.59 fps, all 0.59 get 28.5 pts. glad I worked so hard for 0.6... given I had 0.6 at 12.19 AM :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, bolc said: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_4k/rankings?start=0&cores=1#start=0#interval=20 as of #7 and 0.59 fps, all 0.59 get 28.5 pts. glad I worked so hard for 0.6... given I had 0.6 at 12.19 AM :cry: .61 wen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) I am left to do 0.6051, but given you did 0.606ish with 109.9 bclk...? I am screwed or hope 2.2 can do miracles Edited March 30, 2018 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, bolc said: I am left to do 0.6051, but given you did 0.606ish with 109.9 bclk...? I am screwed or hope 2.2 can do miracles I didn't use it at the time, but in later testing I found that the sandy no avx preset may improve performance. Also I didn't use hypers cause I didn't think they'd work, but now I've seen with some better testing that the preset is just crap for hypers and if you all manual they might work some wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 16 hours ago, yosarianilives said: I didn't use it at the time, but in later testing I found that the sandy no avx preset may improve performance. Also I didn't use hypers cause I didn't think they'd work, but now I've seen with some better testing that the preset is just crap for hypers and if you all manual they might work some wonders. good to know, I might give a try at 2280+ cas8, but 8 10 8 24 1t with tight subs with psc, against 8 8 8 24 but perhpas with losser subtimings. will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, bolc said: good to know, I might give a try at 2280+ cas8, but 8 10 8 24 1t with tight subs with psc, against 8 8 8 24 but perhpas with losser subtimings. will see Well hyper will be hard to get to higher mhz like 2280, I'm only considering it cause once you get to 109.9 you have to use the 1866 strap which gets me 2050 mhz, where hypers could shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, yosarianilives said: Well hyper will be hard to get to higher mhz like 2280, I'm only considering it cause once you get to 109.9 you have to use the 1866 strap which gets me 2050 mhz, where hypers could shine. my kingston hyperx with hyper can do (voltage for each stick) so no issue to get 2300 888 24 1t if the imc wants i am more afraid that subtimings will be harder to tighten on hyper than on psc, and I have no bbse capable of similar results, hum, let me see I have these crazy bbse that do didn t know they could go to 2666 cas9 might do 2280 cas8.... to check one day Edited March 31, 2018 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 All rankings have been recalculated by yesterday morning. I did some spot checks and did not find any which look odd. Does anyone else find any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted March 31, 2018 Members Share Posted March 31, 2018 I thought things may have been finished as suddenly my rank etc seemed more in line to what it was before the update. Glad to see things are back up and running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 My 32M globals were still broke earlier, but seem fine now. I also seem to be getting WR pts on subs that get 0 globals?? https://hwbot.org/submission/2915203 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 31 minutes ago, GeorgeStorm said: I thought things may have been finished as suddenly my rank etc seemed more in line to what it was before the update. Glad to see things are back up and running Hooray, a lot of effort for status quo! Everybody happy! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtiJason Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 2 hours ago, richba5tard said: Hooray, a lot of effort for status quo! Everybody happy! Are Road to Pro Points / 2 included in this ? I've been stuck at 0 since the change beganhttp://hwbot.org/user/gtijason/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niobium615 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Overall the rankings are looking a lot better, thanks rich! The 2C XTU global rankings still seem to be a bit messed up though(lots of subs getting 38.8 global points) : http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?start=100&cores=2#start=100#interval=20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tame Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, richba5tard said: All rankings have been recalculated by yesterday morning. I did some spot checks and did not find any which look odd. Does anyone else find any? Take for example Fire Strike global points, if you scroll down enough the rankings (in rank 100+ range) you suddenly start encountering 38.6 gl points. Looks like there's still some calc to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyOC Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 http://hwbot.org/submission/3485313_jordan_hyde99_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_580_107823_marks This doesn't seem right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 7 hours ago, niobium615 said: Overall the rankings are looking a lot better, thanks rich! The 2C XTU global rankings still seem to be a bit messed up though(lots of subs getting 38.8 global points) : http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?start=100&cores=2#start=100#interval=20 Ah yes, submissions ranked 100 to 200 have not explicitly been refreshed. Doing this now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stivut Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Submissions with fake global points: http://hwbot.org/submission/2334234_anderson6060_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_580_117894_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/3762089_adventurepo_cinebench___r15_core_i7_8700k_1699_cb http://hwbot.org/submission/2353756_stu_a_msd_3dmark11___performance_2x_radeon_hd_7970_18248_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2355817_stu_a_msd_3dmark___fire_strike_radeon_hd_7970_8731_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2355820_stu_a_msd_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_radeon_hd_7970_4254_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2412349_stu_a_msd_xtu_core_i7_3770k_942_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/3471106_deocer_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i7_7700k_5min_16sec_268ms http://hwbot.org/submission/3471346_deocer_wprime___1024m_core_i7_7700k_2min_6sec_887ms http://hwbot.org/submission/3471053_deocer_pifast_core_i7_7700k_12sec_440ms http://hwbot.org/submission/3801276_avalanche_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_970_11558_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/3714371_avalanche_memory_frequency_ddr4_sdram_2201.2_mhz http://hwbot.org/submission/3486311_iji_superpi___32m_core_i7_7700k_5min_58sec_936ms http://hwbot.org/submission/3493678_iji_wprime___1024m_core_i7_7700k_2min_4sec_86ms http://hwbot.org/submission/2474679_atisoc0936_3dmark03_radeon_hd_6950_89892_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2474681_atisoc0936_3dmark05_radeon_hd_6950_37984_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2844405_nata_58_wprime___1024m_core_i7_4790k_2min_24sec_952ms http://hwbot.org/submission/2825166_nata_58_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_580_129876_marks ...and many many others that put their owners in higher position in league rankings. The rankings are still messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Read my post above, if hardware rank is >100 points are not yet recalculated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 im gunna say something here, no offence to anyone but this is getting out of hand, do you think these guys are not trying to fix this problem on BOT>>>>?????. why the hell dont you all just shut the fuck up, wait and let them do their job theyre tryin to do to get it right, ????, richbastard. and all the others in BOT that give their time . effort, for nothing, you ungrateful pricks, ) this is a free show here) and have been left with a heap of shit to clean up, yes its going to take time, so stop all the bullshit with and why isnt my scores or points been calculated and done yet, the more you fools do this , the more time it takes for them to look at all your whinging and deal with that, then get on with doing what theyre trying to do for every one, and fot bot, try to get things in order, deal with CPUZ' s crap. and all the the rest of the other benches that arent up to scratch, no fault of BOT, they just gotta deal with it for who ??? YOU that want to bench who and when what you want to, so get off your high horses and get down to ground level again, become real and give the guys a go at it, all this bullshit youre going on with is just making things take longer for your benefit, so support it , let them do it right and get it done, is it gunna kill ya not to see "your" points there ??????????? or are you that VAIN, that you need to see that in BOT to make you feel worthwhile, if so you got big problems already , and nothing to do with BOT ??????!!!!!! and for you blokes that dont know what i and it means The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour...unless you make change ! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantgibson Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Your points are well taken Tom, we the greater community are mostly either ignorant or incidentally take for granted the huge amount of work that goes on behind the scoreboards to keep the Bot up, running and growing. It's no doubt a lot of real work, that requires knowledgeable expertise, determination and patience that I suspect isn't adequately, if at all appropriately enumerated. Perhaps we can all take a moment and thank all those past and present who have and continue to labor making this 24/7, 365 days a year, global venue possible, and for any who have been bitten by the OC bug a hell of a lot of fun... SOOO a big sincere thanks to you all. That said I would like to suggest for future reference; if there is going to be a big and prolonged overhaul of the engine, take a little more time and make a concerted effort to adequately explain it to the community. The more detailed the better, and considerably more than has currently been the case might nip a range of problems in the bud. State a schedule, even if it has to be revised, underscore that members ranking will potentially be fluctuating wildly as the changes progress throw the system. My own have in the course of this update nearly quadrupled at a point (that was thoroughly entertaining) before finally settling down about where I would say is a factually accurate. Anyway my 2 cent is now spent, Cheers Bots, thanks for your hard work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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