Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 22, 2022 Crew Share Posted July 22, 2022 General Rules General and benchmark specific hwbot rules apply Desktop hardware only (no server parts) unless explicitly allowed at stage rules No ES, nor unreleased hardware One bencher can only contribute once for each stage For the stages that require several results, different CPUs / GPUs / MEM types are needed (example: LGA1150 cpu bench with three results needs 4790, 4770K, 4690, if three different benchers submit three results with 4770k only one will count to the ranking) General Verification Rules 2D scores require CPU-Z tabs for CPU, Memory and Motherboard 3D scores require CPU-Z tabs for CPU, Memory and Motherboard and GPUZ 2D Memory Stage scores require CPU-Z tabs for CPU, Memory, SPD and Motherboard Single CPU only unless specificially mentioned Single card/GPU core only unless specificially mentioned Compettion Wallpaper is mandatory for participation Standard verification rules remain applicable, check them out here (click) Sub-competitions HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - AMD HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - INTEL HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - AMD GPU HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - NVIDIA GPU HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - Memory HWBOT Team Cup 2022 - Integrated GPU Each sub-competition consists of mutliple stages. Check the stages for specific rules. The point distribution of each stage is: 50-47-45-43-41-39-37-35-33-31-29-27-25-23-21-19-17-15-13-11-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 AMD sub-competition AMD - Stage1 Cinebench R11.5 DDR - Use 2 different Socket 939 CPUs (no Opterons allowed) AMD - Stage2 - Geekbench3 DDR2 - Use 3 different Athlon Series CPUs from Socket AM2 and AM2+ AMD - Stage3 - X265 4K DDR3 - Use 3 different quadcore CPUs from Socket AM3 AMD - Stage4 - 3Dmark CPU profile DDR4 - Use a 6-8-12 and 16 core AMD processor INTEL sub-competition Intel - Stage1 - 3dMark Vantage CPU performance DDR4 - Use 3 different Core i5 CPUs from Sky, Kaby, Coffee, Rocket or Comet-Lake Intel - Stage2 - Geekbench4 DDR3 - Use 3 different socket LGA1156 CPUs Intel - Stage3 - Wprime32 DDR2 - Use 3 different AllenDale 2M CPUs Intel - Stage4 - CB2003 DDR - Use 2 different Northwood 128 core CPUs Intel - Stage4 - Y-Cruncher 1B DDR5 - Use 2 different processors AMD GPU sub-competitions AMD GPU - Stage1 - FireStrike GPU GDDR5 - Use 3 different AMD GDDR5 2 core GPUs (Crossfire or single graphics card) AMD GPU - Stage2 - 3DMark Vantage GPU GDDR3 - Use 3 different AMD GDDR3 GPUs AMD GPU - Stage3 - Catzilla 576p DDR2 - Use 2 different AMD DDR2 GPUs AMD GPU - Stage4 - 3DMark2001 SE -AGP - Use 2 different AMD AGP GPUs AMD GPU - Stage5 - TimeSpy GPU GDDR6 -Use 3 different AMD GDDR6 GPUs nVIDIA sub-competitions nVIDIA GPU - Stage1 - 3DMark03 GeForce GT215 - Use 2 different GT215 core based GPUs nVIDIA GPU - Stage2 - Heaven eXTreme GeForce 400 SLi - Use 3 different GeForce 400 series in SLi (max 2 cores) nVIDIA GPU - Stage3 - 3DMark 11 GeForce 500 series - Use 3 different GeForce 500 series GPUs nVIDIA GPU - Stage4 - GPUPI 3.3B GeForce 900 - Use 3 different GeForce 900 series GPUs - No Titan cards nVIDIA GPU - Stage5 - Geekbench 5 Compute -Use 3 different GeForce PCie3.0 GPUs (no Titans cards allowed) iGPU sub-competitions iGPU - Stage1 - 3DMark Wild Life Extreme - DDR4 - Use 3 different AMD APUs iGPU - Stage2 - 3DMark03 Integrated Chipset GPU - DDR2 - Use 2 different integrated chipset GPUs iGPU - Stage3 - 3DMark06 Integrated Chipset GPU - DDR3 - Use 2 different integrated chipset GPUs iGPU - Stage4 - Fire Strike GPU - DDR5 - Use 3 different GPU cores, desktop CPUs only! Memory sub-competitions Memory - Stage 1 - PYPrime DDR5 - Use 3 different memory brands and CPUs with different core counts. Memory - Stage 2 - SuperPi 32M DDR4 AMD - Use 3 different memory models and CPUs with a different core (Vermeer, Matisse,...). Memory - Stage 3 - X265 1080P DDR3 8GB - Use 3 different memory brands and a single CPU on a x79, P67 and P45 motherboard Memory - Stage 4 - Geekbench3 -DDR2 - Use 3 different memory brands and 3 different Dual Core CPUs. Memory - Stage 5 - SuperPi 16M DDR - Use 2 different memory brands and a single CPU on a Socket A, 754 or 939 socket. Memory - Stage 6- PiFast SDR - Use 2 different CPU, Older CPUZ versions allowed. Art design by DaQuteness 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) For some reason the Pifast and Firstrike iGPU stages don't specify the number of scores required, probably just an omission. I can see above in the OP that they should be 2/3 scores. Cheers for organising this comp, the stages are looking great! Edited July 27, 2022 by unityofsaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 hours ago, unityofsaints said: For some reason the Pifast and Firstrike iGPU stages don't specify the number of scores required, probably just an omission. I can see above in the OP that they should be 2/3 scores. Cheers for organising this comp, the stages are looking great! Firestrike seems unintentional, but perhaps for sdr one score is a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 28, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 28, 2022 Both had set 2 subs for SDRAM and 3 for Firestrike, I did not configure unique hardware, that's the only reason the amount of subs doesn't pop up... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingerYar Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Quote For the stages that require several results, different CPUs / GPUs / MEM types are needed (example: LGA1150 cpu bench with three results needs 4790, 4770K, 4690, if three different benchers submit three results with 4770k only one will count to the ranking) What about cooperative bench, like team uses same platform? It needs to be like "teammate #1 uses 4790 + memory kit #1", "teammate #2 uses 4770 + memory kit #2"... etc. Right? Is it ok to use same GPU, if it's a CPU benchmark, like Wprime32? Quote Intel - Stage1 - 3dMark Vantage CPU performance DDR4 - Use 3 different Core i5 CPUs from Sky, Kaby, Coffee, Rocket or Comet-Lake What about LGA 2066, like 7740X? HEDT is not allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 28, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 28, 2022 Core I5, sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykolay3ack Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Quote Intel - Stage3 - Wprime32 DDR2 - Use 3 different AllenDale 2M CPUs C2D E4700? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 28, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 28, 2022 yes those are the ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Core I5, sorry 8 hours ago, StingerYar said: What about LGA 2066, like 7740X? HEDT is not allowed? Current config allows 7640x because dB has it in kaby lake family 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykolay3ack Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: yes those are the ones... Sorry, I ask because the E4700 processor is classified by Conroe: https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core 2 Duo E4700 HH80557PG0642M (BX80557E4700).html There are also processors with dual classification Conroe|Allendale: E6300, E6400, E4200 https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core 2 Duo E6300 HH80557PH0362M (BX80557E6300).html Edited July 29, 2022 by MykolayZack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 29, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 29, 2022 We have them listed as Allendale 2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Pure Allendale core , never had a G0 stepping production. Ε4700 was a late production cpu , G0 stepping only ... odd cpu , that was probably a cut down version of a Kentsfield core. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineLearning Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, TASOS said: Pure Allendale core , never had a G0 stepping production. Ε4700 was a late production cpu , G0 stepping only ... odd cpu , that was probably a cut down version of a Kentsfield core. I second this, Allendale-2M should only be L2 & M0 cores. G0 = Conroe/Kentsfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 29, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 29, 2022 I just picked these CPUs as they are fun to bench and for once it is not about the wolfies, York or Kentsfields... For Database changes contact Gregor or Alex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I don't bench s775 at all but all the s755 homies in my circle are excited for Allendale, so bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Allendale is a funky core in terms of use consistency. 1) There are G0 versions of E2140 and E2160. Technically, these are Conroe-4M. Should these be allowed? I don't think it would matter. I tried thousands of these and haven't seen any that would have any competitive advantage over a good M0 chip. 2) There are L2/M0 versions of E6300, E6400, Xeon 3040 and Xeon 3050. Technically, these are Allendale-2M. Should these be allowed? I don't think it would matter either. Unless you are TAGG, you'll never find an L2/M0 that would bench above 4.5GHz so you're much better off running a random E2180+ / E4400+. I'd say just pick a random stance on either of these questions and no one should complain Edited July 29, 2022 by TaPaKaH 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Or just lock it to E2000 & E4000 series, that seems to be the intention after all. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Ban it all, make entire comp centaur hauls /s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 29, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 29, 2022 nope current format stays not adding other CPUs with maybe bigger cache... hunt them E4XXX... don't like it , plz skip stage... move to next one... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astoria Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) core allendale list from hwbot data-base only 800 mhz bus speed cpu Edited July 30, 2022 by astoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineLearning Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, astoria said: core allendale list from hwbot data-base only 800 mhz bus speed cpu Yes, but only E4x00 are valid for this category because of cache sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuentincc Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I agree that the E4700 shouldn't be allowed because it's not an Allendale core (needs delid to confirm it). As for Memory Stage 3, does memory ic count as the brand ? or only the PCB ? or only the SPD ? What about zombie stick ? Only stock/unmodified stick are allowed ? I think the valid needs the CPU-Z SPD reading of all the installed stick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 30, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 30, 2022 A brand is Corsair, G.Skill,... A Memory model is TridentZ, Ripjaws V Memory type is IC based, Hynix, Samsung,... We will go for CPUZ SPD tabs per module 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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