TiN Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Another bug No scores are worth mentioning. Get your team to benchmark more! more » all new entries » team info » Today's top benchmark scores. No benchmark scores are worth mentioning. It's a slow day, so it seems. Just uploaded Maxmem result, but it's not stated Happy 2010 to everybody, and thanks HWBot Crew for good gift for NY! We appreciate Made with freezelight on 29.DEC night (3 AM ) with photocam. No photoshop http://www.xdevs.com/images/ny2010/25.jpg Quote
Quentj Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 If you look at the same rank, that's not true. The best 50% get HW boints, so 7th and 12th should get the same 0.1 boints, but 5th will give a bit more. 50% get HW boints ? by HW boints, you mean more than 0.1pts, do you ? so why in a categorie with 73 scores, the 25th has only 0.1pts (and the 24th has 1.7pts...) ? Quote
Guest Shahryar_NEO - BaRaN Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANKS TO HWBOT Crew Quote
$@39@ Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Hmmmm........Did you guys got payed by NVIDIA?..... Reason I'm asking is SIMPLE: NVIDIA is about to brink to as their new GPUs which - GUESS - they are "SINGLE CORE GPUs" They will BEAT SINGLE ATI 5870 VGA for sure BUT NOT "easily" their 5970 one.... SO people will get the most hwpoints using them.... 5970 will be "worthless" THOUGH it'll get BIGGER numbers.... DID you got payed by NVIDIA?....... P.S. I'm with SOF on that..... hipro5 here from another computer........ Edited December 31, 2009 by $@39@ Quote
TheKarmakazi Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Hmmmm........Did you guys got payed by NVIDIA?..... Reason I'm asking is SIMPLE: NVIDIA is about to brink to as their new GPUs which - GUESS - they are "SINGLE CORE GPUs" They will BEAT SINGLE ATI 5870 VGA for sure BUT NOT "easily" their 5970 one.... SO people will get the most hwpoints using them.... 5970 will be "worthless" THOUGH it'll get BIGGER numbers.... DID you got payed by NVIDIA?....... P.S. I'm with SOF on that..... hipro5 here from another computer........ Sorry george I think that complaint is a bit silly. When nvidia release a dual gpu version of gt300 it will wreck 5970 also. single vs single, dual vs dual. You cant blame hwbot b/c nvidia makes a stronger card... Not to mention single core gt300 will never compete directly against 5970. gt300=single, 5970=multi. Quote
knopflerbruce Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 50% get HW boints ?by HW boints, you mean more than 0.1pts, do you ? so why in a categorie with 73 scores, the 25th has only 0.1pts (and the 24th has 1.7pts...) ? Could be a bug, I found some similar stuff in the A64 rankings. Is it a category for an old CPU or GPU? And I mean more than 0.1, yes (like 0.2 and above ) Quote
Bustah Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 its not updating todays scores...you probably already know. Quote
TiN Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Nobody from "regular" people have any Fermi cards. So only guess that Fermi will faster or slower than 5970. Also ATI have room there for some 5890, they haven't maxed out PCB design even yet, and have reserved space for extra VRM channels. But, why I'm talking this stuff, you should better know by yourself, dear engineer Or you have already few, Hipro5? Quote
Q56_Monster Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Is this the final point standings, or do you still have to do more work? I worked hard in December to add 100 points...now they're all gone! Edited December 31, 2009 by Q56_Monster Quote
fuzz3l Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Now time for reporting an bug... Do you changed the way showing the screenshot of the result? At the moment is it so that my Mac OS 10.6.2 download the picture to my local folder "Downloads" instead of opening it directly in Safari... But this is always the case, sometimes the pictures will be open in a Safari without downloading it to "Downloads"... Quote
Q56_Monster Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Sorry george I think that complaint is a bit silly. When nvidia release a dual gpu version of gt300 it will wreck 5970 also. single vs single, dual vs dual. You cant blame hwbot b/c nvidia makes a stronger card... Not to mention single core gt300 will never compete directly against 5970. gt300=single, 5970=multi. Doesn't matter if they are directly competing against each other or not...I think what hipro said was the single core card will get more points than the dual core and be more valuable here on hwbot. The same will hold true for the dual core gt300 when it arrives, I guess. It will be relegated to back of the line with the 5970. The single cores will dominate with points, even though they score significantly less on the benchmarks. I assume Hipro5 knows the new rules better than I, and if what he says is true, this stinks! Even picking up gold cups for lower generation models won't generate any points anymore. I guess to play on HWbot anymore you have to have the top of the line single core gpu on LN2. Us little guys are crushed. Quote
Warrior_oF_Byte Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I'll be honest... yesterday I had more than 200p , today, i have less than 120p. So, I think that is very fair because most of my points was with stock results, and these results has to be punished (with less points). So, if you want your points back, you need to start to bench, we need to full all empty rankings to get more points! I'd hope a lot of new challenges!!! It's a new begining to do better the things. Thanks for all that effort, and happy new year for everyone Peace! Quote
Q56_Monster Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I'll be honest... yesterday I had more than 200p , today, i have less than 120p. So, I think that is very fair because most of my points was with stock results, and these results has to be punished (with less points). So, if you want your points back, you need to start to bench, we need to full all empty rankings to get more points! I'd hope a lot of new challenges!!! It's a new begining to do better the things. Thanks for all that effort, and happy new year for everyone Peace! I'm glad you are happy with your point loss Quote
Matti OC Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 thanks to in Massman, it was a nicely time, but as well as now it is I will not continue. lg Matti OC Quote
Bartmasta Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 that's probably at least 5 people now that chose to stop benching because of the new rev Quote
OCPerformance Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 New score system is really bad, sorry. Rev.2 are better. Vmods und boards an cards, a good cooling like (h2o,chiller, light compressorcooling), time has invested and then they get only 0.1 points, no way, the motivation like ZERO. Quote
Crew Olesius Posted December 31, 2009 Crew Posted December 31, 2009 thanks to in Massman, it was a nicely time, but as well as now it is I will not continue. lg Matti OC Nice decision man!! maybe i do it... Maybe my friend do it too... My friend was #1 in Iran Overclockers ranking with 290p... http://hwbot.org/community/user/los_che http://hwbot.org/community/user/los_che?tab=stats now he got #7 with 84p...!! (276p has been lost!!!!!!!!!!!) Hwbot Rev3 is terrible............!! Quote
Splave Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 that's probably at least 5 people now that chose to stop benching because of the new rev i know 3 of my team might stop when I search the database with single card it still shows the 5970 and 4870x2 cards which should now be x2 correct? Quote
OCPerformance Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 that's probably at least 5 people now that chose to stop benching because of the new rev I know many people, who wants to stop with benching, because of new score system. Quote
bazx Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 not sure if this is a bug or me just being stupid how to i get a full list of my team mates Quote
knopflerbruce Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 There are a few bugs around... SOME of the low boint issues may be because of that. 50% of a hardware category will receive more than 0.1 boints, if the system works properly. Don't come here and tell me that half of the results are made on sub-zero cooling! In fact, air and water cooling benchers are the ones we thought about when we made the new rules... before only top 20 got boints, no matter if there were 10 or 1000 results, now that number is increased for most categories. There are MORE hardware boints to fight for than ever before, but of course you can't expect to be generously rewarded if you don't show some skill as well... Overclock the crap out of whatever you have, and see how high it goes. Quote
TheKarmakazi Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 that's probably at least 5 people now that chose to stop benching because of the new rev AFAIK people bench because they enjoy it. If hwbot went down forever tomorrow I would still bench. The competition just adds some more vareity and flavor to it. To stop benching b/c of this is stupid. If you stop participating in hwbot thats one thing, but to stop benching altogether? Quote
TheKarmakazi Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Doesn't matter if they are directly competing against each other or not...I think what hipro said was the single core card will get more points than the dual core and be more valuable here on hwbot. The same will hold true for the dual core gt300 when it arrives, I guess. It will be relegated to back of the line with the 5970. The single cores will dominate with points, even though they score significantly less on the benchmarks. Until more scores are submitted in the multi card category, yes dual gpu cards wont get as much global points. As the number of submissions grow so will the global points. I assume Hipro5 knows the new rules better than I, and if what he says is true, this stinks! Even picking up gold cups for lower generation models won't generate any points anymore. Incorrect, lower gen models are where some of the biggest points are to be won! (8800gt, 8800gtx, 7 & 6 series nvidia, 38xx, etcetcetc) I guess to play on HWbot anymore you have to have the top of the line single core gpu on LN2. Us little guys are crushed. Versus before when you had to have cpu on LN2 and 4x flagship top of the line gpus right? Nothing has changed... people on LN2 will still rule the ranks as they always have. Little guys arent crushed with this revision, in fact your awarded more since a greater number of the top submission in a category will now receive hwboints where they would not have before. Quote
Kal-EL Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 Everyone at Overclockaholics present and accounted for. We will continue to bench even if you stop giving points altogether. The thrill is catching the rabbit in front of you or being the rabbit. Everything else is bonus. Quote
Matti OC Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) please dear HWbot, think please always of it we are the community, without ourselves since her nothing. You kick the community with feet. This stinks here to the sky who determines the rules? Contrive something! thus it does not go on! sorry für mein schlechtes englisch Hier noch mal in deutsch: bitte lieber HWbot, denken Sie bitte immer daran wir sind die Gemeinschaft, ohne uns selbst seit Ihr nichts. Sie treten die Gemeinschaft mit Füßen. Das stinkt hier zum Himmel, wer bestimmt die Regeln? Erfinden Sie etwas! So geht es nicht weiter! lg Matti / ich hoffe mal, dass ich nicht gleich gebannt werde Edited January 1, 2010 by Matti OC Quote
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