Jimba Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 You mistake us with MMO players I knew i have a boo boo somewhere. is there such a thing as a fat overclocker? i thought everyone gets fit from running back and forth like a group of mad dogs chasing a ball all day.. Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 is there such a thing as a fat overclocker? Massman by definition and Dino against his will Quote
K404 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 LOL are you asking us to talk about who is fat? That would be unkind! Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 7, 2012 Crew Posted September 7, 2012 Massman by definition and Dino against his will You are so in trouble right now Ney :nana: Kuddos though for telling the truth, takes a man to do it !! Quote
jjjc Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I knew i have a boo boo somewhere. is there such a thing as a fat overclocker? i thought everyone gets fit from running back and forth like a group of mad dogs chasing a ball all day.. Is there such thing as a long piece of string? Quote
K404 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 There is no long or short, there is only sufficient or insufficient Quote
Christian Ney Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 We are talking about thongs right ? Quote
Eeky NoX Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Slippery slope Like it goes it will finish in a sauna or something like this before end of MOA ^^ Quote
K404 Posted September 13, 2012 Posted September 13, 2012 The font adds to the legitimacy! I only have MS paint Biggest font size was still tiny compared to the image. Quote
sin0822 Posted September 15, 2012 Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Your quote about 32 phases being 8x2x2, that isn't how it is being done on the UP7, it is much simpler than that. It does limit max switching frequency to 1/4 that of the PWM, but officially the IR3563A ca do 1.2mhz, but unofficially IR told me it can be set to do 2mhz. However you don't run IR3550 over 300KHz anyways. It is of course multiplexed, but not twice like it was in the past with the Z68X and P67A UD7. The UP7 uses 8x quadrouplers, IR3599. The way it is done is that in the end you have four sets of 8 phase VRMs. So you have 32 phases and when each phase is fired from the PWM one quadroupler turns on 1 of its phases, then next cycle it will turn on another, next cycle another, and the fourth cycle another. However this quadroupler chip also has the ability to turn on all 4 phases at 1 time, so that if the main PWM chooses to align all the phases then all 8 quadrouplers can turn on all 4 of their phases and total 32 phases. That is how GIGABYTE was able to get 2000W output out of that VRMs. However you can run the UP7's VRMs without heatsinks, and that is because in normal operation it just turns on each phases 1/32 over four cycles, like a giant 32 phase VRM, however in essence there are still only 8 phases on each cycle, but every 4 cycles you turn on each of the 32 phases. So if you measure over 4 cycles then you will see each IR3550 turn on once, unless some transient occurs where the PWM might shut off or turn on more phases than normal. That is what I got after i talked to IR and seeing how it actually works. Also with 32 phases you deff never want to run 4 on at one time, you just want 1 on at a time or else the switching loss would create a large amount of heat. When you get to so many phases, the loss from switching phases on is most likely larger than the loss from the work the MOSFETs do. Edited September 15, 2012 by sin0822 Quote
M.Beier Posted September 15, 2012 Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) snip Edited September 15, 2012 by M.Beier Quote
GENiEBEN Posted September 15, 2012 Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) @sin 1. TLDR past the first sentence. 2. It was about another manufacturer which used 40phases (8x2x2 +8), but ignored the +8 for the sake of readability 3. ROCK SOLID Isabella "Ivy" Valentine, for those who don't get the reference Edited September 15, 2012 by GENiEBEN Quote
Schmuckley Posted September 16, 2012 Posted September 16, 2012 @sin 1. TLDR past the first sentence. 2. It was about another manufacturer which used 40phases (8x2x2 +8), but ignored the +8 for the sake of readability 3. ROCK SOLID Isabella "Ivy" Valentine, for those who don't get the reference LoLz Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 @sin 1. TLDR past the first sentence. 2. It was about another manufacturer which used 40phases (8x2x2 +8), but ignored the +8 for the sake of readability 3. ROCK SOLID Isabella "Ivy" Valentine, for those who don't get the reference ^excellent job bringing this thread back on topic Quote
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