May 14, 20169 yr In some case the resistance is really low 0,5/0,6 in some cards. How much was before you had desoldered the inductor?
May 20, 20169 yr What is this mod for? I think its a volt mod but Ihave no idea,just picked up 2 480s that have the same mod done to them.
May 20, 20169 yr Looks like the clock chip? or something thats there normally? is missing though, is that normal for volt mod or Edited May 20, 20169 yr by Cavemanthe0ne
May 20, 20169 yr Looks like the clock chip? or something thats there normally? is missing though, is that normal for volt mod or Not sure what the mod is after a second look but that solder point looks to be for a oscillator crystal and it may or may not have had something there before
May 20, 20169 yr The model number on it is 015-p3-1480-br I dont see many of those models from evga around, not sure if that helps at all. I think the gtx 480 SOC did not have one of those chips,but most stock 480s did so im not sure what it is used for
December 7, 20168 yr I'm looking into vmodding an EVGA GTS 250 SC. Have the vgpu and vmem read points figured. Have the vmem mod on the uP6161N figured. But I'm at a loss for what to do with the NCP5388. Would appreciate any help/direction you might be able to offer. Thanks!
December 7, 20168 yr NCP5388 is one of the "evil" pwm ,not many can manage to pass over his OVP:D FB is pin19 , at ~ 1.3v ocp will trigger , if you lowering in half the ressistance between ILIM (pin 12)and ROSC(pin12) you will earn another ~50mv , till OVP will trigger ...and game is over! when you see NCP on the card´s zombified them quickly
December 7, 20168 yr Ugh - so in other words, not worth my trouble to get +0.1 to +0.15. Thanks guys!
December 8, 20168 yr NCP5388 is one of the "evil" pwm ,not many can manage to pass over his OVP:D FB is pin19 , at ~ 1.3v ocp will trigger , if you lowering in half the ressistance between ILIM (pin 12)and ROSC(pin12) you will earn another ~50mv , till OVP will trigger ...and game is over! when you see NCP on the card´s zombified them quickly In the datasheet for the NCP5388 it says that the ILIM pin: "Over current shutdown threshold. To program the shutdown threshold, connect this pin to the ROSC pin via a resistor divider as shown in the Applications Schematics. To disable the over current feature connect this pin directly to the ROSC pin. To guarantee correct operation, this pin should only be connected to the voltage generated by the ROSC pin – do not connect this pin to any externally generated voltages." So if you short ILIM(pin 13) to ROSC(pin 12) it should disable OCP. Here's the datasheet: http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/NCP5388-D.PDF On the topic of OVP it says: "The OVP circuit monitors the output of DIFFOUT. If the DIFFOUT signal reaches 180 mV above the nominal 1.3 V offset the OVP will trip. The DIFFOUT signal is the difference between the output voltage and the DAC voltage plus the 1.3 V internal offset. This results in the OVP tracking the DAC voltage even during a dynamic change in the VID setting during operation." The thing is I don't see how the NCP5388 could possibly know what voltage the VRM is putting out if you go and mod the VS+ instead of VFB. Admittedly VS+ goes straight to VCC but I bet you can cut the trace for it somewhere and then feed it a skewed voltage reading through a potentiometer to get the voltages that you actually want. That's what I would try before going full zombie at least.
December 8, 20168 yr In the datasheet for the NCP5388 it says that the ILIM pin: "Over current shutdown threshold. To program the shutdown threshold, connect this pin to the ROSC pin via a resistor divider as shown in the Applications Schematics. To disable the over current feature connect this pin directly to the ROSC pin. To guarantee correct operation, this pin should only be connected to the voltage generated by the ROSC pin – do not connect this pin to any externally generated voltages." So if you short ILIM(pin 13) to ROSC(pin 12) it should disable OCP. Here's the datasheet: http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/NCP5388-D.PDF On the topic of OVP it says: "The OVP circuit monitors the output of DIFFOUT. If the DIFFOUT signal reaches 180 mV above the nominal 1.3 V offset the OVP will trip. The DIFFOUT signal is the difference between the output voltage and the DAC voltage plus the 1.3 V internal offset. This results in the OVP tracking the DAC voltage even during a dynamic change in the VID setting during operation." The thing is I don't see how the NCP5388 could possibly know what voltage the VRM is putting out if you go and mod the VS+ instead of VFB. Admittedly VS+ goes straight to VCC but I bet you can cut the trace for it somewhere and then feed it a skewed voltage reading through a potentiometer to get the voltages that you actually want. That's what I would try before going full zombie at least. i tryed that few years back and only way is VID mod no other way , that way i vid moddded my all cards directly when OVP trip , that is the ONLY WAY to aviod ovp:D
December 8, 20168 yr Yes, true. All/most custom Gainward and Asus PCB use one of these NCP controllers and the only way is VID mod. Probably others too, but that's what I had. It's not that hard and in most cases you don't want to support all possible VIDs anyway. Sometimes not all VID pins have exposed resistor, they are just grounded. Maybe there's another way, but this is the most reliable one. After VID-modding the card there's no OVP anymore on the ones I've modded. Edited December 8, 20168 yr by I.nfraR.ed
December 15, 20168 yr Are vid tables standardised or are they different from card to card? because if the former you could use the datasheet posted above
December 16, 20168 yr Given it has 8 vid pins I'm guessing it uses the vr11 vid table shown here https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.intel.com/Assets/en_US/PDF/designguide/321736.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiG6MCyv_jQAhVQtJQKHdCtBIkQFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNEI-oZwSVf5jo5KHV4bKHHLxvWAfw&sig2=ZT_-yj8HBe42eyVjs1Zfvg Cross reference the stock voltage of you card to this table and see if it matches the VID pins shorted on the card
December 16, 20168 yr Given it has 8 vid pins I'm guessing it uses the vr11 vid table shown here https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.intel.com/Assets/en_US/PDF/designguide/321736.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiG6MCyv_jQAhVQtJQKHdCtBIkQFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNEI-oZwSVf5jo5KHV4bKHHLxvWAfw&sig2=ZT_-yj8HBe42eyVjs1Zfvg Cross reference the stock voltage of you card to this table and see if it matches the VID pins shorted on the card I'm gonna check it
January 23, 20178 yr Hey guys! I'm Duality92 from Overclock.net. I'm trying to figure out something new and if one can figure it out, it could possibly mean new heights with FM2+. As we all know, FM2+ is limited with it's TDP. Could we eliminate this with a mod? I've opened up a thread on Overclock.net, but I will post all relevant information and pictures here. Now, like shunt mods on graphic cards, can I do this on my board? If so, what do I need to do? I want to achieve new heights with this platform. Is an actual volt mod needed? Motherboard http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4341/G0tODf.jpg Controller http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/pb-ir3567b.pdf?fileId=5546d462533600a4015356803a7228ef IR3567B - Infineon Technologies Controller placement http://cdn.overclock.net/a/aa/aa5ad562_IMG_20170118_065112.jpeg Controller pin layout http://cdn.overclock.net/2/22/22f53145_3567B.png Back of the motherboard (to show there isn't anything very relevant) http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ae/ae9911be_IMG_20170118_065230.jpeg *Note* Rules request that I host the picture here, but there isn't any options for me to upload anything.
January 25, 20178 yr Fm2+ is most definitely not tdp limited as I've run it at 1.8-2v with all cores running cinebench without a issue If you are having problems with tdp it should have an option to disable it the bios unless you are using something like the athlon 845 which is tdp limited no matter what The F2A88XN-wifi is one of the best fm2+ boards I've used and it doesn't any issues running 2v+ under load as it has extremely high end power delivery on the cpu/nb despite being 4+2 phase Edited January 25, 20178 yr by newlife
January 25, 20178 yr I'd like to send you a PM, but it seems I can't. Not sure if it's because I'm "new" here or if it's the forums, so I'll just ask here. Fm2+ is most definitely not tdp limited as I've run it at 1.8-2v with all cores running cinebench without a issue If you are having problems with tdp it should have an option to disable it the bios unless you are using something like the athlon 845 which is tdp limited no matter what The F2A88XN-wifi is one of the best fm2+ boards I've used and it doesn't any issues running 2v+ under load as it has extremely high end power delivery on the cpu/nb despite being 4+2 phase Wow, that's great news, I didn't even know. I'll be running a modded BIOS along with 2400/10 Samsung HYK0 Trident X (2*8GB) on this board. Since CPU is under water with a 280mm XT45, what kind of voltage to do you think I can run safely? (coming from a guy who runs his 6600K at 1.488V load 24/7). 1.55? 1.6? I'll figure out the rest when I get this under water edit : you can send me a PM on Overclock.net if you wish (user Duality92) Edited January 25, 20178 yr by dualityyy
April 9, 20178 yr Hi, Idk, if this still active, but this seems like my best shot. I got custom quadro k4000, won from a competition. Which is really weird card, because it has 4 gigs of vram (instead of 3 gigs) has no external 6 or 8 pin (casually has 1 6 pin). I've found out that it uses NCP81172 from semiconductor as pwm controller. Got datasheet and where is feedback pin on pcb. It seems like it has two resistors and one capacitor connected. I'm not sure where to put my potentiometer. Also found shunt resistors, where im gonna put an molex connector to increase power and I think it considered as pcie power in bios. Correct me on that if im wrong. It would be really nice if someone can help me with it. I attached datasheet and common application and also photo of pcb. All in all this seems doable but im really new in computer stuff but im good with electronics so got pretty good soldering skills.
April 10, 20178 yr Either you have the wrong pwm or soldering to wrong place or fb just doesn't work but VID mod should work as you just need to short vid pins based on table in datasheet (conductive pen/liquid metal will work or even a DIP switch for easy adjustments)
January 11, 20187 yr This thread is a bit quiet. Anyone have access to the VT235WF datasheet? I need it for memory voltage control on my GTX 260 216sp 65nm card. Thanks in advance. Edit: that's the mosfet apparently. (facepalm) It was the only thing which looked like a controller other than the VT1165 on core. But apparently this is the GTX 280 PCB and there is no visible mem controller. Edited January 12, 20187 yr by Noxinite
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