rtsurfer Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 George is right. I meant quantity. No complaints as to quality. Too many newbie submissions with CPU freq as mem freq that hung around for far too long. Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 12, 2018 Members Posted July 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: you volunteering son ? I know that was to splave but I'd be happy to help if I can Quote
Casanova Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Achill3uS said: i would make one dramatic change, completely disable the whole pointing system to all extreme cooling submissions. to ambient i dont want to give any advice at all, but i do believe that no need any kind of pointing system to prove each other or to the supporters that youre up or down on a list with 2 points by the next day, your results and their ranking (ofc keeping the cups tho) speaks for themselves anyway. the simple the better, no more weeping about 3d or 2d points comparison. its not enough competitive for you? go to ocesports and join a country cup or whatever. its not the first time to see ocers losing the motivation and not uploading their results to hwbot. it really needs to worked out somehow to bring the willing back to people to upload their results. keeping the database up to date is much more important than rewarding. thats my 2 cents. This. Although i still think that 3d benchers should earn more points if u want to keep the point system, simple because who knows how to bench 3d knows 2d too (almost every good 3d overclocker started with 2d). Also, disable points for old 3d benchmarks (ok maybe keep 3dm03) just because they became 2d benchmarks... It's really strange to see guys in the top 20 world ranking who never touched a soldering iron to mod their own hardware... Edited July 12, 2018 by Casanova Quote
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Dancop said: Rev. 7! which part do you find the worst Quote
Dancop Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 Focus on competitions. Then, why do we have different point calculation for World ranking and elite ranking? Why is a 4way score worth more, than a wr with 2 cards? And some more things... Hw related... 1 Quote
Remarc Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 the distribution of points according to the type of cooling,that the ln2/dry ice etc is did not compete with air/water Quote
jessec0626 Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 If I could change any one thing about HWbot, it would be my username. Lol I have messaged certain people, but for some reason I have not gotten a reply or anything. Just saying. 1 Quote
Mr.Scott Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 Quote If you could change 1 thing on hwbot what would it be? 2 Leagues. 1) Pro/sponsored 2) Everybody else Cooling method and time served does not matter. Want to move up in the standings?, pick up your game. Period. 4 Quote
zeropluszero Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, richba5tard said: Well our last contractual obligations have ended recently, so I'm no longer under legal obligation to focus on oc-esports competitions. That gives us much more options to clean house than in the past. ? Yeh but are you actually going to do it? And then when you do, which group will that inflame? And then when we have a two day flame war in the forum, and eventually it gets locked, how many times will you do that til you're sick of it? When does the hwbot.org domain expire lol Quote
zeropluszero Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr.Scott said: 2 Leagues. 1) Pro/sponsored 2) Everybody else Cooling method and time served does not matter. Want to move up in the standings?, pick up your game. Period. If I had to really pick one, this is the right one. Quote
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Posted July 12, 2018 I think i would kill all benches that dont have a wrapper and or valid link required for all scores not just top 10. That's like saying we dont want you to cheat hard enough to be in the top 10 but 11th is fine. 5 Quote
GtiJason Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) I think if we want XOC/HWBot to survive we need to make it easier for new guys to join, I have several friends interested but as soon as they see all the different OS's needed and restrictions that's the end of it. As much as I'd hate to see certain benchmarks go, it may be a necessity. Potential new members want to see a fair, and easy to use platform. I think Allen nailed it when he said benchmarks with wrapper or valid link Edited July 12, 2018 by GtiJason 1 2 Quote
Casanova Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Splave said: I think i would kill all benches that dont have a wrapper and or valid link required for all scores not just top 10. That's like saying we dont want you to cheat hard enough to be in the top 10 but 11th is fine. Totally agree. Quote
Casanova Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, GtiJason said: I think if we want XOC/HWBot to survive we need to make it easier for new guys to join, I have several friends interested but as soon as they see all the different OS's needed and restrictions that's the end of it. As much as I'd hate to see certain benchmarks go, it may be a necessity. Potential new members want to see a fair, and easy to use platform. I think Allen nailed it when he said benchmarks with wrapper or valid link Agree with making it easy for new members only. Quote
zeropluszero Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, GtiJason said: I think if we want XOC/HWBot to survive we need to make it easier for new guys to join, I have several friends interested but as soon as they see all the different OS's needed and restrictions that's the end of it. As much as I'd hate to see certain benchmarks go, it may be a necessity. Potential new members want to see a fair, and easy to use platform. I think Allen nailed it when he said benchmarks with wrapper or valid link So you want us to have nothing but Timespy and XTU? I went to a local comp doing 32M and 01 back in the day with a 5.7 sandy bridge, and got fucking destroyed by Fester doing like 5.3. Did I cry about it? Yes. did I go do some research into how he beat me? Yes. 2 Quote
Mr.Scott Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Splave said: Anyone like anything about hwbot? I enjoy the team comps. 6 Quote
GtiJason Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, zeropluszero said: So you want us to have nothing but Timespy and XTU? I went to a local comp doing 32M and 01 back in the day with a 5.7 sandy bridge, and got fucking destroyed by Fester doing like 5.3. Did I cry about it? Yes. did I go do some research into how he beat me? Yes. No, that's not the point I was making. It obviously wouldn't happen overnight and I don't claim to have all the answers but things have become too complicated to attract new blood. Over the last 5 years I have seen a lot of guys disappear and only a handful of truly dedicated new entries and over that time with 3 rev changes (I think) things have become worse, not easier. 32m is my bench and I have spent countless hours teaching friends and teamates how to run it properly but if we can't attract new benchers and the current base is slowly leaving super pi won't matter anymore when there is no one left to bench it Quote
zeropluszero Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 9 hours ago, Splave said: Also choose 1 thing you like Name & Flame threads. 1 Quote
Casanova Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 The thing is: we are living an e-sports and mining generation, and since 90's i can't remember hardware parts being so discussed and show on TV like the last 2 years. On the oposite, Hwbot does not have any other site to compete against, however the last 2 years was really bad in terms of overclock community, mainly here. XS is also a huge database of information about overclock, but o don't see many movement in there too... I don't have a solution, but i think overclock community is loosing a good chance to grow. Quote
marco.is.not.80 Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) What I love about HWBot: I mean, I joined a team that only had one guy in it and he is a human slinky. Name one place - I'll say it again - name one place where I could've done that other than the bot? Ok, more than one. I thought I knew a lot about tweaking systems and making them run fast. Turns out, I didn't know nothing until I caught the bot bug and found myself having to figure out how the guy ahead of me pulled it off. That hasn't changed. What I would change: I'd love to have just one ranking instead of where I place in the world, where I place in the USA and where I place in my league. Edited July 14, 2018 by Leeghoofd 3 Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 13, 2018 Members Posted July 13, 2018 +1 to a unified ranking system, regardless of what algorithmic changes take place. I like seeing place in team/country/world etc for easy of use, but having them all being related to the same ranking would certainly simplify things. Quote
Xtreme Addict Posted July 13, 2018 Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) I find it somehow similar... and we all know how it ends Edited July 13, 2018 by Xtreme Addict 1 Quote
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