flanker Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Can be new better score as backup in my hadns, example some months and after public it first starting score? Thants mean, in this old better results on screenshot will be CPUZ 1.91, but after half of year (as example) will exists new CPUZ versions :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 8, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 8, 2020 than its classified as a backup score, you submit it and mention it is a backup score (higher than your previous one ofc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obijuan83 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I thought that we should have date and mandatory use of cpuz 1.91...I see lot of scores submitted dont have cpuz 1.91 and the rule of date disappeared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 10, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) They are backup scores, official rules are laid down like the OP is: New 2020 scores: a full size verification screen (meaning no cropping), mandatory usage of CPU-Z 1.91 or Legacy CPU-Z (or more recent). Exception: on old legacy platforms (Socket A and variants ) older CPUZ versions are still allowed. If unsure crosscheck with the moderators Submitting Backup scores: No edit of older score is allowed. The newly submitted backup score must be higher than the old score. Advise a moderator or mention in the comments box that it’s a backup score: e.g. “backup score found on Websmile's USB dongle” The date implementation was a proposal, but not fully supported and required by the community Edited January 10, 2020 by Leeghoofd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obijuan83 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Ok so give someone has 1.90 cpuz at screen is it valid for 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 11, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) depends: 1) if you never benched this hardware and did not do any submission with it before, you are requires to use at least version CPUZ 1.91 (or newer) 2) If you did this score in 2019 (or earlier) and you already submitted a (s)lower score with it before the 9th of January 2020, it is considered as a backup score. Either you sub it and mention it is a backup score in the comments box Or you PM the moderators with a link to the previous old score. This was the only fair way to approach in a soft manner the happenings of early this year. Without being too restrictive in a way a screenshot has to be made. It is a lot of extra work for the moderators and if you spot wrong submissions plz report them via the REPORT button. Edited January 11, 2020 by Leeghoofd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsglobetrotter Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 would suggest the easiest way to ensure it is 2020 scores used besides no cropped versions is to have a mandatory HWBOT 2020 background for all submissions that is not used in competitions. Then its very obvious it is this years submissions.it would be very easy to spot the "backup submissions". Meanwhile I would put a hard date on "backup submission" after which they are not admissible. Afterall 2020 scores should be .. 2020 made. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Hi. was screenshot cropping allowed before january 8 ? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 12, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 12, 2020 yes, it was allowed Anyway we just imposed no screenshot cropping for the competitions last year , so this is a logic evolution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 18, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) Moderation Team will be flexible and advise users if they still subbed with 1.90... Edited January 18, 2020 by Leeghoofd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I've never liked cropped screenshots, so this is not a change for me. I've never not updated to the latest version of CPU-Z, so again... not a change for me. But, I'd be lying if I didn't say I am not curious what the rationale is behind requiring CPU-Z 1.91 or later. What's up with that? I'm sure it wasn't just for giggles. Mind sharing why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 19, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 19, 2020 CPUZ 1.91 was released on December last year, so it related to newer scores than eg if scores pop up with far older versions of CPUZ. Also the load is higher with 1.91 so validation is not as easy as with older versions sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 @leeghoofd - thanks for the explanation. The fact that 1.91 validation is more difficult makes sense. I had not thought of that. I appreciate the reply. Now it doesn't rub me the wrong way. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Rush Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Goodbye sandbaggers (at least the ones that have old screenshots so far) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 9:17 PM, Leeghoofd said: CPUZ 1.91 was released on December last year, so it related to newer scores than eg if scores pop up with far older versions of CPUZ. Also the load is higher with 1.91 so validation is not as easy as with older versions sadly ohhh that explains some behaviour I saw benching the other day then I thought I was losing my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 2, 2020 Crew Share Posted February 2, 2020 Seems people still are unaware or play the game... over 40 subs removed today covering CPUZ from 1.87 till 1.90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzk Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 9:38 PM, Leeghoofd said: New 2020 scores: a full size verification screen (meaning no cropping), mandatory usage of CPU-Z 1.91 or Legacy CPU-Z (or more recent). Exception: on old legacy platforms (Socket A and variants ) older CPUZ versions are still allowed. If unsure crosscheck with the moderators As i'm mostly (or only) benching Socket A: Which CPU-Z version is acceptable for you? I've seen v1.59 being mentioned a few times on other sites... I also haven't tried to validate a score with such an old cpu-z version... Will that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 17, 2020 Crew Share Posted April 17, 2020 for socket A and co just let me know what works. I think we did 1.80ish for Teamcup in 2018 For the CPUZ validation part I fear anything older than 1.90 might not work anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Whatever changes were done between versions 1.59 and 1.60 is when these issues appeared. There was an obvious reworking aside from adding support for newer chips to the util and that's probrably the root of it here. Some boards still work with it, many do not anymore and I've had nothing but headaches with anything from 1.60 and later. 1.59 is the latest that will work without issue with any Socket A system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Bones said: 1.59 is the latest that will work without issue with any Socket A system. That's not exactly true. I have socket A subs with 1.7x, 1.8x, and I'm pretty sure 1.9x CPUz versions. I see many others with them also. To be perfectly honest here, I have never had any of the CPUz issues that everybody complains about. I would suggest you mind what you're trimming on your OS's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbjaust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On Windows XP SP2, fresh install using an Athlon XP-M on an Abit AN7 CPU-Z 1.91 just hangs the OS at the Processor detection stage. A reset is the only option to recover and CPU-Z 1.59 is needed to avoid the lock up. Conversely on the same system running Server 2003 R2 SP2 CPU-Z 1.91 works just fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr.Scott said: That's not exactly true. I have socket A subs with 1.7x, 1.8x, and I'm pretty sure 1.9x CPUz versions. I see many others with them also. To be perfectly honest here, I have never had any of the CPUz issues that everybody complains about. I would suggest you mind what you're trimming on your OS's. Does it even with a stock install (non-stripped OS) directly from a factory XP disk. I've already seen that you've had much better luck with later versions - I do not know what's causing it all but that's how it's been for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzk Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) On 4/18/2020 at 12:15 AM, cbjaust said: CPU-Z 1.91 just hangs the OS at the Processor detection stage. Yep. Interestingly i've had CPU-Z v1.91 working on my XP setup before and was able to validate at 250Mhz FSB+. Now it just freezes the system at the Processor detection stage (15% loading), even when underclocked to 166x10. I haven't made any changes to the system in the meantime besides a few reboots. So no clue what happend to cause these issues... v1.59 still works as expected though. My XP isn't tweaked, it's basically factory installed. Edited April 20, 2020 by Tzk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redratamd Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I've got score non posted since 2010. If i post. I don't want points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted May 20, 2020 Crew Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, redratamd said: I've got score non posted since 2010. If i post. I don't want points. you can select I down't want points for this submission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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