dinos22 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 i would ban all Australians, you should see how much sand they have over there. just ask our sponsor lance Armstrong Lol apparently Adelaide asked for the keys of their city back from him lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chispy Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hmmmm ... dafok happened ? ... huh ... ahh ... well , I just loggin after a well deserved brake with my family and to find this mess lol , why so much Drama ? is only a competition , Let's spread around the Joy and Christmas spirit ! guys just have fun with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunGod Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Not urs. GunGod reported a ton of submissions including one of me and also dino. So it affected the ranking quite a lot. We have to discuss this first internally tho. Yep you are right it was just after i read this: http://www.futuremark.com/downloads/3DMark_Technical_Guide.pdf No hard feelings bro, look page 21 for details. Briefly 1.0 has issues exactly using multiple gpu's. Edited December 24, 2013 by GunGod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GF]Duke Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 That says the newer version1.1 should score higher than the old one 1.0. Soo the scores could/should be better than the ones posted. No reason at all to pull them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 We benched single cards as well so really there's no impact at all then....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 So when is a decision coming? Already taken a few days, now it's Xmas, comp ends in a couple of days.......what's the call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 what's the call? I don't know about the rest of staff, but all I can say is relax and empty all the bottles of alcohol you could find as it is Xmas! Bottles with missing labels will NOT be reported.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 lol sure, but after days and weeks of benching it would be great for everyone to know where things are at! I understand the dilemma the hwbot crew are in through no fault of their own, but someone needs to make a call. At least a commitment to when it will be resolved is a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquzz Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I don't know about the rest of staff, but all I can say is relax and empty all the bottles of alcohol you could find as it is Xmas!Bottles with missing labels will NOT be reported.... Hear hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 So i must drink again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Yep you are right it was just after i read this:http://www.futuremark.com/downloads/3DMark_Technical_Guide.pdf No hard feelings bro, look page 21 for details. Briefly 1.0 has issues exactly using multiple gpu's. I just really dislike the fact that you reported the submissions few hours after the contest was over and I guess you did not just realise this at exactly this moment? Real sportsmanship would be to let guys know that there could be a mistake. Especially if there are a lot of results and you apparently went through every single top result and checked the version and reported it. My GTX 570 result (first setup with 3770K and therefor lower score) was uploaded on 2nd of November and I already used v1.0 there. That's a timeframe of almost two months.... And now it turns out that the issue with v1.0 is multi GPU related and we did a single GPU benchmark. I don't even find words for that really. So when is a decision coming? Already taken a few days, now it's Xmas, comp ends in a couple of days.......what's the call? Christian Ney is head of Moderation and has the final decision. I texted him this morning and he said he'd look into it this evening, so it's just a matter of hours. I'm pretty confident tho that the results will be moved back to the competition as the 1.0 "issue" is just affecting multi GPU scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunGod Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I just really dislike the fact that you reported the submissions few hours after the contest was over and I guess you did not just realise this at exactly this moment? Real sportsmanship would be to let guys know that there could be a mistake. Especially if there are a lot of results and you apparently went through every single top result and checked the version and reported it. My GTX 570 result (first setup with 3770K and therefor lower score) was uploaded on 2nd of November and I already used v1.0 there. That's a timeframe of almost two months....And now it turns out that the issue with v1.0 is multi GPU related and we did a single GPU benchmark. I don't even find words for that really. Nope i notice this just before copmpetition ends while i was trying improve my performance. If i noticed this early i should warn ya for sure. About top scores you are wrong again, our team wont have any benefits from this cuz we know more than 2 weeks ago that we will not have result with 3rd card (GTX 670) and stage is lost. I mention reason why futuremark make 1.1 not why 1.0 is not allowed on hwbot, after all rules are for all even if you not know them or i am wrong again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t8y Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Multi card. LOL. Can't say I've read that PDF like you but that part seems pretty relevant here, no? Back to Xmas, surely nothing to worry about here now, cheers for the distraction though. Have a good one everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted December 25, 2013 Administrators Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Erm, the PDF is not the problem... - the problem is hwbot rule http://www.hwbot.org/news/9044_application_51_rules/ - you don´t have to google pdfs to read this . I have no idea why this rule has been made, maybe because of multi-gpu issues, maybe because of test of staff-members showing irregularities, but it is on since february 2013 if changelog is correct. All this irritation could have been prevented if someone would have known the rules, including staff obviously - just my two cents P.S. Have a nice holiday season everyone Edited December 25, 2013 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Bit odd to see such a long delay in sorting this out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Good news guys Submissions will be linked back to the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 That is a sensible decision. Thanks for the update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjc Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Good decision, all guys deserve it! Tip for future (from my experience) - I ALWAYS check before the bench session rules for benchmark, versions and so on, just in case, I guess it's a good habit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I checked those results now: http://hwbot.org/submission/2470180_bmbenx_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_570_29127_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2470144_yudhiagust_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_670_32927_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2470074_dinos22_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_570_34023_marks Please let me know if I missed a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunGod Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Not seen the point changing rules because ppl dont read them, what else we can ignore and expect in future ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquzz Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Not seen the point changing rules because ppl dont read them, what else we can ignore and expect in future ? Sometimes you just have to be a little flexible when doing competitions like this. This is the most logical and sensible decision. Next year I'm sure hwbot staff will include allowed versions in competition rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Thats only fair, great choise Hwbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) It seems like you don't see a lot of points. If you're the rules-hero here you should know about this part: HWBOT moderators may apply a not suspicious exception when moderating scores which do not earn global points. When a submission has minor mistakes or incomplete verification, it does not mean by definition it has to be blocked by a moderator. If these submissions are not suspicious in any way, and do not receive global points, the moderator has the right to approve them. This rule is to prevent users reporting each and every submission which have minor mistakes, in order to get a better rank for their own submission. Reporting submissions which are not suspicious but have minor mistakes is against the fair play spirit, and abuse of the reporting functionality will be acted upon. The submissions only have a different version which does not affect the final score so there is no reason at all to block them. Even if they are against the rules. Those competitions are for fun and there is absolutely no reason to disappoint so many people for no reason. Edited December 25, 2013 by der8auer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yudhiagust Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I checked those results now: http://hwbot.org/submission/2470180_bmbenx_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_570_29127_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2470144_yudhiagust_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_670_32927_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2470074_dinos22_3dmark___cloud_gate_geforce_gtx_570_34023_marks Please let me know if I missed a result. thanks der8auer and all hwbot staff.. good news.. now i can eat my food peacefully.. will read the rules more closely from now on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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