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The Dual OC has a custom PCB that is different than reference and Strix. I could not find a compatible boardview file, but there might be some other model that uses same/similar PCB. It's my first touch with AMD card newer than HD7970 and I didn't even know what I'm buying, but this particular model seems to be a popular amongst miners in my country. The PCB exposes convenient I2C pads for the main PWM controller and also additional pads for hotwire (vcore, vmem, vddci). To enable hotwire functions, I had to bridge some pads for the different rails, otherwise the pads are disconnected and you can only use the measuring points. - I2C connection to ASP1300 - it's a relabelled IR3567B and EVC2 has full support - bridge pads marked in red to enable OVM and OVCI pins. For example, to control memory voltage with EVC, connect a GND point to GND on EVC, OVM to SRC1 and VDDM to VIN1, then use feedback mode in the software. It should be possible to use a regular hardware mod with a variable resistor (trimpot), but you need to connect one leg to OVM and the other one to GND. Always measure voltage under load. The core pads are on the back of the card, but that's unnecessary if you're going to use the I2C pads for the main PWM. Edit: Replaced images

1. I prefer the old cup and medal design over the current one. They were more shiny, 3-Dimensional and simply more appealing than the current flat look. Reduction of details is a modern sin, please let them have Identity. 2. Displayed position of Rank is missing in tables on the team site and propably more. Just wastes time to count the rows each times. See 1st pic for example. 3. In Portrait mode or smaller windowed mode the entire menu bar right from "Home" dissapears. Makes the bot unusable on rotated monitors even in full hd full screen use. I prefer this display method to watch lists. It would be great if that could get fixed. See 2nd pic. Edit: denvys5 described it in detail 4. +1 to the request of giving back the table for a log of a users own results in a specific benchmark. Seeing improvement of runs and racing/comparing against my own hardware is a key feature of why I loved using hwbot. 5. Im happy the achievement Display works now Thanks for the work and I understand that a general overhaul was needed to keep everything alive. Right now its just unfortunate that hwbot is below the old standart of features and usability. Also didnt see the call for volunteers. A post on the discord announcement channel would have been very justified. I want the bot to get up on its legs again as qick as possible. How can I help? Not a programmer, but I have a backround in Media Design and well... quite some time to test stuff. If you need a hand in that let me know.

1. Would it be possible to highlight the "Submit" botton again like in the old design? It is by far the most important button in this menu bar after all. 2. Also on the old design there was a section on the bottom right showing previous scores with that bench and hardware combo for you. Required login of course but very useful for things like 32M where you may run it cold over many months or years and want to reference back to previous attempts. 3. The "used in other benchmarks" section was also quite useful, would let you easily find the iGPU associated with a CPU or get a sense of whether a particular motherboard is good for 2D benching: 4. On the submission search page there used to be a way to sort by points, not only score. Are there any plans to bring that back?

Since the old updater is obsolete now, here's my current procedure. Most have been posted by @Sebyon discord. The ISO should work for AM4 and AM5. # Prerequisites Clean official Windows 7 SP1 ISO without cumulative updates. I use en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso. You can find it by googling for the name or the checksum. MD5: c9f7ecb768acb82daacf5030e14b271e I think these are the official checksums CRC32: 992B8FCD MD5: C9F7ECB768ACB82DAACF5030E14B271E SHA-1: 36AE90DEFBAD9D9539E649B193AE573B77A71C83 SHA-256: 36F4FA2416D0982697AB106E3A72D2E120DBCDB6CC54FD3906D06120D0653808 To check the MD5 has of the downloaded file, open a cmd in the directory and run certutil -hashfile en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso MD5 Windows 10 x64 ISO of choice, we will use install.wim from the Windows 7 ISO and replace it in the Win10 ISO 30GB free space Update Pack: https://update7.simplix.info/UpdatePack7R2+.exe Drivers: Asus: AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_ASUS_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z Others: AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z # Preparation I would create a folder in C:\, e.g. "AM5" for simplicity. Also create a new directory in C:\AM5 with the name "offline". Extract with 7zip the en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso to its own directory in the newly created AM5 directory Extract drivers, I will use as an example AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z to the same AM5 directory Copy UpdatePack7R2+.exe into AM5 and run it, this will download the latest updater pack. # Remove image editions I will remove all image editions, except Ultimate, but you can leave another edition of choice. The ISO contains 4 editions with their indices 1. Home Basic 2. Home Premium 3. Professional 4. Ultimate Open an elevated command prompt in C:\AM5\ Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Note that when deleting an index, remaing editions change their indicies. To leave just the Ultimate, we run the above command 2 more times Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Now Ultimate edition is with index 1. # Add Updates copy UpdatePack7R2-24.12.12.exe C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\ cd C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources Run the command and wait for the update process to complete UpdatePack7R2-24.12.12.exe /WimFile="C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332/sources/install.wim" /Index=1 /Optimize # Add Drivers - Mount the image Dism /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index=1 /MountDir:C:\AM5\offline - Integrate the drivers Dism /Image:C:\AM5\offline /Add-Driver /Driver:"C:\AM5\AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G" /Recurse /forceunsigned or Dism /Image:C:\AM5\offline /Add-Driver /Driver:"C:\AM5\AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_ASUS_Win7_64_SHA256_G" /Recurse /forceunsigned for ASUS, but I've also used the first ones succesfully on my Gene - Verify drivers are listed (optional) Dism /Image:"C:\AM5\offline" /Get-Drivers - Save changes to the image and unmount Dism /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"C:\AM5\offline" /Commit # Create new ISO At this point you can copy/move en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim and install_Windows 7 ULTIMATE.clg to the root of AM5 directory and delete en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332 - Extract Windows 10 ISO with 7zip in the AM5 directory, I've used Win10_22H2_English_x64.iso and renamed as "test" - Copy modified install.wim and install_Windows 7 ULTIMATE.clg to test\sources and replace existing file(s) - Create new ISO with some app, I've used ImgBurn or WinAIO Maker Professional Test it and if it installs successfully, you can start trimming it manually or with tools like NTLite. I use MBR SSD and CMS turned on in BIOS. To make BenchMate work, extract/move it in Program Files. I've personally installed the same ISO to MSI B550 Uinify-X AM4 and Asus X670E Gene AM5. For installation different windowses from the same flash drive I use Ventoy as once setup, you just drop the ISO on the flash drive and it is then selectable in the install menu. TL;DR; For those who don't want to spend time creating and optimizing their own image, here's my current base ISO (mostly stock with few unattended settings and not compressed). I think it was created with the "generic" driver pack. Windows.7.Ultimate.SP1.x64.EN.AM5_base.iso

I wanted to try D4 myself but seeing this i just might just settle with collective narcissism. P.S great job m8

1. When looking at someone's profile under Submissions -> Benchmark Types -> Filter Benchmarks, it should only show the best result for each CPU/graphics card/etc. Please see the screenshot for an example. I now realized that it shows all scores in chronological order when "Filter Benchmarks -> All Benchmarks" is chosen, even if they are outdated/receive no points. Maybe you could implement it in such a way, that the logic for "All Benchmarks" is kept and once a specific benchmark is chosen, it only shows the best score for each hardware. 2. I see a similar issue with the Search function. It should only show the best result for each CPU/graphics card/etc. matching the search criteria for each user: User 1 - CPU1 User 2 - CPU1 User 1 - CPU2 User 3 - CPU3 ... In the Search function I'm missing the "Show only user's best result" button, which should then only show the best result matching the search criteria for each user. The above example would change to this: User 1 - CPU1 User 2 - CPU1 User 3 - CPU3 ... 3. Like someone else said before, it would be great if we could get the ranking back of other scores with the same hardware in the same benchmark if you click on one of your own submissions.

Alby Forget that it's me who made this post (cause i know how things work in here) and put yourself into the position of a new member or an old member that was absent for a long period. Log-in to the competition page , navigate through stages ... and tell me how clear things are in total and how easy it is for such a user to pick hardware and participate ? I didn't make this post , to point a finger at you. I am posting complaints from my members I want from people above you to realize and deal with the problems we face. It's not possible to deal with everything in this site , with only 2-3 people involving. Alby if you need help , you have to ask for it. Once upon a time , team captains of the major teams , had a private small sub-forum , where they could talk to "hwbot" and talk to each other also. That's missing nowadays.

Well the best trainers and players are usually at the sideline of each football game or watching in their lazy couch or in a sportsbar Thus no difference at HWBOT Classics: - usually zero involvement when setting up a compo - close to no inputs just before any compo starts on ruling - once more a reminder that it is impossible to have 100% clear rules unless you keep the competition format basic like the push the hardware series loophoples therefore are nearly impossible to avoid - sometimes a small effort to look at other subs reveals probably the solution to 95% of the raised remarks - almost everything you talk about is defined by me in the admin setup page, now if it isn't displayed that's another thing where we have to learn from Did I wanted to push the new GUI in November? nope, it was not ready, testing on UAT was pretty time consuming (not so responsive) and very limited as we could not do any subs or setup comps on it. So the best way is the hard way and do the debugging live, preference for me was in January after Country Cup. Do we work hard to get it all fixed, yep, lots of progres has been done already and the eo sports page is no more. How many people are effectively doing the bug fixing/ GUI improvements you all require? : just guess Thanks to all that pot errors and report them

clean desk xD

For sale 60mm round evaporators, 35mm tall. €180 + VAT + Shipping, for most EU countries this will work out at about €230-240. Lightweight high surface area, these evaps are specifically designed to handle refrigerants with glide with less liquid begin sucked back to the compressor. The design impinges the flow and constricts it down at choke points to reduce pressure and ensure the components boil (Bernoulli's principle). Come with 3D printed mounting hold downs, PLA black, and all stainless hardware (except the circlip, which has a black oxide coating). Practical max load depends on the unit and refrigerant, but in theory with ideal conditions these should cool 500 watts easily, up to a max of around 820 watts, but that would require a decently large compressor (34cc+ for reasonably low temps). These are the 3rd iteration of this design with a number of improvements having been made. Designed for a 10mm suction tube, can be drilled larger to 12mm for larger compressors too. Capillary tube hole is meant to be drilled out to the size needed, or drilled larger for a second tube to be brazed on which a cap tube can be brazed too if one prefers. Sadly due to the cost of small small production of items like these from copper, the price is fairly high for these type evaporators, but hopefully I'll get some cheaper designs made soon for less demanding refrigerants. Smaller 45-50mm ones and some square ones too are in the pipelines but it depends in demand, if one of those interests you drop a reply below to let me know. Evaps are supplied pre-pickled for brazing, but due to shipping conditions they made need another pickling wash to remove oxides. Shipping conditions can often lead to condensation. If there are any questions at all feel free to ask them. I'm currently working on getting a test unit built with one of these to demonstrate the performance but due to university I don't get a lot of time for phase building anymore. Evaps are made in Germany from what I can tell (definitely shipped from there, made by Xometry Europe for this production run). Packed and shipped from Ireland. Warranty and returns are standard EU affair, though if you mess it up brazing it wrong; that counts as user error. Includes instructions on modifying and brazing evap but it will be assumed if you buy this you know what it is, and how to use it.

I never saw the beta invitation on discord and I'm fairly active there, I would have loved to check it out Maybe a post in the discord announcement channel with ping would be good next time you have a similar call to action.

I am prepared to beta test. I just never saw the question. I am prepared to think about IT Security as well by the way. There is just 1 thing: Time (as I don't have that much).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cccDcSac5rxPATm_1D76TD2lOqs27Erj/view?usp=sharing Old bios but if you want it here you go

Great job! Looks strong!

Nice clocks !

I'd say @Seby's post was helpful and not ironic and I just wished you good luck, however let me post something constructive in a l0ud_sil3nc3 kinda way retarded.mp4

The first comment of somebody on my score, lol. She was working pretty well with that BCLK

Great work bro 👏👏

Nice Score!!!

desk suitable for ocing👍

It's interesting how things seem to explode on my desk, you should see the other side.. 😂

"testing"

Tim is triggering recalcs apparently, stby

Yes he will replace your score

strong!

Good one!

Great job =D

great run

(7 days later, mem WR broken, Allen be like : "Still Testing") Hahahahha J/k massive score sir 😁

Allen was done testing 3 weeks ago and just keeps hitting the USB stick with Testing1.jpg, Testing2.jpg, etc 😆

#1 https://hwbot.org/country/FR As soon as I press one of the pages for the extreme League, it slightly change the UI (adding the back to first page button) then the UI become useless -> pressing on the button doesn't change #2 https://hwbot.org/hardware/processors?key=intel-socket-478 When left clicking on review it does redirect to a google search with a filter that list websites with some unecessary keywords. #3 Same page, when midle click on review it redirect to this one/the main page : https://hwbot.org/hardware/processors?key=intel-socket-478# #4 Maybe add a "copy link" option in the database so we could more easily share where we currently are to people (for exemple listing all S478 CPU) #5 https://hwbot.org/search/members https://hwbot.org/search/submissions We can't select older date than 2014 #6 The Team creation date isn't shared/shown on the Team page ? #7 https://hwbot.org/hardware/memory?key=ddr_sd_ram-twinmos-twister The HW record is 3012MHz, we can directly access it but listing all the max freq subs did with this memory doesn't show any subs : https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu_frequency/rankings?memoryId=122&memoryProductGroupId=260&hardwareType=mem #8 Theses graphics should be updated at some point : https://hwbot.org/hWBoints #9 How can we upload BM results manually (using the website and not BM) ? https://hwbot.org/submit/benchmark/superpi_-_32m #10 The WR history on the last few subs is broken https://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_-_32m #11 For moderator, clicking on "comment" redirect to bad request https://hwbot.org/moderator/reported #12 On mobile, when viewing a sub with multiple picture, it's a PITA to zoom in/pinch to zoom, it just goes to the next picture, I guess there is a way to disable the "slide to show the next picture" feature and only show the next picture when clicking on the next button ?

Super solid run. For first touch, looks great :D

New error messages are in the making, thx for pointing out the incomplete links

Nice one my friend 💪

That one!

Limiting Processor Amount to 1 in any benchmark search seems to hang the search forever. As an example, looking for all wprime32 scores on Socket LGA1366 with 1 CPU: Another point of feedback, is there a reason the hardware filters are hidden until you click them? I don't think I've ever used the result search without wanting to apply a filter, so it's just an extra click for me every time.

That's actually against good UX principles. I'm used to middle-click on links that I want to open in a new tab.

When looking at a submission you made yourself, there used to be a list of all your previous scores made with the same hardware under there. I consider that a very useful feature because without it, it's hard to look back at old scores

Z790 APEX ENCORE/ Z790 APEX TEST BIOS 9933 For XOC 1. need ln2 mode enabled and mode2 if use gear 4 dont use mode 2 (dont use ambient temp OC, only use to LN2 OC) 2. can switch 11F ucode in bios https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/intel-700-600-series/raptorlake-resources/m-p/1035782/highlight/true#M24593

UNOFFICIAL BIOS for Z790 Apex Encore and Z790 Apex I made to fix Multicore Enhancement not working on the laptop CPUs. Also adds AVX-512 Microcode for 12th gen, and fixes tri/quadfire. Must use USB BIOS Flashback - First boot might take a long time, I think it might be because of the custom bios name, but don't worry about it. If you get d4, just reboot. Z790 Apex Encore 9905 Laptop MCE Fix (Rename to A5470.CAP) Z790 Apex 9905 Laptop MCE Fix (Rename to MZ790A.CAP) Alternatively, you can use XTU to remove power limits.

Z790 APEX ENCORE/ Z790 APEX TEST BIOS 9922 For XOC 1. need ln2 mode enabled and mode2 if use gear 4 dont use mode 2 (dont use ambient temp OC, only use to LN2 OC) 2. can switch 11F ucode in bios https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/intel-700-600-series/raptorlake-resources/m-p/1025284/highlight/true#M23653

Very warm hmm, try leave memory settings all auto, only set FLL OC Mode to Ratio OC, disable ecores, set vcore and core ratio, and apply settings when cpu is at -100 so that you don't change cpu temp too much after training mem. Then see how cold you can go in OS. If you have a cold bug, then raise CPU Input Voltage, first to 2.3 to see if it makes any difference. You can try up to 2.7 if it does help.

hey here https://drive.google.com/file/d/10RV0QoOnjAItzxW7xwmpU5wVKB5d5Cy3/view?usp=sharing

K here they finally are, before we start to explain what and why we did it, take note that there will never be a point system that will suit everybody! Some will love it, others will loath it. Nevertheless this new point system will be one of the last things we wanted to implement before the programmer can focus in full on a new HWBOT, completely build from scratch. Last thing on our agenda is the merging of the "With BenchMate" benchmarks with the standard ones. But we require Mat's cooperation to make the latter happen. K now back to the point system... The Old Boints: I completely lost track of how many different versions of HWBot have passed over the years, however there was one certitude: each release sported its own drama. Even though I’m practically part of the Furniture here, I have no easy explenation how the latest algorithm was ticking. Without being a programmer, it was clearly noticeable that the recalculations were all over the place. Users also tended to loose points due to an incorrect triggered recalculation. Who hasn't seen something like the below picture highlights Lots of zero pointers, identical points, point discrepancies between your attributed points and the others,... One starts to wonder why some of these irregularities were never fixed... as many of these bugs have been present for many revisions/years... Other thing we spotted though was that the recalculation was only being performed for the top 100/200 scores. The new programmer discovered there was intentional code implemented specifically for that goal.. The recalc button was still great for individual score recalculation, but failed hard for complete rankings. Meaning more manual labour from the mdoeration Team to get some rankings fixed. And the list goes on... but let us focus on the present and leave the past behind... The New Boints: Most important thing we wanted to address with the new point system is that it is understandable for everybody. Meaning you no longer require a master degree in rocket science. Secondly the old competitive, skill rewarding algorithm was in most cases very unfair for the ambient overclockers. Thus we focussed on providing more "rewarding" points for OCer's down the ranking. Thirdly the point recalculation needs to be triggered with each new sub, so we want to avoid having the same issues as in the past. Last but not least the original point calculation was fully handled by the database Server. Making the Bot slow down and become even fully non responsive. Instead of rewriting once more the old bugged code, Tim (our programmer) had the idea to code a memory wrapper for the main Production site that could attribute points versus a fixed position. While I was not into that idea at start, it slowly began to grow on me while conducting tests on the UAT Test server. What we noticed was that the UAT site became more responsive and the point calculation was way faster and less bug prone versus the old code. So what did we implement exactly? After some trials and feedback of our members we implemented the current setup by using thresholds. Let us take the Global points as an example: As you can see it is pretty straightforward to grasp how it actually ticks. We went with the popularity of the hardware to specify a threshold. Thus dumping the reference versus the high score or them competitive skill level uber complex algorithms. Thus the principle is :The more people that bench it, the more boints most will will get ( this IF we cross that specific threshold ) The Globals boints Thresholds are: Less than 25 subs: nr 1 gets 15pts Less than 51 subs: nr 1 gets 30pts Less than 75 subs: nr 1 gets 65pts(2D) or 75pts(3D) Less than 125 subs: nr1 gets 90pts Less than 175 subs: nr 1 gets 105pts Less than 225 subs: nr 1 gets 125pts Equal or More than 225 subs: nr 1 gets 161pts(2D) or 169pts(3D) The Hardware Boints Thresholds are: Less than 7 subs: nr1 gets 6pts Less than 25 subs: nr1 gets 15pts Less than 55 subs: nr1 gets 35pts Less than 105 subs: nr1 gets 50pts Less than 181 subs: nr1 gets 62pts Equal or More than 181 subs: nr1 gets 70pts An example of Global points change (with one extra added submission), therefore passing the threshold of less than 25 subs: Threshold: Less than 25 subs: nr 1 gets 15pts Now if one new submission is made to the 14X CPU category ( doesn't matter brand nor model) the boints will double to 30pts as we end up in Threshold 2: Less than 51 subs: nr 1 gets 30pts What does this mean for you? For the Top3 there's still a point gap, but it is no longer that big of a point gap, this to enhance competitiveness. Boint distribution is no longer linked to the highest score, but is now linked to the amount of submissions (aka popularity). Again enhancing competiveness. There's no longer the possibility of an equal point distribution before reaching the minimum of 2 points. Users down the ranking will be awarded with more "motivational" boints than before. e.g. While you only got 0.1 point at spot 240 before you know might get 8 pts or more. 3D benchers can be more competitive for the overal OCer ranking, even though they still have less classes to compete in. Zero pointers (unless already bugged) and irregular points distribution are no more. Front page will be more responsive. Your user profile/rank probably will get a boost, but take into account that your old profile might probably be bugged. ... It will require some users to bench differently to maintain their position in the seasonal ranking. (Typical for each point revision). On the left we see the old Hardware boints system, on the right column the new one. Since we didn't want to take the Bot offline like last time (over 9 days), we opted to go with slow ( and at the moment manual ) recalculation. This allowed me to fix tons of bugged subs ( zero pointers, double/triple subs, hardware submitted in the wrong core category,...) Take note that no changes have been done (yet) to the Team powerpoints, nor the distribution of the globals/hardware points for the career/seasonal league, neither any changes did take place on the achievements page! Also this new pts system doesn't fix the 15th out of 14th ranking! That's another coding bug we need to tackle! From next week we will script the recalculation, this will implies we will count on your cooperation. If your eagly eyes spot any discrepancy in the ranking/points let us know as soon as possible by Private Messaging Leeghoofd (if possible add the required links and/or add an explenation)

Can you try to look at the pictures? 690->790(or 790X) for the first time, the bios is not flashed as usual after 790(690)->790 as usual

I`m sure it´s a little bit more

1/ for mе - good, OC buttons - work( +- 100Mhz CpuFrequency or +- 0.1 BCLK if selected in the bios), but I don't use it. 2/ I don't know, my optimal ratio on any last bios is 6400@7200(VDD=1.51v/VDDQ=1.49v+VDDQcpu=1.38v/VDD2cpu=1.38v&SA(avto)=1.25v) for 2х16GbHynixM-die+12700kf 3,4/ 690->790&790->690 only by FPT like https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=634699 & after 790(on690)->790(new ver bios) or 690->690 as normal

is there a statutory way to force an IOL on gidabyte