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Tim is going to update the current frontend by a new graphical Interface of HWBOT at around 07:00 CET This thread is specifically dedicated to determine spotted errors, bugs , layout suggestions, ... We realize there is still a lot of work to do on fine-tuning this updated version HWBOT, so we count on your cooperation OC community! DESKTOP: After editing a score, the update on the overall Benchmark page is not happening Changing Team page avatar/banner doesn't work Per hardware profile the Submission counter doesn't work ADMINS: Moderated submission list is endless, scores are also not removed from this list after moderation FIXED: Front page ranking seems sorted by date --> swap to boints - CHECK Participate competition button leads to profile login ? - CHECK EDIT button is available when watching someone else's sub, but is luckily disfunctional Search results are ranked by user , this must be ranked by highest score and in descending order - CHECK Competiton Permalinks with more than one sub list the wrong data - CHECK Clicking on a competition stage leads to an error - CHECK New Profile layout - CHECK Country Cup 2024 link is broken - CHECK GA-MA790FXT-UD5P link is broken - CHECK Change copyright 2020 to 2024 - CHECK Zero pointers and Alpha benchmarks must not be listed in Top Points part of the User profile - CHECK WR rank on a submission is leading to the wrong link - CHECK Y-Cruncher PI BBP submission don't work Achievements slider is full (100%) while the data lables reads out eg only 2% - CHECK Commenting on a score is not possible, no sub info on forum - CHECK Recalc buttons is missing for admins - CHECK From Page 2 the Search query gets lost - CHECK Navigating pictures in submission by arrows doesn't work - CHECK MOBILE: No submit button --> Not possible yet FIXED No login button --> high priority - CHECK No search bar --> high priority - CHECK No profile/team button - CHECK

It’s unfortunate that no modern CSS frameworks have been implemented here. Using something like Tailwind CSS or Bootstrap could make the site fully responsive without adding much extra work. For fonts, I’d suggest something like "Inter," which is a variable font and thus easily adaptable. There are plenty of UI/UX designers who could handle the prototyping for a reasonable price, ensuring thoughtful positioning and presentation. Often, developers aren’t designers and vice versa, so collaborating with specialists can make a big difference. I’d recommend restoring the familiar, original design as a foundation, then gradually expanding in the UAT phase with community feedback. Additionally, I noticed no posts on the homepage announcing that help was needed, which could have been communicated more effectively. regards

When looking at a submission you made yourself, there used to be a list of all your previous scores made with the same hardware under there. I consider that a very useful feature because without it, it's hard to look back at old scores

New platform arrived, here's some initial testing with some G.Skill CK 9466 next gen goodness. G4 looking pretty good and much easier to run over 9000 than G2. All testing done with air cooling no cold testing yet, coming soon. 245K 7z YC GB3 285K 7z YC GB3

Albrecht asked for volunteers to check the test server like 2 months ago and only 4 people gave feedback. It's not like he didn't try that. We need all this feedback in order to get it going and fixed fast. So please be productive and just report any bugs or things you don't like. You can be sure that Tim and Albrecht will look into everything.

Here at HWBOT we try our best to deliver a fair and enjoyable playing field for all those who participate in the rankings and competition. To be able to provide this kind of service we have tried to design some submission and general rules to help remove any doubts about whether something is allowed or not. Based on continued experience these rules will be updated, expanded and completed as time goes by. Please check back for any updates. The HWBOT Country Cup 2024 allows only single CPU socket retail motherboards and single GPU retail Videocard submissions (unless specifically stated otherwise). No Laptop or other mobile devices, desktop hardware only Intel Arrow Lake processors and AMD 9800X3D not allowed Please ensure that the verification screenshot includes the competition background, on top of the standard HWBOT rules, a CPU-Z Motherboard tab is required Plz check out the Standard and specific Country Cup 2024 Rules laid down per stage before submitting. If in doubt contact a moderator CPU Stage 1: 7-Zip by BenchMate: 1x 1, 2 and 5 processor core submission Stage2: Geekbench 5 Single Core - AMD processor: Different CPU cores Stage3: 3DMark CPU profile Max - 1x LGA1155, LGA1200 and LGA1700 submission Stage4: Y-Cruncher PI BBP-10B - 1x 6-12-24 processor cores Stage5: HWBot X265 1080P - 1x FM1, FM2, FM2+ submission Stage6: Cinbench 2024 - Intel - Maximum of 24 processor cores (no E core disabling allowed) GPU Stage 1: 3DMark03 - APU: 1x FM2, FM2+ and AM4 submission Stage2: 3DMark Vantage Perf (GPU) - AMD Videocard: GPU Family Stage3: 3DMark Solar Bay (see card limitations) Stage4: Cinebench 2024 GPU - GPU Family Stage5: 3DMark 2001SE - AMD processor, SLi/Crossfire allowed Stage6: 3DMark Steel Nomad Vulkan - nVIDIA - GPU Family Memory Stage 1: Memory Frequency - Y-Cruncher 2.5 stable: 1x DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 submission Stage2: Geekbench 5 Multicore: 1x DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 submission Stage3: 3DMark Time Spy (CPU): Maximum of 10 core processors cores Stage4: PYPrime 32B by BenchMate - Memory Size: 1X 6GB (triple Channel LGA1366) - 8GB and 16 GB submission Stage5: SuperPi 32M: 1x DDR, DDR2 and DDR3 submission Tweaking Stage1: Y-Cruncher Pi-1B by BenchMate - 8 Core AMD CPUs only - 5005MHz - different CPU and Memory Stage2: Pifast by BenchMate - 5005MHz - By CPU socket: 1x AM3+, AM4 and AM5 submission Stage3: 3DMark11 PhysX - 6005MHz - 1 x 8, 12, 16 submission (no E core disabling allowed) Stage4: 7-Zip by BenchMate - 6005MHz - 6 Processor cores: (no E core disabling allowed) Stage5: PYprime32B by BenchMate - 5005MHz - Memory Cas Latency 28 - different CPU and Memory

If that was designed from the ground up, have you considered a library with ready to use components and if yes, can you share the reason for the current approach? I personally like the styling of Tailwind. I know there are pros and cons with everything, but a library would possibly give you responsive layout out of the box, consistent styling, fonts, paddings, etc. For a small dev team and large site that might be the easier solution. Displaying large sets of data and forms on a site is one of the hardest things to design. As for the fonts, Verdana and Ariel are really outdated for the web, they must only be used as fallbacks. There are many modern web fonts that are much nicer, I personally used Rubik for my site, but a typical font-family definition looks like this: "Rubik", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Arial, sans-serif where "Rubik" is my embedded web font. It depends whether you want the same font on all devices or not. Other popular web fonts are Lato, Montserrat, Roboto, Noto Sans, Open Sans. You also need to account for localization, but I don't think that is a feature you're going to support. PS: I don't know what jquery is still used for, but the versoin is really old (from 2012). PS2: I feel few things are better, but overall there's no consistency and the perception is not that good - perhaps there aren't many common components and layouts and everything is done per page basis, which would be a nightmare to fix and support. There are also many UX issues, e.g. like tags/pills looking exactly the same as buttons, no loading indicators (page simply jumps when a container gets its data replaced), non-clickable elements like dropdown list items (you need to click on the text), inconsistent pointer style (cursor).

First of all, thank you to Leeg and the dev for all the hard work they put in to get our little site updated and working as it should be 😁 Some personal feedback I have is.. 1. Can we get the arrows next to the page numbers back for scrolling pages on the front page? 2. Personally I preferred when the submit score button was separated from the rest of the main menu options, but this is personal preference 3. What happened to the sponsors/partners in the main page banner? 4. Scaling seems to be very weird at the moment as well. I reduced zoom on my 1920x1080 monitor to 90% and it looks a lot better. Full size is just weirdly spaced and awkward to look at imo.

I noticed none of my old submissions appear looking at my submissions histroy. I cannot tell you have much I HATE the new UI. Everything so SO bloated, huge and ugly. Feels like I am using a damned tablet or smartphone. Really sucks how it looks now. Amen to that, brother!

Current profile on the left, on the right a slightly smaller version and better readability for the points/rankings

Nice start Loud!

Wouldn't it be more convenient , each time you press the "Verification URL" button , that is present in many subs , to ... NOT leave the site and just open a new window ?

I would like to change team and join Team Hardware Reaktor Reloaded. Thank you.

9 GHz KF was 114 lol

Great run! I don't have backups and would need LN2 for more.

Highest ambient memory validation ever I think 💪 Can't wait to see the LN2 sub!

This, plus I keep clicking on people's names rather than scores now because the clickable score links are so far away to the right and the colours are all the same; the old layout had User/Benchmark in one colour, and result link in another, which might help differentiate.

Thanks, I have a rule in life of never looking back.....lol

The old site was "accepted" as functional even though we had to disable nearly half what it should be able to do. Secondly It was labelled by the community as a monstrocity to work on when using a mobile device. Reverting is thus not an option. Indeed as Roman mentioned we asked for betatesters on Discord. Why not here? Can anyone beg to differ that the forum is always pretty silent when doing a Poll or when a request like this is made? We got 4 users in total that wanted to devote their time to help Tim out. Thanks for the inputs gent. The release date was not chosen by me as not everything that we discussed about on the specific Discord threads was implemented yet ( regarding layout and co). Due to the UAT server we couldn't test new submissions and that test site being very slow didn't help navigating and spot errors. Anyways just looking on all the stuff that has been adressed/fixed since Tuesday, I have faith that by end of next week this new GUI will be better functioning than the "crippled to make it work" Classic version. At the moment we are forcing Tim to focus on fucntionality first and NOT on adding fancy things like avatars, backgrounds etc... A designer will be helping out for the latter as soon as the backbone is properly working.

The more you search this new GUI ... the more problems you find. One minor here ... an other little thing there ... and so on. If i could make a proposal to hwbot , that would be : Can we have the old GUI back please ? , so that we can participate and finish the Country Cup without problems ? After the Country Cup , we can get back to the new GUI and do whatever beta testing you want. Right now things are not optimal ... and the little free time that i have for my hobby , is not "paying back" Instead of having a happy hour ... i get to deal with annoying , irritating , frustrating , little things. Please.

I fully agree, what do you think of the this format CURRENT: PROPOSAL

There's a problem with linking forum comments with a submission and it appears to assign the first commenter as the score owner, e.g. this is unity's submission. The link to the actual score is also gone, it seems.

Mobiles got login and search function bar, but can't submit till Tim adjusts the submission code

Commenting on submissions from the site is not possible - Bad Request (400) in the browser console and absolutely no feedback in the UI.

Some already mentioned it, but the font sizes are very inconsistent and the fonts themselves uncomfortable to read. The advanced submission search has very small font while the results have relatively large but very slim font, and the text is in weird contrast ratio. Modern sites are usually made with changing window width in mind, which also helps immensely with not needing vastly different pages for mobile. This site does not seem to be built with this concept in mind. This is particularly bad on mobile ofc, but on desktop as well, especially once any table is involved. There is a lot of space that doesn't trunkate on smaller width, and instead just cuts off any table to the right. That makes it very annoying to use on smaller or halved screens. Smaller width also breaks the top bar. For example here is the top of the Processor benchmarks table at ~1200px width, displaying the top bar correctly: And here is the same page when viewed on a window slightly smaller than 1200px: This makes the page extremely annoying to use on a halved 1920x1080 screen. It gets even worse once windows get smaller; it should clearly prioritize keeping the important data on screen, such as still having the download and rule links. But instead there is priority on keeping every cell full intact first, which means: -Titles not shrinking, so for example GLOBAL POINTS stays at full length with huge space waste -Cells not shrinking, so the OS section takes up a huge amount of space when links are already full cut off As an example of things not being properly prioritized and leaving tons of whitespace while leaving out important content, at 770ish px vs 980px There is also no relative ranking section on mobile, only the button to go to full rankings for the benchmark. I have to be honest here, this is a very disappointing first showing. The core principles are missing out on at least 10 years of web design evolution. It's still the same old webdesign practises with a slightly changed (less readable) look and of course a whole host of different new problems to iron out. The latter is fair and expected of course. But I don't see any issues this addresses so far, in fact without exaggeration some pages actually hurt my eyes, such as the font size mismatches on the search or competition pages. You can iron those out; but it will still be just as outdated of a site design as it was before, since it still isn't properly responsive to browser size. I think this needs a major rethink and not just detail changes.

Might not be the primary focus at first but the mobile version seems to be missing a lot of features. - No submit button And using desktop mode doesn't even do anything anymore

It's the way the insulation around the hoses looks where it touches the block, kinda looks like an elephant trunk 😂 A couple of whiskeys might have helped me see this, not so sure...

265k 5,5 4,9 3,8 This is all i can do atm with 16a.

Great score, but it just makes me want to try and beat it even harder :D

Gimme your DDR3

I've already shown him my current best (10.178), so I loose, but will get back to it after FX-6300 comp. SMT off is a bit slower, but clocks higher and temps are lower. My issue is ccd1 and if I can't somehow get it sorted, I will have to buy a different chip. Difference between both ccds is huge: 400-500MHz.

Holy shit batman, a fix requested in 2018 on a score from 2014 done 6 years later. There's hope for humanity!

It's 3 seperate compos and it was decided to no longer remove scores for an older CPU-Z for this TechTested compo. No clue why you even bring this up now? FYI for the FX-6300 compo we even moved back to CPUZ 2.00 so the memory tab could be read out correctly vs 2.09 and newer... Even when changing for the better it still seems we can't win, some users will complain no matter what

Wait...You guys are using cooling?

104 degrees, I hope the cooling is a 1 euro coin balanced sideways on the IHS 😂

Promising score 😊 make sure to Disable "Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch" in CPU Features and enable "Round Trip Latency" in Memory Training

I'm taking notes over here

Thats great!

Great result. Is this a regular DDR5 type ... or is the new form of CUDIMM's ?

Probably the only thinks that looks amazing in this gen of cpu's

Yep I get freeze at 8306, calculation finish, but then i get freeze few times tested the same, so i put like 99.9bclk instead 100.09 and it worked well, didn.t have time to test each core yet. I can run 3d01 at 8306 all day, just 4 P cores on. Will test it further to check each core for sure....

Excellent stuff for a chilled score

Hot,hot,hot

I hope this is air

Retail cpu ? What cooling ?

Hell yeah Alex !

This. If you read Revision Guide for AMD Athlon 64 and AMD Opteron Processors, you'll figure out that the FX model number if calculated as follows (row number 3): If you read the note at the top, you'll know that if NN=0 then the BIOS should program "AMD ES" which it apparently didn't. Then ZZ= 24 + NN (=0) we get FX-24. This is simply an unrated ES AMD FX CPU and given by it's stock frequency is an FX-57 ES. I will delete the category in the future. Right now I've discovered a huge bunch of interesting and supposedly, unknown info about s754/940/939. Stay tuned.