V2-V3 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) * I have not yet read the entire 61 page thread* on the topic of hardware sharing one idea is for the bot to require serial numbers to be submitted for GPU's and CPU's to check for sharing, a picture(s) may be required as well. of course one could have a trust issue and fake a serial number, this is where manufactures could offer assistance in validating legitimate serial numbers. A compromise could be serial numbers required for top 20 validation a few key bonuses: 1. Manufacturers would be interested in the quantitative information 2. Hardware sharing could be eliminated with no change to team/individual point ranking 3. this would also put a stop to illegal hardware use, for example stolen/black market CPU's or GPU's. Non retail ES samples that were never intended for use outside of the manufacturer. this is not a full proof plan there are flaws but has some benefit and helps meet the demand of the community. Edited October 25, 2010 by V2-V3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Problem with serial numbers is that it doesn't solve hardware sharing, it just forces people to buy (or find) more than one sample. Eg: a team has 10 samples of GTX480 and sends around just one 1.3G sample for LN2 results. You will have 10 serials, but it's still hardware sharing. As long as you know someone who works in a HW store you can also use serials from sold hardware pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuromancer Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Serial numbers also means HW reselling will cause problems. If I buy a card on a forum or on Ebay, and the serial number was already used... that means I can no longer submit with it? Buying used HW is fine for HWbot, so invoice only or if its a contest winning a screeny of your name on the winners list would be adequate I think. For reviewers... a link to the review could be used. But it still would not stop HW Sharing. JM2C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoF Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Alternatively the suggestion that the best score gets 100% of the points and all other scores (of the team) in the same ranking contribute 10% of the points to the team total. sound ok. maybe it would make sense to reward the top5 of each hardwareclass with a bit more hardwarepoints then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 trophies should contribute as well..other than just looking nice by ones name. since allot of these categories have no points because they have no 2k users submitting. there has to be some type of swing curve some where in this new plan of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cowgut Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 This is not going from rev.1 to rev two so dont compare it,the last major change did not alienate the lesser scoring members. Ok i might be far from in the know,but what i do know is that this is a MAJOR change. Anyways i guess i'll just let the heavy hitters do all the points and just ride the coattails not much else i can do...dead wood here i come woohoo!!! Air only guys just got spat at bigtime. HMMMMM...did not EVERYBODY here start on air? just ranting so take it easy on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Pieter, rev4 time is approaching so I would like to ask if (like it was for rev2 to rev3) is there a server on which you're running a "beta" version, just to see how will points distribution be. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Yes, we will setup a beta server previous to releasing rev4. We're still collecting funds for rev4 so it will not be released at the end of this month. Somewhere in februari is more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Hi Rich, you're talking about 2xWD caviar green 2TB, right? or "funds" are other funds? Anyway, great for the beta server preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 bump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linuxfan Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 bump? Sounds like they're shooting for February... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 cool thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Our ETA for a very first release is 1st of March, for all features in rev4 1st of April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 nice to ear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmke Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 nice to ear must resist joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Day Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 must resist joke. No please I would certainly listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 maybe it was hear instead of ear Both work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperhorn Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 You aid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabi Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 How can we separate the members of the UFL and XOL, if the two categories using extreme cooling, and among more than 30 000 overclockers, those who may be the UFL (how much guys to UFL???... 5...10...50?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabi Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Sorry....forget to ask... Is the UFL like an achievment (if i get to UFL, and lose points, can i down to XOL?...or once i get a UFL i always can keep overclocking in the UFL League) Sorry the bad english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted March 14, 2011 Crew Share Posted March 14, 2011 Fabi, from what I was told earlier - league rankings are based on results, right? So the results fall in different leagues according to league restrictions. If you make a subzero result, your previous air/water result looses points making you lower in Entry league (Novice) and you subzero result achieves points pushing you higher in XOL. So you can't make both. That's only about individual ranking, team rankings don't divide in leagues. But the UFL is going to be a free to participate as I understood. If you wish - you go there. If not - you stay in XOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 I think the UFL should not be free because any people (good or no good overclocker) will join, only to say is part of the league. I believe, in my humble opinion, that the hwbot should select the members of the UFL, and only the overclockers should participate with good results. But as I said, it's just my opinion P.S. will HWbot keep our achievements??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) I think the UFL should not be free because any people (good or no good overclocker) will join, only to say is part of the league.I believe, in my humble opinion, that the hwbot should select the members of the UFL, and only the overclockers should participate with good results. But as I said, it's just my opinion P.S. will HWbot keep our achievements??? Hmmm......segragation by caste system, yeah, that's gonna make you a lotta friends. People will be beating down the doors to get in there. Edited March 19, 2011 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linuxfan Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hmmm......segragation by caste system, yeah, that's gonna make you a lotta friends. People will be beating down the doors to get in there. +1 Mr Scott UFL should only be people with good results? Now how do you define a good result... Example new overclocker "Hey guys, look I'm ranked last in the UFL league on Hwbot with 2 points! W00t!" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted March 20, 2011 Crew Share Posted March 20, 2011 rbuass, being the last in the top dogs league or making your way to top 100 out of thousands? I can't say that being part of the league changes everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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