December 13, 20159 yr I got my hands on the M5 board. It does quite well considering it only announces DDR4-3600 on the box Some first results I made with E-Die, only rough touches on 3rds XTU with loose RTL
December 13, 20159 yr I'll try again. maybe with a different bios. since this is obviously hynix bias actually a little harder on mfr than 1st hot bios but I guess it makes sense with non broken timings I need to get some benching drives in order. my windows keys or ISOs are messed up Edited December 13, 20159 yr by Random
December 13, 20159 yr Author I'll try again. maybe with a different bios. since this is obviously hynix biasactually a little harder on mfr than 1st hot bios but I guess it makes sense with non broken timings I need to get some benching drives in order. my windows keys or ISOs are messed up The tCWL/tWRRD_sg/tWRRD_dg issue was affecting all ICs, not only Hynix. However, it only happened from 3733x101.81 (3800) and above, under this it was perfectly fine so you couldn't encounter this on MFR.
December 13, 20159 yr hmm... I wonder why my on-the-fly c12 3100 @ 1.5, is reduced to 3000 with v2 then.... I just figured that the broken twcl made it loose enough to work at 3100 or 3200 on v1... wierd maybe I tuned the wrong preset... well I guess I will just try hot v2 bios for ambient e-die binning Still some issues but its coming along much better C12-20. 4000mhz is working now Seems left slots suck for single stick binning on this board as well. I know its like that on asrock but as soon as i popped stick into dimm c it started going much better. http://imgur.com/l2a1U3O 1.95v Edited December 13, 20159 yr by Random
December 13, 20159 yr Author hmm... I wonder why my on-the-fly c12 3100 @ 1.5, is reduced to 3000 with v2 then.... I just figured that the broken twcl made it loose enough to work at 3100 or 3200 on v1... wierdmaybe I tuned the wrong preset... well I guess I will just try hot v2 bios for ambient e-die binning Still some issues but its coming along much better C12-20. 4000mhz is working now Seems left slots suck for single stick binning on this board as well. I know its like that on asrock but as soon as i popped stick into dimm c it started going much better. http://imgur.com/l2a1U3O 1.95v What kind of issues? If you never report we can never fix!
December 13, 20159 yr just really bad rtl d1 and times are kinda slow probably me though.. this was a miracle http://imgur.com/KQEC3pD (1.85v) http://imgur.com/0rcdetJ
December 13, 20159 yr just really bad rtl d1 and times are kinda slow probably me though.. this was a miracle http://imgur.com/KQEC3pD (1.85v) http://imgur.com/0rcdetJ Why are you running single channel?
December 13, 20159 yr binning a good dual channel. when I tried to plug in my other stick I was binning to match I ended up getting bad problems even single slot its failing a few loops in only other real problem is auto vccio and vccsa go to 1.35 or 1.3v which I am pretty sure is super high http://imgur.com/R7siQtD my c19 4266 stick doesn't like this board forsome reason.. Edited December 13, 20159 yr by Random
December 14, 20159 yr Author NON-K OC Test BIOS updated in first page :celebration: 1. BIOS is M-flash ready. 2. EIST, C-State and Turbo Boost feature are all DISABLED in this BIOS. 3. When doing BCLK OC with non-K CPU, CPU ratio can only go up to maximum CPU ratio (non-Turbo Boost ratio) and you can’t downgrade CPU ratio. 4. Please adjust CPU Vcore voltage manually.
December 15, 20159 yr Author msi bios for Z170 gaming M7 will also be a non-k Yes, at a later date. Only models with external clockgen can support it though, which means Z170A GAMING G45/M5/M7/M9/XPOWER. Any problems going over 120? Not at all. 120 is a Pepi limitation, not the board More like R&D didn't bother to try much higher and I don't have any locked CPU around to try myself [emoji14] Edited December 15, 20159 yr by pepinorang
December 15, 20159 yr Author Just for Martin and Albrecht, only locked CPU I could find in my department, first try. 1,45v BIOS on CPU and safe timings on G.Skill Trident Z 3866, all aircooled, nothing complicated. Edited December 15, 20159 yr by pepinorang
December 15, 20159 yr How about H110 and B150 motherboard? Z170 are very expensive and not that interesting for o\c Pentium\Core i3.
December 15, 20159 yr Author How about H110 and B150 motherboard? Z170 are very expensive and not that interesting for o\c Pentium\Core i3. As far as I know NON-K CPU OC support on MSI motherboards is limited to the models I mentioned in the post above, for technical reasons explained above. Edited December 15, 20159 yr by pepinorang
December 15, 20159 yr Author binning a good dual channel. when I tried to plug in my other stick I was binning to match I ended up getting bad problemseven single slot its failing a few loops in only other real problem is auto vccio and vccsa go to 1.35 or 1.3v which I am pretty sure is super high http://imgur.com/R7siQtD my c19 4266 stick doesn't like this board forsome reason.. It's not a problem, it's for compatibility and still within Intel specs. Above 3733 many CPUs need that much, if yours need less then just adjust it manualy. 4266 XMP is not supported and probably never be. As far as I know this kit is only supported by ASROCK Z170 OCF and mini ITX boards due to PCB trace layout. All other boards regardless of manufacturer stop at G.Skill 3866/Corsair 4000. However, note that I didn't say you couldn't reach 4266 OC, Toppc actually did 4600 dual channel validation on XPOWER. Edited January 4, 20169 yr by pepinorang
December 15, 20159 yr I see. Wasnt talking about xmp sadly. On my ocf i was doing c12 4000@ 1.84v now i cant get it to pass at all
December 16, 20159 yr Author I see. Wasnt talking about xmp sadly. On my ocf i was doing c12 4000@ 1.84v now i cant get it to pass at all @BenchBros did this some time ago, before tCWL/tWRRD_sg/tWRRD_dg were fixed... As far as I know its also ok with HOT v2. Just got some long awaited E-Die (G.Skill Trident Z 3866), I will give it a try as well, but not before next year, it's vacation time now. Edited January 4, 20169 yr by pepinorang
December 16, 20159 yr Yes, same settings are now OK with tWCL 11 and tWRRD 22-22-6-6 (or smiliar, can't remember exactly) in HOT v2 BIOS. XTU Score was 1593 or sth like that Have no screen on hand, its on my flash drive at home... Edited December 16, 20159 yr by BenchBros
December 16, 20159 yr Can you go tighter that or whats up? Not even 21 or twcl 10? Anyone use this board for b-die? I just got my hands on a stick and want to test it Edited December 16, 20159 yr by Random
December 17, 20159 yr NON-K OC Test BIOS updated in first page :celebration: 1. BIOS is M-flash ready. 2. EIST, C-State and Turbo Boost feature are all DISABLED in this BIOS. 3. When doing BCLK OC with non-K CPU, CPU ratio can only go up to maximum CPU ratio (non-Turbo Boost ratio) and you can’t downgrade CPU ratio. 4. Please adjust CPU Vcore voltage manually. I just update bios and test non-k bios, but my board cant boot when adjust base clock. Boot loop and screen show text: reset default setting System: - Z170A Xpower - CPU i7 6700 - Ram Ripjaws-X 4GB 2133 - VGA GT 630 Setting: - Bios 1.44 non-k oc, flash by M-Flash. - EIST, C-State, Turbo Boost all DISABLED - CPU Ratio: 34 or Auto - Ring Ratio: 34 - Base clock: 120, 105.... - Core Voltage: 1.3, 1.2, 1.25v ... - Memory Voltage: Auto or 1.35v Do you have any suggest for me ? Edited December 17, 20159 yr by savumi
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