September 26, 20168 yr Thank you for sharing Franco. I'm trying to get 50/51/7/7 but I cannot pass the train, I tried 2.15V asi you mentioned, didn't helped. These are my waza stable settings, but cannot do anything else. I tried to play with 3rds, last 7 4 5 5, 7 4 4 4 or 1st ones in differents ways, no go. Do not increase voltage for lowering RTL.Stay with same voltage and try to cool cpu to -50 -100 ,increase VCCIO also might help. But stay at same voltage u trained 51/51 RTL otherwise u can hit the voltage tolerance of your kit and not train because of that and not because of tighter RTL.
September 26, 20168 yr you have 51-7/58-13, you might consider iol 6 as you lower limit, so CHB 13-7=6 and 58-7=51 This Thank you. I was looking for some rational way to understand RTL/IOL setting, because I felt I just typing some numbers in columns. So this is the way settings can be calculated? Do not increase voltage for lowering RTL.Stay with same voltage and try to cool cpu to -50 -100 ,increase VCCIO also might help. But stay at same voltage u trained 51/51 RTL otherwise u can hit the voltage tolerance of your kit and not train because of that and not because of tighter RTL. Thanks. Good to know, I still don't understand well the relationship between voltages and settings. My working waza settings are with 1.99V (real) and 1.43v IO, 1.42SA 0.86VTT. But sometimes, I can't train, I have to lower SA/IO by +100mV in order to train and boot up and then I bump them for +100mV in OS in order to pass 32M.
September 26, 20168 yr This Thank you. I was looking for some rational way to understand RTL/IOL setting, because I felt I just typing some numbers in columns. So this is the way settings can be calculated? Thanks. Good to know, I still don't understand well the relationship between voltages and settings. My working waza settings are with 1.99V (real) and 1.43v IO, 1.42SA 0.86VTT. But sometimes, I can't train, I have to lower SA/IO by +100mV in order to train and boot up and then I bump them for +100mV in OS in order to pass 32M. If u increase RTL by one increase IOL also, so you have valid combinations of 49/50/6/6,50/50/7/6,50/51/7/7,51/51/8/7.... Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
September 26, 20168 yr If u increase RTL by one increase IOL also, so you have valid combinations of 49/50/6/6,50/50/7/6,50/51/7/7,51/51/8/7.... Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk So you are talking only about CHA RTL and IOL, right? Also, when 51/51/8/7 is valid, where is my 51/51/7/6 working 32m lies in this equation? If I understand it correctly, the main goal is 49/50/6/6, If I cant reach it, I should +1 CHA as you mentioned until it works for me?
September 26, 20168 yr Author start on auto if you are getting 51/51/8/7 then try 50/51/7/7 subtracting 1 from rtla and 1 from iola. you must change iol and rtl the same amount. If it doesnt work try flipping the order of your sticks, try lower and higher vdim and or higher SA.
September 26, 20168 yr Ok, so always substracting by 1 at A's, noted. By the way, I tried 50/51/6/6 and I just suddenly booted up, now I get it because I set manually 51/51/7/6 as I had on screen because it was set by auto before, therefore 50/51/6/6 works
October 2, 20168 yr First time today trying 3D 11 Physics,this seems to love memory tweaking,will test again soon 5G all retail cpu SS and memory air
October 2, 20168 yr Is anyone able to screenshot exactly which values in bios to change to manually set RTL? I've just been using auto - which works, but I have no idea which ones to actually change.
October 5, 20168 yr Having some trouble and hoping you folks know the answer (or have ideas). Last few times I've taken a cpu cold in the board, the system starts to post but consistently keeps losing the hardrive. Post codes move through as normal but at post, it shows A0 then A2 and hangs. My main settings are: vcore=1.50 vccio= 1.40 boot pll= 1.638 eventual pll=1.651 vccsa=1.40 vcc pll= 1.50 CB killer= 2.392 DMI=1.794 Have tried with different drives and different cables, same issue. Reflashing MEI didn't help, either. Whenever I get into bios, it doesn't see any drives installed. Thoughts? Ideas? Tia!! Edited October 5, 20168 yr by funsoul
October 5, 20168 yr Author Does it see them at stock? yo do you need that high of voltage on DMI and CB Killer? I dont usually raise DMI at all and CB Killer usually around 2.1v
October 5, 20168 yr Hiya! Yes...sees them at stock. I copied the voltages you posted originally Haven't tried CB Killer at lower volts. Tried DMI at 1.5v, didn't seem to make a difference.
October 5, 20168 yr For my CPU only need this settings, and my settings i think was very high voltage. VCore 1.5v @ 5/5 Core PLL 1.8v PLL Termination 1.5v Standby Voltage 1.5v PLL Bandwidth Level 6 (2.78v) DMI 1.45v VCCSA & VCCIO 1.35v Boot @ -80 C At OS put this setting and pour ln2 slowly to fullpot : PLL Termination 1.65v Core PLL 2.2v VCore & Clock is what u need Edited October 6, 20168 yr by speed.fastest
October 6, 20168 yr Thanks guys! Will change voltages, give it another shot and let you know. Thanks again...really appreciate the help!
October 6, 20168 yr For my CPU only need this settings, and my settings i think was very high voltage. VCore 1.5v @ 5/5 Core PLL 1.8v PLL Termination 1.5v Standby Voltage 1.5v PLL Bandwidth Level 6 (2.78v) = CB Killer on ASRock DMI 1.45v VCCSA & VCCIO 1.35v Boot @ -80 C At OS put this setting and pour ln2 slowly to fullpot : PLL Termination 1.65v Core PLL 2.2v VCore & Clock is what u need pll bandwidth is vccpll on asrock not cb killer cb killer is core pll on asus
October 6, 20168 yr Ok thanks SI, im not using asrock board yet, good to know it Sorry for misinformation.
October 6, 20168 yr Ok thanks SI, im not using asrock board yet, good to know it Sorry for misinformation. it's ok, i'd like to pretend I knew that myself but Nick posted it a few pages back, you were just trying to help.
October 7, 20168 yr For my CPU only need this settings, and my settings i think was very high voltage. VCore 1.5v @ 5/5 Core PLL 1.8v PLL Termination 1.5v Standby Voltage 1.5v PLL Bandwidth Level 6 (2.78v) DMI 1.45v VCCSA & VCCIO 1.35v Boot @ -80 C At OS put this setting and pour ln2 slowly to fullpot : PLL Termination 1.65v Core PLL 2.2v VCore & Clock is what u need I think, judging the voltage on Allen guide, asrock vs asus should be: 1.65 CPU PLL Voltage -> PLL Termination on Asus 1.4 VCCPLL -> CPU Standby on Asus 2.22vColdBugKillerVolt -> Core PLL on Asus pll bandwidth is vccpll on asrock not cb killer cb killer is core pll on asus Thanks Strong! cpu standby = pll bandwidth = vccpll? 2.78v..can't be vccpll...can it?
October 7, 20168 yr Thanks Strong!cpu standby = pll bandwidth = vccpll? 2.78v..can't be vccpll...can it? cpu pll = standby & termination vccpll = bandwidth cold bug killer = core pll so yes level 6 bandwidth is 2.8v which is what I use on Asus, actually I have moved down to 5. Nick said leave vccpll 1.4v unless you cant run full pot, then raise higher, I went up to about 1.8v vccpll on Asrock but higher should be safer if safe on asus, but i dont think it's necessary
October 7, 20168 yr PLL Bandwidth is different than CPU Standy, CPU Standby and PLL Termination is linked, default value for both 1v and difference between both can not more than 450mv, if not you get code "00". PLL Bandwidth level 0 = 1.4V, so level 6 is about 2.78-2.8v. Correct me if im wrong.
October 7, 20168 yr PLL Bandwidth is different than CPU Standy, CPU Standby and PLL Termination is linked, default value for both 1v and difference between both can not more than 450mv, if not you get code "00". PLL Bandwidth level 0 = 1.4V, so level 6 is about 2.78-2.8v. Correct me if im wrong. From what I understand this is what ASRock settings are in connection to your previous post SPEED FASTEST For my CPU only need this settings, and my settings i think was very high voltage. VCore 1.5v @ 5/5 Core PLL 1.8v = CB Killer on ASRock PLL Termination 1.5v = CPU PLL Standby Voltage 1.5v = CPU PLL PLL Bandwidth Level 6 (2.78v) = VCCPLL DMI 1.45v VCCSA & VCCIO 1.35v Boot @ -80 C At OS put this setting and pour ln2 slowly to fullpot : PLL Termination 1.65v Core PLL 2.2v VCore & Clock is what u need
October 7, 20168 yr Any tips for max memory clock? I can't get above 3370, I get that clock with any VCCSA and VCCIO in 1.2v and 1.35v range, any vDimm between 1.6 and 1.9v, and even timings from C16 to C31, tried different mem multipliers and also couldn't go higher. Most 2nd timings and all 3rd timings are auto, maybe that's the problem?
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