rtsurfer Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Stage 2:- Isn't 30C idle too high? 23-25C is more normal, IMO. Stage 5:- Non Asus VGAs allowed?? Important update on ROG OC Showdown Team Edition Teams can be created for the occasion.What this means is that members from different teams can unite (by creating a new team and join it) to compete for this competition. Thus allowing members from different teams to compete together. Edited April 13, 2017 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 5, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2017 On stage 2, we will reconsider this, I thought I already made similar comment. Nontheless, rules will be same for all on stage 5, the general rules answer your question, asus vga only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Needs more rules and restrictions IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 5, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2017 Needs more rules and restrictions IMO Will try to implement some more - seriously, feedback is welcome, simply say what you don´t like, at least for upcoming comps we need opinions. This is a new concept, we will all have to see how it will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The league limitations by round are a bit odd, but either way, I'll watch it and see what happens. At first glance it looked like something I'd try but then I saw the league breakdown and what I would contribute and it turned me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Agreed on the league limitations. Extreme/Elites Ocers are basically useless. Oh well, it is what it is. On stage 2, we will reconsider this, I thought I already made similar comment. Nontheless, rules will be same for all on stage 5, the general rules answer your question, asus vga only Stage 2:- I guess I missed your comment. Sorry. Stage 5:- Yeah I knew it would be like that, but was hoping maybe Asus/Hwbot were feeling a bit lenient this time. All good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 5, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2017 No, you did not miss it, it was at discussion about rules before publshing. I am not sure the 30° will change, but I understand your objections that this is quite tight ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Dont like elite is only good for 1 stage. Dont like that if your team doesnt have any apprentice etc members you will take zeros. Dont like the high ambient temp like rtsurfer said. 18c Idle is easy with LM and normal water. And lastly an extra special F you to elite members by giving the MVP a bonus prize where we can only sub in 1 stage. But hey! New blood right? Screw the current benchers since all we do is whine at the foolish competition rules that are made. It couldn't possibly be because we are correct could it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted April 5, 2017 Members Share Posted April 5, 2017 It couldn't possibly be because we are correct could it? Certainly not I agree with it making elite/extreme members feel a bit useless as they can't help much. Then again I don't have any usable ASUS motherboards at the moment so I wouldn't be able to help much anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I don't find any ting about server/workstation gear. So i ask is it alowd to use x58 whit xeon cpu or other combo. Plz give extreme and elite more play ground, maybe whit a themp limit above subzero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 5, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2017 OC eSports No server and no engineering sample hardware, please check the rules if you are uncertain, I guess they are explicit - if you still find some problems, let us know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) I think this excludes too many teams. How many teams have 3 rookies/novices? We are a top 20 team but have 0 active rookies and 0 active novices. Not so strange as new members by default are placed in "rookies of XXX". The idea to focus on newcomers is good, and to mix in some extremes and elites could be a good way to get the two parties to connect and collaborate. But right now I'd have to switch teams and then I could only do one stage. So you can see that it is not gonna happen... Also, 1080 on ln2 is yet another F you to the elites/extremes In general I agree with Splaves post as well Edited April 6, 2017 by Rauf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirTryAlot Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I think it would be much better when rookie/novice/apprentice ranks would be good for some additional points. For example: All Stages are open for all leagues. But if you are rookie u get a leage bonus of 5 Points in Stage 1. If Novice u get a league bonus of 5 Points in Stage 2 ect ect. This enables a better chance for smaller Teams to be able to participate. Oh and for elite league "ES" and 1080ti and Titans should be allowed. Just my humble opinion =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2017 OK, thanks for the feedback - we will change minmum temp to 25 for the affected stages, on the other topics adressed, it is a new concept as said, and Asus wants to check it, give it a chance. We have opened a lot of competitions to all leagues now to give elite and extreme also chance to compete there, this one ficusses a bit more on rookie, novice and enthusiast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWulfe Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 While a minimum idle of 25C is nicer, I feel it's still too high. Why? A lot of people have their house thermostats at 18-20C (68-72F), and even a 240mm AIO/CLC will usually only be a few degrees above ambient temperatures - let alone those having a decent custom water loop, where idles are only 1-3C deltas. Then add in the "usual tactic" of putting a radiator in a window to draw in fresh air alongside the fact it's spring or fall and that brings lower temperatures..... One would have to rely on a hefty amount of voltage in order to actually meet that 25C idle temp. Additionally... Are we talking after having idled for two seconds, or STABLE idle temperatures, which can take a few minutes to be reached? The two are very different beasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2017 X265 has an integrated monitoring function, test it and your qustions will be answered, minimum tmeps are what is displayed at the tab, it has to be active before, during and after run until the validation file including cpuz screenshot (integrated in the file) is saved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildzoid Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Ok so I guess I should go hunt down all the i7 owning rookies and novices in my team. Stage 2 allows Ryzen CPUs correct? I like the no 1080Ti/TXP rule. 1 because I don't nvidia. 2 because they are extremely expensive. Also Nvidia just launched an even faster TXP2 so the 1080Ti might end up being too slow and who ever buys a new 1200$ card is gonna win. Also about this rule: For each stage, overclockers from a same team will have to use either different CPUs, chipsets or GPUs to count in the Average scoring / Team. I.e. For Stage 1, the average top 3 scores for Team A is calculated as: It mentions different chipsets so would Z170 + 7700K and Z270 + 7700K count as different enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2017 Stage 1, XTU, is a cpu benchmark so you have to use different cpu models and stage 2 allows Ryzen, yes. Under the rules tab, you will also find more information including a table which shows more detailed information. Happy rookie hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 6, 2017 Crew Share Posted April 6, 2017 I just found two new recruits, a 7 year old and a 10 year old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper118 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 So how do i show temps in hw monitor with a ryzen cpu? might work by the end of the competition but doesn't work right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted April 6, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2017 Try hwinfo or another tool and show what you have got^^ - we can find a solution that fits. Internal tool of x265 does not work for ryzen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 So how do i show temps in hw monitor with a ryzen cpu? might work by the end of the competition but doesn't work right now. I've found using HWInfo v5.50-3130 and the CPU (Tdie) shows correct (I believe). Happy enough to rely on it myself anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Ok so I guess I should go hunt down all the i7 owning rookies and novices in my team. I'm in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper118 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Try hwinfo or another tool and show what you have got^^ - we can find a solution that fits. Internal tool of x265 does not work for ryzen? ok. i havent found anything that can read mine yet I've found using HWInfo v5.50-3130 and the CPU (Tdie) shows correct (I believe). Happy enough to rely on it myself anyway. i will try that one later tonight. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm planning to start out with LN2 in the next month or so, so I wondered how that will effect my submissions... If I enter stages 1 and 2 on H2O as a Rookie, and then once I have started using LN2 I enter a later stage (so will then be in the Extreme League) does it void my Rookie scores or will they still stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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