Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 21, 2019 Crew Share Posted February 21, 2019 as title says which Xeons do we allow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAGG Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Since it's 6-core max, why not 2011? Xeons are cheaper than 4930k 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Why x79 at all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, suzuki said: Why x79 at all ? No reason not to tbh, it's not even the best platform for all stages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 None Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleslammer Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
033Y5 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 either just 775 or none to keep it fair none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I think as a general rule of thumb, xeons should be allowed in most legacy comps due to their low price which keeps more in the spirit of what the comps are about. That and the fact there is no real advantage to be had by getting a xeon over a regular mainstream part. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 22, 2019 Author Crew Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) K I close the topic within 12 hours, atm it will be S775 and 1366 only Edited February 22, 2019 by Leeghoofd 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) allowing 2011 for div7 would mean that div7 becomes a 6 cores 2011 series... or the frequency limit should have been set higher such that 6 cores 2011 cannot reach what haswells can. 775, what s the pt of having 775 in there ? 1366 why not since they may compete while not being able to reach 4.7 Edited February 27, 2019 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 note on the side: HEDT 3960k and alike are not Xeons but I7, right ? and I thought they were not allowed for div7....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2011 not allowed but 1366 and it’s xeon’s it is Is there any octacore xeon on 1366?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 27, 2019 Author Crew Share Posted February 27, 2019 Well you look at it wrongly Bolc... participating is not the same as I want to win the Division, I wanted it to be open too many so you can have fun without the need for LN2 or other exotic cooling. So we allow Xeons for up to LGA1366 (what the poll was about), but not on LGA2011 Socket wise no issues with X79 or such, efficiency on the newer sockets seems superior (so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, suzuki said: 2011 not allowed but 1366 and it’s xeon’s it is Is there any octacore xeon on 1366?. There are only up to 6 cores on xeon, but we need to make sure we state 1 socket only so that dual socket 1366 boards are not allowed, that would be a competition breaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 27, 2019 Author Crew Share Posted February 27, 2019 K updating the rules to allow Xeon up to 1366 socket, adding single socket setups only and allowing lga 2011 for regular CPUs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said: Well you look at it wrongly Bolc... participating is not the same as I want to win the Division, I wanted it to be open too many so you can have fun without the need for LN2 or other exotic cooling. So we allow Xeons for up to LGA1366 (what the poll was about), but not on LGA2011 Socket wise no issues with X79 or such, efficiency on the newer sockets seems superior (so far) http://oc-esports.io/#!/round/Challenger 2019 Division VII round 1 2019 the rules state no HEDT i7, isn't it ? "the processor choice is limited to Core i7 series (non-HEDT)." aren't 2011 and 2011-3 cpus considered High End Desktop omg, you copy pasted from the Division 1 and haven t changed the text? EDIT: a 5960x (haswell-e, socket 2011-3), are you this is allowed ? nope, 2011-3 is older. A list of chipset would be so much easier Edited February 27, 2019 by bolc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 27, 2019 Author Crew Share Posted February 27, 2019 2011-3 is NOT 2011, I added this line: Only Intel LGA 2011, LGA1366, LGA1156, LGA1155, LGA1150, LGA775, LGA771 or older single CPU sockets are allowed (no other server or ES hardware) can everybody live with that... seems 2011 is also popular and wide spread... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, bolc said: allowing 2011 for div7 would mean that div7 becomes a 6 cores 2011 series... or the frequency limit should have been set higher such that 6 cores 2011 cannot reach what haswells can. They don't win every stage, for example pretty sure that haswell will still kick x79's ass in x265 even with a core disadvantage, also ivy is more likely to outclock haswell if anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samus2 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I'm using 2011 most benchmarks have no benefit from more cores and memory oc isn't great on it. I speak for the sandybridge ones. That's what most of the benchmarks require so ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy22 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Why socket 2011-3 aren't allowed ? They are also Haswell... Identical as the socket 1150 ?? 2011= ivy-sandy 2011-3= haswell-broadwell Both are LGA2011 as indicate on CPU-Z Edited February 27, 2019 by Speedy22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samus2 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Speedy22 said: Why socket 2011-3 aren't allowed There is a huge difference DDR4 and such ... not really legacy hardware in my opinion. Edited February 27, 2019 by samus2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 27, 2019 Author Crew Share Posted February 27, 2019 then you go for 6950X... nope maximum LGA20111 is the most fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm3113 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: then you go for 6950X... nope maximum LGA20111 is the most fair very rare the LGA20111 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, rm3113 said: very rare the LGA20111 ? Must have a full ATX sized package for that many pins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuentincc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 So to be clear 2011 xeon like E5 16x0 (4 and 6 cores variant) v1 or v2 are not allowed ? They are the same as regular I7 and they are a little bit cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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