Xeon usage in Challenger Intel legacy Round

[Leeghoofd]

as title says which Xeons do we allow

[TAGG]

Since it's 6-core max, why not 2011? Xeons are cheaper than 4930k

[suzuki]

Why x79 at all ? 

[yosarianilives]

1 hour ago, suzuki said:

Why x79 at all ? 

No reason not to tbh, it's not even the best platform for all stages  

[KaRtA]

None

[Aleslammer]

All

[033Y5]

either just 775 or none

to keep it fair none

[ObscureParadox]

I think as a general rule of thumb, xeons should be allowed in most legacy comps due to their low price which keeps more in the spirit of what the comps are about. That and the fact there is no real advantage to be had by getting a xeon over a regular mainstream part.

 

[Leeghoofd]

K I close the topic within 12 hours, atm it will be S775 and 1366 only

Edited February 22, 2019 by Leeghoofd

[bolc]

allowing 2011 for div7 would mean that div7 becomes a 6 cores 2011 series...

or the frequency limit should have been set higher such that 6 cores 2011 cannot reach what haswells can.

775, what s the pt of having 775 in there ? 1366 why not since they may compete while not being able to reach 4.7
 

Edited February 27, 2019 by bolc

[bolc]

note on the side:  HEDT 3960k and alike are not Xeons but I7, right ?

and I thought they were not allowed for div7....?

[suzuki]

2011 not allowed but 1366 and it’s xeon’s it is

Is there any octacore xeon on 1366?.

[Leeghoofd]

Well you look at it wrongly Bolc... participating is not the same as I want to win the Division, I wanted it to be open too many so you can have fun without the need for LN2 or other exotic cooling.

So we allow Xeons for  up to LGA1366 (what the poll was about), but not on  LGA2011

Socket wise no issues with X79 or such, efficiency on the newer sockets seems superior (so far)

[ObscureParadox]

25 minutes ago, suzuki said:

2011 not allowed but 1366 and it’s xeon’s it is

Is there any octacore xeon on 1366?.

There are only up to 6 cores on xeon, but we need to make sure we state 1 socket only so that dual socket 1366 boards are not allowed, that would be a competition breaker.

[Leeghoofd]

K updating the rules to allow Xeon up to 1366 socket, adding single socket setups only and allowing lga 2011 for regular CPUs

[bolc]

1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said:

Well you look at it wrongly Bolc... participating is not the same as I want to win the Division, I wanted it to be open too many so you can have fun without the need for LN2 or other exotic cooling.

So we allow Xeons for  up to LGA1366 (what the poll was about), but not on  LGA2011

Socket wise no issues with X79 or such, efficiency on the newer sockets seems superior (so far)

 http://oc-esports.io/#!/round/Challenger 2019 Division VII round 1 2019

the rules state no HEDT i7, isn't it ? "the processor choice is limited to Core i7 series (non-HEDT)." aren't 2011 and 2011-3 cpus considered High End Desktop

omg, you copy pasted from the Division 1 and haven t changed the text?

 

EDIT: a 5960x (haswell-e, socket 2011-3), are you  this is allowed ?  nope, 2011-3 is older.

 

 

A list of chipset would be so much easier

 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by bolc

[Leeghoofd]

2011-3 is NOT 2011, I added this line:

Only Intel LGA 2011, LGA1366, LGA1156, LGA1155, LGA1150, LGA775, LGA771 or older single CPU sockets are allowed (no other server or ES hardware)

 

can everybody live with that... seems 2011 is also popular and wide spread...

[yosarianilives]

3 hours ago, bolc said:

allowing 2011 for div7 would mean that div7 becomes a 6 cores 2011 series...

or the frequency limit should have been set higher such that 6 cores 2011 cannot reach what haswells can.
 

They don't win every stage, for example pretty sure that haswell will still kick x79's ass in x265 even with a core disadvantage, also ivy is more likely to outclock haswell if anything.

[samus2]

I'm using 2011 most benchmarks have no benefit from more cores and memory oc isn't great on it. I speak for the sandybridge ones. That's what most of the benchmarks require so ...  

[Speedy22]

Why socket 2011-3 aren't allowed ?

They are also Haswell... 

Identical as the socket 1150 ??

2011= ivy-sandy

2011-3= haswell-broadwell

Both are LGA2011 as indicate on CPU-Z

Edited February 27, 2019 by Speedy22

[samus2]

36 minutes ago, Speedy22 said:

Why socket 2011-3 aren't allowed

There is a huge difference DDR4 and such ... not really legacy hardware in my opinion.

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by samus2

[Leeghoofd]

then you go for 6950X... nope maximum LGA20111 is the most fair

[rm3113]

27 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

then you go for 6950X... nope maximum LGA20111 is the most fair

 

very rare the LGA20111 ?

[yosarianilives]

2 minutes ago, rm3113 said:

 

very rare the LGA20111 ?

Must have a full ATX sized package for that many pins  

[TheQuentincc]

So to be clear 2011 xeon like E5 16x0 (4 and 6 cores variant) v1 or v2 are not allowed ? They are the same as regular I7 and they are a little bit cheaper