MaddMutt Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Thank You I was more referring to 25 or 50 points for have the fastest Air Cooled, AIO, Ect, Ect i7 8700k/8086k in SuperPi, PiFast, CB-11.5/15/20. Currently It's (Here's a Cookie) a thank you for your submission BUT being 1st with the lowest score does not count (He He/Ha Ha). The hard part is making sure that each category stays within X c/f temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythical tech Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, MaddMutt said: Thank You I was more referring to 25 or 50 points for have the fastest Air Cooled, AIO, Ect, Ect i7 8700k/8086k in SuperPi, PiFast, CB-11.5/15/20. Currently It's (Here's a Cookie) a thank you for your submission BUT being 1st with the lowest score does not count (He He/Ha Ha). The hard part is making sure that each category stays within X c/f temp. That will cause even more cheating than there currently is right now. I could sub my cascade as dice or SS and have it is the next room and then have another system "running" for video proof and it would be almost impossible to tell. Unless the mods are going to be flying out to watch every bench session having cooling categories based points is not a good idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Mythical tech said: That will cause even more cheating than there currently is right now. I could sub my cascade as dice or SS and have it is the next room and then have another system "running" for video proof and it would be almost impossible to tell. Unless the mods are going to be flying out to watch every bench session having cooling categories based points is not a good idea. This enthusiast league is a joke Imho because few bad apples spoil the batch. Before moving up to apprentice I considered trying to get 1st in enthusiast and scrapped that idea because somebody could just cheat their cooling and be impossible to prove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 4, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 4, 2020 It is always a few that spoil it for all the rest.... no matter how many categories, rules one imposes... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythical tech Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: It is always a few that spoil it for all the rest.... no matter how many categories, rules one imposes... My vote is still to fly you out to each and every bench session 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATA 58 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Enthusiast league she's dead all steps go ln2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 5, 2020 Crew Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) click on enthusiast https://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_-_32m/rankings#start=0#interval=20 Edited January 5, 2020 by Leeghoofd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted January 5, 2020 Members Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, NATA 58 said: Enthusiast league she's dead all steps go ln2 What else would you expect? Edited January 5, 2020 by GeorgeStorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATA 58 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5700-5800 GHz mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted January 6, 2020 Members Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 hours ago, NATA 58 said: 5700-5800 GHz mmmmm ? Why would an enthusiast score be in the top 20 for a singlethreaded 2D benchmark, that doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATA 58 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) it makes no sense that an. entthusiast compete with ln2 Edited January 7, 2020 by NATA 58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted January 7, 2020 Members Share Posted January 7, 2020 You can choose the cooling if you want to only check enthusiast scores. Just select the cooling at the top of the table as shown above. If you're wanting seperate points pools then I'd anybody thinks people cheating with their cooling is bad now it would become 100 times worse in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATA 58 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 enthusiast about 100,000 members + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted January 7, 2020 Members Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, NATA 58 said: enthusiast about 100,000 members + ...? So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) How 'bout we not use those inflated numbers anymore. Use only active members. Let's get a real snapshot of how the leagues stand up. That includes the team league. Edited January 7, 2020 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleslammer Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Bad cold is bad cold, SP32 takes more than CPU freq. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I'm not sure there is a seasonal ranking for teams Mr Scott? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Noxinite said: I'm not sure there is a seasonal ranking for teams Mr Scott? There isn't. But that's ok. Still would like to see teams ranked using only active members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Mr.Scott said: There isn't. But that's ok. Still would like to see teams ranked using only active members. Wouldn't that involve shifting team points from the inactive members to the active members (where appropriate) to make it representative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Noxinite said: Wouldn't that involve shifting team points from the inactive members to the active members (where appropriate) to make it representative? It's a fair point, that sounds like a lot of coding a server workload troubles that probably wouldn't make it worth it. We could just simplify things and simply not include inactive members and keep the points where they are, or alternatively a seasonal ranking for teams seems like a better idea honestly. If activity is the main concern then nothing really shows how active you are better than the seasonal rankings. Truth be told there is no perfect system although an active team member leaderboard does make things more interesting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Noxinite said: Wouldn't that involve shifting team points from the inactive members to the active members (where appropriate) to make it representative? Yes, but you're probably right. Way too much load on the server to make it worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirco69 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 12/22/2019 at 8:32 PM, Leeghoofd said: Ow and who's exactly sponsored according you guys? The Top 10 of Elite ? Some others are reviewers, that just post scores with ES samples. So that changes nearly nothing. if we put these peeps in a seperate class. If there are sponsored OCers in enthusiast than these should be honest and move themsleves to Elite Thing is we hope to make a big announcement soon about the future HWBot and some stuff will be altered and more important fixed One of my working points witll be providing points to everybody iso doing a cutoff at a certain percentage, but its too early days.... till then we have to sit and wait the outcome of current discussions.... I don't want to buy subzero cooling but like to OC and like to compare my scores against other ambient scores. Sometimes it's interesting to see subzero scores too. Points and leagues are not really interesting for me, because i will only bench what i want and when i want. As long as there are points, there are spam submissions that no one is interested in, just for the sake of someone getting some points. Those are, what annoys me most about hwbot. I would find it very useful to be able to filter scores by ambient/not ambient. Don't care if there are separate point systems, but it would be nice if hwbot could display an ambient ranking table. I think that's a compromise, even the most hardcore LN2 addict can live with. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythical tech Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 minute ago, mirco69 said: I don't want to buy subzero cooling but like to OC and like to compare my scores against other ambient scores. Sometimes it's interesting to see subzero scores too. Points and leagues are not really interesting for me, because i will only bench what i want and when i want. As long as there are points, there are spam submissions that no one is interested in, just for the sake of someone getting some points. Those are, what annoys me most about hwbot. I would find it very useful to be able to filter scores by ambient/not ambient. Don't care if there are separate point systems, but it would be nice if hwbot could display an ambient ranking table. I think that's a compromise, even the most hardcore LN2 addict can live with. cheers You can already sort by cooling type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirco69 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mythical tech said: You can already sort by cooling type but not ambient/not ambient edit: i don't see the point in separating ambient cooler types Edited March 26, 2020 by mirco69 ambient is ambient, is ambient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted March 26, 2020 Crew Share Posted March 26, 2020 Ambient for one is -15°C , other side of the world they have 25°C. Is that a fair comparison ? Might be perfectly fine for you, but annoys someone else... Air cooler is an air cooler, water is water, chilled water is cooling to go below ambient temps (whatever they might be),... We have done this discussion thousands of times, there's no perfect solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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