Country Cup 2020 Design Thread

[DanKadr]

7 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

Because it prevents cheat

More realistically probably because people can't figure out how to get it to work, because they like to run super stripped os so installing prerequisites like dotnet and updates on w7 scares them

Isn't the shit part of having to fight some stupid programs to get them to work a part of oc?
Ofc it will be much nicer if every mandatory program will just work out of the box, but we have to use what we got.
We should try to prevent cheats as much as we can

[Mr.Scott]

Then ban more offenders.

Convict is easier than prevent.

[unityofsaints]

8 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

More realistically probably because people can't figure out how to get it to work

I've had it fail on completely stock images, you've obviously not used it enough...

[ginger_nuts81]

As for CC this year, I would vote for Spi 1m. 

 

[Mythical tech]

2 hours ago, Mr.Scott said:

Then ban more offenders.

Convict is easier than prevent.

Unless they are a big name then the rules don't matter which one of the issues. 

[Mr.Scott]

14 minutes ago, Mythical tech said:

Unless they are a big name then the rules don't matter which one of the issues. 

If there are people getting a get out of jail free card because of who they are, then nothing implemented will matter anyway. So why bother.

I would rather have GPUPI 4.0 than fucking Bitchmate.

Edited October 4, 2020 by Mr.Scott

[Splave]

29 noobs figured it out, https://hwbot.org/competition/keeph8ns_ACGC_LGA1151_farewell/ cant be that hard can it? XD 

[yosarianilives]

4 hours ago, unityofsaints said:

I've had it fail on completely stock images, you've obviously not used it enough...

That's because you didn't install prerequisites. I do think maybe it would be helpful if instead of just a self unzipping archive it had an actual installer that installs prerequisites similar to most full fledged programs, so it comes packaged with vs, and dotnet, etc. And maybe even prepackaged the w7 update you need to install for cryptographic. 

But in general my experience has been 100% of people who can't figure it out are user error. 

[yosarianilives]

So anyways, enough unproductive arguing about benchmate. So far the ideas people have come up with for stages are: 

AMD ycruncher 1b 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 core cpus or alternatively if am3 is too old then we can do 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16 core amd

Port Royal x number of scores

7 zip no hedt

x265 1080p allendale (seems old for CC to me), x265 4k sandy bridge, x265 1080p single core 5x cpus (no socket limitations, can use socket twice), x265 1080p 4 core no HT

I think any ONE x265 stage would be good and a staple 

AMD Sempron cpu x number of sockets (seems like at best am3 is barely new enough)

Cine R20 Dual Core

Memory frequency all out per socket (2x AMD, 2x Intel) either do only ddr4, only ddr3, or both. (1x amd, 1x intel ddr3, 1x amd, 1x intel ddr4)

HEDT slug fest, no holds barred x265 4k, ycruncher 10b, gpupi 1b,m anything else that's demanding and scales to high core counts

Potentially Benchmate stages

 

So that's not a ton of ideas thrown out, especially cause tbh I would expect at least a third of them to be automatically thrown out for a CC. Another thing, I notice that nobody is suggesting 3d stages outside of my one suggestion of port royal, so either we're trusting leeg to pull some 3d stages out of his ass or nobody in this forum wants to touch 3d with a 10ft pole. Personally I think 6 stages sounds good, 3x 2d and 3x 3d, would be very traditional for  a country cup.

 

If I had to suggest a 3d stage I'd say do something like Firestrike Extreme but make it pascal and turing only.

also fuckit, let's do another igp stage. amd apu timespy

Edited October 4, 2020 by yosarianilives

[ginger_nuts81]

How many brain cells would be lost during that ycruncher stage ?? ?
 

More catzilla love would be great. Who doesn't love watching a raging pussy attacking the town ?

 

[suzuki]

You got me at raging pussy. Put catzilla, i bought steam license not so long ago,need to use it ,haha.

[Pirat]

for 3d it's simple, write on paper notes every 3d stage, put them in a bag, pick 3 at random. 

[yosarianilives]

3 hours ago, ginger_nuts81 said:

How many brain cells would be lost during that ycruncher stage ?? ?
 

More catzilla love would be great. Who doesn't love watching a raging pussy attacking the town ?

 

Wydm? Ycruncher is very straightforward, it just works. 

[Noxinite]

Well we can't use Catzilla for obvious reasons. I also note the suspicious amount of AM3 stages, I wonder if someone has a preference.

If you really want to troll people, then Conroe bclock...

Edited October 4, 2020 by Noxinite

[unityofsaints]

8 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

That's because you didn't install prerequisites.

How would you know? Maybe it's just a garbage program, that's a more reasonable explanation than bending over backwards to try to come up with "user error" instead.

[yosarianilives]

Perhaps there are more issues with nm currently than I have seen. But I think we shouldn't derail this thread further arguing it, let's discuss more stages. I personally think a BM stage would be good, but I think we shouldn't do all stages from BM as this is country cup not bench mate cup. 

[yosarianilives]

2 hours ago, Noxinite said:

Well we can't use Catzilla for obvious reasons. I also note the suspicious amount of AM3 stages, I wonder if someone has a preference.

If you really want to troll people, then Conroe bclock...

Funny thing is the only am3 stage I suggested is ycruncher 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and only 1, 3, 5 would be am3 the rest you'd want Am4. 

I suspose maybe the single core stage, but I'm not sure sempron would be one of the top 5 chips for x265. 

[Mr.Scott]

1 hour ago, yosarianilives said:

Perhaps there are more issues with nm currently than I have seen. But I think we shouldn't derail this thread further arguing it, let's discuss more stages. I personally think a BM stage would be good, but I think we shouldn't do all stages from BM as this is country cup not bench mate cup. 

Won't make any difference to you anyway as the US hasn't been a contender in a decade. 

[Mr.Scott]

12 hours ago, Splave said:

29 noobs figured it out, https://hwbot.org/competition/keeph8ns_ACGC_LGA1151_farewell/ cant be that hard can it? XD 

Thanks Al. 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2020 by Mr.Scott

[yosarianilives]

1 hour ago, Mr.Scott said:

Won't make any difference to you anyway as the US hasn't been a contender in a decade. 

You're not wrong, but that doesn't mean I won't bench what I can and try to get others to try as well. 

[rushed down]

Socket 3, lowest cpu frequency. 

[chispy]

I propose 3dmark vantage dual core or four core cpu + dual gpu ( eg. 2x 5xx nvidia or 2x 7xxx amd ) 

[ginger_nuts81]

Sli action is always fun

 

[Splave]

On 10/4/2020 at 12:23 PM, Mr.Scott said:

Thanks Al. 

 

 

 

Always happy to help haha

[_mat_]

BenchMate doesn't need .NET btw and runs ootb for Windows 8, 10 and even 7 if you have the latest updates installed.

If you have a nlited Windows 7 or older version, you will need the SHA2 patch to verify signed executables. I was not able to buy a SHA1 certificate (that would run with any Windows 7 version ootb) as nobody offers one anymore. SHA1 is end-of-life because it is no longer deemed as a secure solution. That's true for web and for code singing. So if you want to use 7, please install the SHA2 update.

All other prerequisites are needed by the benchmarks, not BenchMate.