Mean Machine Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Meeting set. With whom? Air Liquide or Linde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Another one, but I might as well check with AL and Linde too I guess ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 How many people would be interested in signing up for an LN2 program that would rate LN2 at, let's say, €0.5 and LN2+dewar delivery at €1. The more people who'd use that service, the higher the LN2 volume they sell, the lower we can push the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm not sure if this applies to everyone in here, we don't have Linde at least. AL I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm not sure if this applies to everyone in here, we don't have Linde at least. AL I don't know. AGA is part of the Linde group, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiwa Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) also pangas here is same group http://www.pangas.ch/international/web/lg/ch/likelgchpangasde.nsf/docbyalias/mul_we_gas_nav i am in just tell how to do Edited February 20, 2012 by Hiwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Looks like Pangas is a Swiss affiliated company of the Linde Group: So you can count on all Ocaholic OC Team members (We are interested): Christian Ney Hiwa Besi Splmann Michel90 Rewarder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 AGA is part of the Linde group, I think. Yes it is, here is the full list: http://hiq.linde-gas.com/international/web/lg/spg/like35lgspg.nsf/docbyalias/nav_aboutlinde BOC (e.g. UK) AGA (e.g. Sweden) Linde Gas (e.g. Germany) Abelló Linde (Spain) AFROX (e.g. South Africa) PanGas (Switzerland) CHEMOGAS (Belgium) TEGA (Germany) Spectra Gases (Now Linde North America) HKO - Hong Kong Oxygen (Hong Kong) MOX (Malaysia) TIG (Thailand) BOS (Now Linde Gaz Türkiye) Karbogaz (Now Linde Gaz Türkiye) SIGAS (Saudi Arabia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oanvoanc Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 How many people would be interested in signing up for an LN2 program that would rate LN2 at, let's say, €0.5 and LN2+dewar delivery at €1. The more people who'd use that service, the higher the LN2 volume they sell, the lower we can push the price. would this "contract" work for all e.g. linde ln2 suppliers in europe? if yes, how about the conditions? would i have to buy a minimum amount of liters a month/year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornerJack Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I waaaant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 would this "contract" work for all e.g. linde ln2 suppliers in europe?if yes, how about the conditions? would i have to buy a minimum amount of liters a month/year? Well, I haven't got any real details yet, just set the first meeting to see if something can be done about it. Ideally: - yes, would for all Linde group suppliers - contract would have a minimum amount of LN2 required (volume needs to be high enough to justify better pricing) We'll see ... first let's have the meeting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Machine Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 - contract would have a minimum amount of LN2 required (volume needs to be high enough to justify better pricing) I got an 18% rebate on a 100 liter/month deal from Linde/AGA. If you can hook a badass deal up, I'm in for sure. With all the people here, I'm pretty sure we could easily count 1000+ liters a month. If I can help somehow, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Fired an email to Linde as well. Don't really have a contact over there, so it might take a while. Could you call up your contact maybe? Check if he might know the people I'd need to talk to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'm interested If you can get BOC to supply for 50 cents/ L + delivery, i'd give you a round of applause. Their default is £4/L + delivery. BOC don't wanna know about small-time users and deliberately price them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yes it is, here is the full list:http://hiq.linde-gas.com/international/web/lg/spg/like35lgspg.nsf/docbyalias/nav_aboutlinde BOC (e.g. UK) AGA (e.g. Sweden) Linde Gas (e.g. Germany) Abelló Linde (Spain) AFROX (e.g. South Africa) PanGas (Switzerland) CHEMOGAS (Belgium) TEGA (Germany) Spectra Gases (Now Linde North America) HKO - Hong Kong Oxygen (Hong Kong) MOX (Malaysia) TIG (Thailand) BOS (Now Linde Gaz Türkiye) Karbogaz (Now Linde Gaz Türkiye) SIGAS (Saudi Arabia) BOC Australia > owned by Linde people controls 70% market share in Australia http://www.chemlink.com.au/indusgas.htm but they are ridiculously expensive. I pay $1.2/L Delivered and they charge $6-7/L to pickup LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Machine Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Could you call up your contact maybe? Check if he might know the people I'd need to talk to? My contact is awesome. I've been trying to get hold of her three times to have my invoice adjusted (nothing is according to my contract), apparently she senses that and doesn't pick up the phone. I'll check though. EDIT: Okay, I checked with her now. First good news is that my invoice is adjusted according to my deal. The second, more relevant, piece of news is that she's checking for someone at Linde HQ who can set up some sort of deal, she'd get back to me ASAP. Edited February 20, 2012 by Mean Machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyph3r Smurf Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 We are a group here in dk that's on it we take about 10-15 x 230L a year right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Why don't you work on Airgas in the US while you're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokiealumnus Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Gunslinger... Step 1: Go here and print invoices from this post and this post. Step 2: Take them to your local Airgas branch. Step 3: ...... Step 4: Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewarder Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I've also been talking about a special contract for the Swiss overclocking guys. Pangas, which is part of the Linde Group, as Chris pointed out several times, has a discount plan. And it starts to get really interesting if you can committ to take 25'000 liters LN2 or more per year. So if you negotiate with them make sure that you overexaggerate I would tell them all overclockers in Europe might need 50'000 to 100'000 liters LN2 per year or so and then lets give it a try for one year. After that first year there could be further negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Last year, about 600 people used ln2 at hwbot. On average, I reckon most would get upto 1000L per year if the price is between €0.5 and €1. I think there's leverage ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Refill 50L roughly each fortnight = 1100-1300L. If it's cheaper, i'd love to save money.... but i'd use more LN2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 From the looks of it, Linde might be the best option. I just don't know if there's a discount plan that covers all Linde Group distributors. I reckon every distri probably has their own plan. Well, we'll just have to wait and see what the reply is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 AGA is part of the Linde group, I think. We have AGA. And i've heard the rates are now $10/L:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Not sure if we could offer some sort of advertizing in return? Maybe that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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