Johan45 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 That's totally allowed. Makes it pretty hard to tell if it was actually three different people or just one person sharing results. So I could just go get my neighbour as long as he has his own card he can plop it into my system and run the benchmark, submit it and it's legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 so if is not a requirement . i think it means we should follow the general rules right ? General rules for CC were followed. Example: MR.X MR.Y MR.Z in a joint session, all used MR.X's platform but used their own GPU's. Each subbed with only their own GPU. Totally legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Makes it pretty hard to tell if it was actually three different people or just one person sharing results. So I could just go get my neighbour as long as he has his own card he can plop it into my system and run the benchmark, submit it and it's legal? Yes. This is where 'trust factor' comes into play. It's not a perfect scenario and been brought up many times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Oggy_Dz2 , lanbonden and Kvekan_SWE have wrong screenshoots . CPUz says they used 2600K but 3dmark06 shows they used pentium III xeon Report the subs then. Let the mods sort it out. Don't do the lynch mob thing here. This is a public forum. It only makes you look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan45 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I see what we have to do next year then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I see what we have to do next year then. Yes. The same thing that every other team is and has been doing. FWIW, I have no dog in this race. I'm just trying to help a few friends save some face is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan45 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Thanks Scotty for the clarification on the "rules" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickFast Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 This is 06 not fire strike where the cpu don't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWulfe Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yes. The same thing that every other team is and has been doing. FWIW, I have no dog in this race. I'm just trying to help a few friends save some face is all. So basically, instead of trying to push for HWBot to actually enforce their own rules (and re-write them to be a lot clearer about things), you're just outright saying since at least a few teams are doing it here and there, everyone else should. Yup, instead of going the honourable route you're instead implying everyone should just cheat because a few people you know are being called out for bending the rules a great deal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) So basically, instead of trying to push for HWBot to actually enforce their own rules (and re-write them to be a lot clearer about things), you're just outright saying since at least a few teams are doing it here and there, everyone else should. Yup, instead of going the honourable route you're instead implying everyone should just cheat because a few people you know are being called out for bending the rules a great deal.... I don't write the rules. Also, if you do some searching, you'll find that I've been pretty vocal about the rules many many times before. If you want to blame me, knock yourself out. I'm not the problem. I only offer a solution. Do what everybody else does. BTW, the few people I know, aren't being called out. They're doing the calling. Sometimes it's good to know who your friends are before you open your trap. Edited December 20, 2015 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Thanks Mr Scott, afraid you are probably right. It would be impossible to prove there was 4 people actually at the helm of the shared hardware which is what makes it suspicious. Lanbonden and Rauf both seem active and reputable members of the community and you have to respect that they wouldn't tarnish both their own personal honor and worldwide reputation with cheating. So, personally I offer them congratulations on the 3rd place finish. As for the rules, I think it needs to be nailed down solidly as to what is legal. If the swedish scores stand for this competition then we can say that it is legal and allowed. For next year it will be way easier to bin one set of WR hardware instead of having everyone use what they have and we will be better prepared. Of course, it burns when you aren't playing on level field because assumptions made about the rules. So I will look forward to the clarification from the moderation staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Glad you and Shawn understand where I'm coming from. Right now all your Canadian brothers are hating me hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc0053 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It was an awesome competition and thanks for hwbot to hosting this wonderful event! This was a great excuse to learn new benches and meet many awesome overclockers in my own country that i had never met before. Last year we were in #22 position and we got to #4 this year which to me is a huge achievement by itself. Looking foward to next year's competition Cheers and Happy Holidays to all! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse88 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 To be honest i dont think Hwbots intention with these teamcup/countrycup comps evry year its not to have people bashing eatch other about cheating. I Think the reason of these comps to bring team members/ coutry members together as freinds and in the same time get them to learn of eatch other and have some fun. The countrys/teams in the top is the teams who done the team spirit the best. Congrats to all for a god and fun Countrycup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Canadians, I know you focus on us because we beat you on the finishline. But look at the aussies. They are very successful because they get together a whole group of people and share knowledge, hw (allowed), OS etc. What was mainly shared on our part was a 2600k system clocked at 5ghz. WR hardware? If you can't beat an old 2600k on watercooling maybe you should look at what you could do better instead of accusing us of cheating. We could have used my 6700k which runs 3d06 at up to 6250 (depending on OS) and that would be allowed. But lets save that for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Things Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It was an awesome competition and thanks for hwbot to hosting this wonderful event!... Last year we were in #22 position and we got to #4 this year which to me is a huge achievement by itself. Yeah, I think we said amongst ourselves going in that we thought we had a shot at Top 5 this year. So to get to #4 is absolutely huge. Like how the silver-medal-winning hockey team feels after losing in the finals, there's some sting to missing Top 3 by such a slim margin at the last moment. But, when we look back at this we'll be nothing but thrilled with our result. edit - And we'll get to look back on this all year long whenever we see the forum sigs of our American friends! And that deserves a w00t w00t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I had to delete my initial response to some of the comments of the past few hours - wouldn't have been so constructive. It's pretty disappointing reading some of the comments, for the people (person) that thinks we just all got together and benched one platform while just swapping video cards, you need to apply yourself and look a little harder - your comment is absolute rubbish. I like the comments of Pulse88, marc0053 and Deadthings above - this is what the competition is supposed to be about. Setting yourself a challenge to do better the last year, good planning, preparation and communication, and getting together with your mates, to have plenty of fun. Anything else and you are not doing it right!!!!! Thanks to HWBOT and the sponsors for this years competition, it's been a blast, looking forward to 2016 Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taloken Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Australian Open : Jeu Set and Match ! Congratulations to all countries for this another great edition of Country Cup ! Podium was our objective of this year, but a 7th place is not so bad in regards of the little means we managed to have this year So Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and c u next year ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Many thanks to Hwbot for the challenge each year. Thanks to my team mates for bringing the goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Well done all and look forward to seeing you motivated and ready next year. We get together every year and this year had about 15 overclockers get together, have fun, drink beer, oc shytloads of hardware, burn 1K litres of ln2 and hope for the best. Our best was good enough to win and it feels great. Germany is going to come back swinging next year and it looks like Canada and Sweden are on the rise, good to see, just don't forget this is a hobby and most important thing is to have fun and enjoy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew pro Posted December 21, 2015 Crew Share Posted December 21, 2015 people are allowed to bench together though, matt may or may not have made that result if he benched alone this is country cup, the whole idea is to get together as a team, share ideas, share knowledge and work together at our event we continually had pros like sniper, bobnz and dino helping less experienced overclockers achieve results they never would have on their own at home this is what country cup is all about and for me thats what makes it the best competition of each year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Sniperoz is a 20min drive away lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Great competition again this year! The moderation team will process the last-minute subs as soon as possible so we can make the announcements shortly :celebration: To be honest i dont think Hwbots intention with these teamcup/countrycup comps evry year its not to have people bashing eatch other about cheating. I Think the reason of these comps to bring team members/ coutry members together as freinds and in the same time get them to learn of eatch other and have some fun. The countrys/teams in the top is the teams who done the team spirit the best. Congrats to all for a god and fun Countrycup. I haven't been able to read through the entire thread yet (arrived late yesterday night from long flight), but I wanted to take the time to highlight two things. 1) @Mr\.Scott is correct when saying that according to the HWBOT rules it is allowed to use one platform for 3D benching, swapping nothing but the graphics card. 2) I want to highlight Pulse88's post because he nails what the Team and Country Cup is about. I absolutely LOVE seeing overclockers from one team or country get together to share the passion for OC. I remember the team sessions we had when I was in Belgium and I can honestly say those were always the most fun (even if @Leeghoofd his girlfriend strongly disagreed). It's great to see that in Sweden and Australia this is also happening and I can only hope to see this happen in even more countries. The only thing I can think of after reading the posts from the Canadians is wonder how strong they will be next year! Getting top-5 without a coordinated session is fantastic ... imagine what's possible when the team takes it to the next level :ws: :celebration: //edit: also cleaned up a bit. I need to learn how this infraction thing works lol Edited December 21, 2015 by Massman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Massman,I know dino must be pming you real fast to delete my post as it shows his guilt,I don't think you guys will do nothing about it as hes part of Gigabyte that sponsor HWBOT,can you direct me to the correct place on Hwbot to put this cheating forward? If you want to ban me for showing they cheated then just do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newlife Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Nice going to everyone involved The meet was awesome and offered an awesome chance to learn for some of the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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