l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 you took my away, such censorship is truly disappointing. If you want to bench pi (quite slowly, might I add) then follow what OP says. Quote
sin0822 Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Hey Alex, I think you did a great job. Also I don't agree with hiding information to make it challenging, there is literally no guide on tweaking tertiaries for DDR4, plus isn't not like he wrote a guide on "How to Splave" and beat Splave at his own game in the HOT comp. He just wanted to share his knowledge of one of the more intimidating areas of DRAM overclocking, where things differ a lot, and he gave advice on how to overcome odds that give people headaches and make them burn motherboards and set them afloat on lakes. There is a reason that ROG guys release those LN2 benching guides at launch, there is no reason for them to hide the information, as if they make it more public on their platform people will buy it. It's the same thing as DRAm timing profiles they had, I bet a lot of money that boosted their ROG sales a tiny bit as well. Anyways nice job Alex, people always going to find problems, and there is always room for improvement. Quote
Lucky_n00b Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Very Impressive :eek: Must have taken you days if not weeks to get all that info. I work as a reviewer, and memory review has been something I've done a lot to slowly increase my skill as an overclocker. Despite doing this on daily basis, I can certainly say the information you put in the first post is WAY much better than what I know right now. Amazing guide man, keep pushing it! Quote
Massman Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Added a bit of formatting to the post, hope you don't mind Alex! For those who want a TL;DR of topics covered: Issue #1: I can’t go over DDR4-3600 on Maximus 4-dimm boards Issue #2: I am stuck at 55 41 78 or 3E POST CODE Issue #3: General behavior of various IC Issue #4: 2 DIMM vs 4 DIMM Issue #5: BAD RTL Training Issue #6: The TWRWR_DR and TWRWR_DR timings . Issue #7: TWRRD_DR and TWRRD_DD Issue #8: TWRRD_SG and TWRRD_DG Issue #9: TRDRD_dr and TRDRD_dd Issue #10: Proper Secondary Timings Issue #11: The sweetspot….So where do we have the best performance? Quote
CL3P20 Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Good info. Sure it will save a lot of folks from ever putting in the work, helping all that dont test subtimings and RTL themselves to get an inch further. Though efficiency wont come from random settings.. so I dont think too much was 'given' *If others made guide folks may complain their mems cant POST his timings, even then couldnt match Pi. Alex made guide anyone can POST/follow and match. I missed the "guide to WR Pi timings" post..can someone show me the way.. Quote
Guest barbonenet Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 with Peerica_Barii Os AHCI patched (just for try....usually i use mine)....i hide the tertiary just for fun.....but they are not to blame for your low performance AlexRo......look around and keep pushing:) Quote
sabishiihito Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Used this guide to do some tweaking on M8E with 4x4GB TridentZ 3200C16 E-die...definite improvement over what I got from before, though I'm not sure how much had to do with the tertiary timing changes, or just different mobo. Old results on M8G: New results on M8E using tweaks from OP: Edited November 15, 2015 by sabishiihito Quote
sabishiihito Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Got two kits of HyperX Savage 2666C13 AFR Friday. Had fits with one kit booting anything over 3200 but finally coaxed a 3600 12-18-18 run out of them. Sticks from the better kit can run tRCD/tRP 1 clock faster (17-17): Edited December 21, 2015 by sabishiihito Changed "Predator" to "Savage" Quote
Random Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) had this board for a day or 2 now pretty fun with the right chip. AFR spare kit I like this board thanks alex great guide 1.8835v untightened 1.92v dug out a better stick for this run tcke 6 is hard e-die 4k 19-19 samsung from yesterday before i tried c12 3866 on afr 1.884v 1.8985v AFR 4k http://imgur.com/a/Tbvve1.8985v Edited January 3, 2016 by Random Quote
sabishiihito Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Testing Patriot Viper 2x8GB DDR4-3400C16 single-sided Samsung B-die on M8E at 1800MHz 12-12-12. No waza Waza Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 4, 2016 Administrators Posted January 4, 2016 These will arrive in germany 2017 - like all interesting kits, but at 30% above USA price . Nice run Quote
Alex@ro Posted January 4, 2016 Author Posted January 4, 2016 Nice to see more B-die ,the more results the more we know what to expect from this IC Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 6, 2016 Administrators Posted January 6, 2016 Can your Patriot run 3600 16-16 on asus at 1,35v or less, Calvin? My "cheap" 3600c16 fail this no matter which imc volts or subtimings,1 or 2t, they need above 1,35 for this but run 16-17 at 1,3v memtest... Quote
Random Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 i went through 6 sticks yesterday. nothing was able to load win @ c12 3733 1.8. (maybe I am doing something wrong on impact but it didnt seem like I was doing anything wrong. os wasnt corrupt Quote
sabishiihito Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Can your Patriot run 3600 16-16 on asus at 1,35v or less, Calvin? My "cheap" 3600c16 fail this no matter which imc volts or subtimings,1 or 2t, they need above 1,35 for this but run 16-17 at 1,3v memtest... No go at 3600 16-16-16 1.35v, at least when I initially tried. Maybe I should clear CMOS and give it another go. Sent from my SM-G928T using Tapatalk Quote
Doug2507 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 i went through 6 sticks yesterday. nothing was able to load win @ c12 3733 1.8. (maybe I am doing something wrong on impact but it didnt seem like I was doing anything wrong. os wasnt corrupt 3950 12 12 12 28 220 1t on big ocf. Took half a day to get there. Small steps, lots a patience. Quote
Random Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 i tried all sorts of things, with the first pair I got but these were atleast posting 3733 everything that could have helped it load would have been taken care with the settings I had I think but who knows. shipping them off to alex and he'll have them in a week. I was really just testing these last 3kits for quick confirmation they weren't DOA as g.skill's track record has been appaling lately. and the RMA kits from Taiwan aren't any good. Ill wait for my next batch to really take time... I have to wait on some money to come back from all my afr binning Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 3950 12 12 12 28 220 1t on big ocf. Took half a day to get there. Small steps, lots a patience. That's because the bios you are on, will post a newer one that fixes a few things and runs 1T super easy like on first boot super easy Quote
splmann Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Hey Load , i have the same problems as Doug2507 ! Would be cool to get also this Bios . Quote
Doug2507 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Yeah, defo not the only one that's had this, maybe just a little bit more determined than others to get it going! Certainly won't be binning sticks till sorted! Quote
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