nickolp1974 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 That's because the bios you are on, will post a newer one that fixes a few things and runs 1T super easy like on first boot super easy That would be very nice! Please Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Hey Load , i have the same problems as Doug2507 ! Would be cool to get also this Bios . Yeah, defo not the only one that's had this, maybe just a little bit more determined than others to get it going! Certainly won't be binning sticks till sorted! That would be very nice! Please No problem guys but wrong thread, post in one minute in the correct thread. Quote
Asmola Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 Can your Patriot run 3600 16-16 on asus at 1,35v or less, Calvin? My "cheap" 3600c16 fail this no matter which imc volts or subtimings,1 or 2t, they need above 1,35 for this but run 16-17 at 1,3v memtest... My Trident Z 3600 16-16 1T works flawless even under 1.3v, works 3733 16-16 1T with stock volts too. Currently using Gene with bios 0014, but have to try another bios, cause with this bios i have serious problems getting these work +3600 12-12 1T.. Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 9, 2016 Administrators Posted January 9, 2016 My Trident Z 3600 16-16 1T works flawless even under 1.3v, works 3733 16-16 1T with stock volts too. Currently using Gene with bios 0014, but have to try another bios, cause with this bios i have serious problems getting these work +3600 12-12 1T.. I received a second kit out of same order, it did specs and 3733 12-12-12-28 220 1T around 1,7v on Hero, at 3866 12-12 boot and 1m but 32m failed, 12-14 worked then, might have needed better IMC. judging from xmp voltage your kit might do better, needed 1,32v for that Quote
Alex@ro Posted January 9, 2016 Author Posted January 9, 2016 Restarted from scratch a new windows xp install and seems everything is fine with first post " M8 Impact 3866 13-18-18 Tight,Hynix AFR All air 4 ghz : 7:21:937 5 ghz : 5:58:531 SIDE NOTE: In order to have Write Recovery Time (twr) seen as 10 in utilities you need to adjust Write to Precharge Value from auto (26) to 23 ,this will get you 10 instead of 13 . Quote
sabishiihito Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 SIDE NOTE: In order to have Write Recovery Time (twr) seen as 10 in utilities you need to adjust Write to Precharge Value from auto (26) to 23 ,this will get you 10 instead of 13 . Finally the mystery is solved, thanks again Alex! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Guest barbonenet Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Restarted from scratch a new windows xp install and seems everything is fine with first post " M8 Impact 3866 13-18-18 Tight,Hynix AFR All air 4 ghz : 7:21:937 5 ghz : 5:58:531 SIDE NOTE: In order to have Write Recovery Time (twr) seen as 10 in utilities you need to adjust Write to Precharge Value from auto (26) to 23 ,this will get you 10 instead of 13 . now looks better........i find the same solution for lower the twr, because i look the timings of ocf, and i understand where was the problem on asus theme luna worked fine only on perica os......on new one is better standard! Quote
rtsurfer Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) B-die on Impact. MOCF no need. :banana: Edited January 10, 2016 by rtsurfer Quote
aerotracks Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Killing it rt! Finally the mystery is solved, thanks again Alex! This is not new, has always behaved like this on Z97 Gigabyte for example Quote
Alex@ro Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 Tried the B-die on Maximus VIII Extreme : 2 modules DDR4-3900 12-12-12-1T! with proper 50-51 RTL : 4 module DDR4-3733 12-12-12-1T! ,3866 booted a few times but no stability with 1T yet,need to retest on single stage. The gold rule is to trust the retry button and lock RTL manually as soon as proper training occurs. Quote
loul Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Hello guys I need help, I'm at the bottom bucket I'm having trouble with BDIE I tested full kit on i3 ( 4 kit 3600c16,2 kit 3600c17,2 kit 3200c15) on m8g/m8i and m8e and I can not make a loop on the 32m . I dont understand what i'm doing wrong, the c12 does not pass with volts ram , cpu, sa, VCCIO ... bclk 100 with low ratio ram it's same I have not tested under cold ram but just on the cpu to test . do you think the cause is due to xp badly tweaked (max mem ... ) I test on windowsxp32b . Thanks for your help. Quote
Dancop Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Have u tried all timings on auto except the first 4 and 1t? Quote
loul Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 yes I tested 12/12/12/28 / 1t and the rest in auto and the result is the same... I was inspired by the 5gp screens and no issues too much ram volts appears to penalize unlike ddie and edie tested with 1.95 max Quote
rtsurfer Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Hello guys I need help, I'm at the bottom bucket I'm having trouble with BDIE I tested full kit on i3 ( 4 kit 3600c16,2 kit 3600c17,2 kit 3200c15) on m8g/m8i and m8e and I can not make a loop on the 32m . I dont understand what i'm doing wrong, the c12 does not pass with volts ram , cpu, sa, VCCIO ... bclk 100 with low ratio ram it's same I have not tested under cold ram but just on the cpu to test . do you think the cause is due to xp badly tweaked (max mem ... ) I test on windowsxp32b . Thanks for your help. B-die does this. Its the RAM's fault. I've got 6 kits here that do the same thing. If this is happening at 4000C12, try 3866C12. And keep in mind that not all kits scale with voltage, so sometimes try lowering the voltage. To avoid overvolting from the get go, its best to find the lowest voltage to pass training & then go up from there. Also, its good to lock in RTLS after first training pass, to avoid random instabilities. I use 1.25V VCCIO & 1.3V VSA. You can do upto 1.35V on both, depending on your IMC, it might or might not help. I haven't found it helpful. Cold CPU doesn't help from what I've heard. Also best to stick to 100BCLK initially to judge the kit. Edited February 16, 2016 by rtsurfer Quote
Wizerty Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 B-die does this. Its the RAM's fault. I've got 6 kits here that do the same thing. If this is happening at 4000C12, try 3866C12. And keep in mind that not all kits scale with voltage, so sometimes try lowering the voltage. To avoid overvolting from the get go, its best to find the lowest voltage to pass training & then go up from there. Also, its good to lock in RTLS after first training pass, to avoid random instabilities. I use 1.25V VCCIO & 1.3V VSA. You can do upto 1.35V on both, depending on your IMC, it might or might nor help. I haven't found it helpful. Cold CPU doesn't help from what I've heard. Also best to stick to 100BCLK initially to judge the kit. Seems to be good advice, I experience exactly same behavior. I can boot easely (when i'm not stuck in 55-41 loop ) but then -> "not exact" after init loop with 1800c17 @1.95v or 1900c12 @1.75.... final I tryed to start again from clear bios, all timing auto and rise frequency up to 3800 and find that memory failed due to voltage. After 1.67v it stop benching. It's Os stable but can't run 32M Quote
Guest Bullant Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 B-die does this. Its the RAM's fault. I've got 6 kits here that do the same thing. If this is happening at 4000C12, try 3866C12. And keep in mind that not all kits scale with voltage, so sometimes try lowering the voltage. To avoid overvolting from the get go, its best to find the lowest voltage to pass training & then go up from there. Also, its good to lock in RTLS after first training pass, to avoid random instabilities. I use 1.25V VCCIO & 1.3V VSA. You can do upto 1.35V on both, depending on your IMC, it might or might nor help. I haven't found it helpful. Cold CPU doesn't help from what I've heard. Also best to stick to 100BCLK initially to judge the kit. Good advice Quote
rivaldokfc Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 hi all. I have 2 kits of 3600c16 kit tested on OCF ATX. All of them can pass 4000 12 12 12 220 2t spi 32m@winxp 32bit, but failed @Win7 64bit. what's subtimings should be changed? thanks Quote
Administrators websmile Posted February 17, 2016 Administrators Posted February 17, 2016 At high frequency and tight timings B-die shows weakness on x64 os, try to set maxmem to reduce available memory to OS Quote
GtiJason Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 hi all.I have 2 kits of 3600c16 kit tested on OCF ATX. All of them can pass 4000 12 12 12 220 2t spi 32m@winxp 32bit, but failed @Win7 64bit. what's subtimings should be changed? thanks Doesn't matter changing subtimings, 64bit OS is the problem. I believe you can change max mem in os to under 4000mb while mems in xmp and go back to bios and set bench timings and freq. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?292331-***Official-ASRock-z170-OC-Formula-Finger-Pop-OC-Bonanza-UKNOWDAT-Edition-FTW-ETC***&p=5268923&viewfull=1#post5268923 Quote
rivaldokfc Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 At high frequency and tight timings B-die shows weakness on x64 os, try to set maxmem to reduce available memory to OS thanks Michael. I am currently using an old XP system which was used on my z97 MB. I wanna install a new one to run some test on skylake platform. Is there any guideline can tell me how to do that? regards~ Quote
rivaldokfc Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Doesn't matter changing subtimings, 64bit OS is the problem. I believe you can change max mem in os to under 4000mb while mems in xmp and go back to bios and set bench timings and freq. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?292331-***Official-ASRock-z170-OC-Formula-Finger-Pop-OC-Bonanza-UKNOWDAT-Edition-FTW-ETC***&p=5268923&viewfull=1#post5268923 got it~ let me read this thread. thanks Quote
Administrators websmile Posted February 17, 2016 Administrators Posted February 17, 2016 thanks Michael.I am currently using an old XP system which was used on my z97 MB. I wanna install a new one to run some test on skylake platform. Is there any guideline can tell me how to do that? regards~ Try Coolice´s guide and software for this new xp install, it worked for me on Asus and also on OCF I had a while ago http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=142991 Quote
rivaldokfc Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Try Coolice´s guide and software for this new xp install, it worked for me on Asus and also on OCF I had a while agohttp://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=142991 that's cool, I will have a try~ Quote
RULE Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Just leave this: 7.17.709 Not finished yet...Impact is really a little monster board. Quote
rivaldokfc Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 i tested my 36c16 kit with winXP @4000 12-11-11 and passed spi 32m without waza. vdimm 1.87v-1.9v(Z170 OCF). but failed once i try waza in loop1 or 2. how can i make it more stable after i do waza? thanks:) Quote
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