HWBOT Team Cup 2017 Discussion

[max1024]

I have read future task competition and saw that in some tests its need to get 2 and 3 results from the Team. Is it possible to change the rules so that only one better result is enough? For small Teams 5-10 persons, finding 2-3 identical HW is very turbulent and problematic, enother words impossible.

 

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Background

Edited July 1, 2017 by websmile

[websmile]

This is a three month event which we already made a bit less voluminous than last team cup. I am well aware of the fact that the team cup always is a big challenge especially for smaller teams, but when we design it dominated by 1 result stages only, will this be a team cup in the end when one guy can cover it alone? We see this problem each year. We have one stage (latest gen 1151 cpu) with 5 results, and all others are max three apart from ddr race. It is not easy and I will start discussion about this but personally I am not happy with the idea to make this a single player campaign

[Mr.Scott]

Keep it 'team' oriented.

FWIW, W9 has only 6 or less actively competing benchers and we seem to manage the top 5 every year.

It can be done, it's just more work.

[ozzie]

the team cup is just what it says, "a team event", if it is 1 player from a team then it isnt a team event, its 1 member from any particular team, its not a team participation spread over the team and a team participation is the whole idea of the TEAMS CUP competition in my view and how i percieve its meaning, the teams cup requires strategy, cunning, communication and tenacity for the "team" to become the winning team or place getters, along with good hardware and good software installation and useage imo

[skulstation]

some questions:

 

SC1: CPU 2D

 

Stage 6: Cinebench R15 S939. i asume no 1** opterons alowed?

 

SC3: MISC 1

 

Stage 3 : pifast LGA775. i asume no 771 on 775 board alowed?

stage 4 : Memory Frequency. can we use fb-dimm on the intel d5400xs?

[websmile]

We wanted to allow opterons there as special service for 939, I think we do allow them indeed, On other stages no server cpus.

771 cpus are not allowed

and memory is ddr1,ddr2,ddr3 and ddr4 one result each. If you want to use fb dimmsgood luck, normal mems will beat you by hundreds of mhz

[skulstation]

Thx for the info.

[Noxinite]

Where's the background?

 

Apologies for my impatience.

 

Edit: Also are you allowed to remove submissions from this competition (unlike the vendor competitions)?

Edited July 1, 2017 by Noxinite

[WhiteWulfe]

It's now almost 08:00 MDT, which makes it almost 14:00 UTC. Any word on when we're going to get our competition background as it's halfway through the first day?

[websmile]

https://d1964r093mwb8w.cloudfront.net/Competitions/1971-1974_TeamCup2017/TeamCup17-banner-1920x1080.png

 

Here it is - don´t pull subs for tactical reasons, we do not want to have a game of unsportmanslike conduct

[DR4G00N]

I'm wondering since we can use Opty's for R15 s939 are we also allowed to use said CPU's for DDR1 max frequency using s939?

[websmile]

Yes, you can as these are allowed as exception for the team cup

[DR4G00N]

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

[TASOS]

At first sight , i was surprised seeing MaxxMem , at Team Cup (after all those chat's about buggs and flies of this benchmark)

 

But after looking closer ... what a relief

It was Maxmem this time.

 

Phewww

 

 

.-

 

 

P.S.

Dont you dare and tell me , i've got a bad sense of black humor

[Noxinite]

Typos.

[Gumanoid]

Where is the link to official competition background??

[websmile]

Page 1 of this thread and also at news thread about team cup

[websmile]

At first sight , i was surprised seeing MaxxMem , at Team Cup (after all those chat's about buggs and flies of this benchmark)

 

But after looking closer ... what a relief

It was Maxmem this time.

 

Phewww

 

 

.-

 

 

P.S.

Dont you dare and tell me , i've got a bad sense of black humor

 

After division results brought final proof of maxxmem being non reliable and not acceptable anymore for competetive benching we do not need another test. We will repace the benchmark on monday. Benching this stage atm no need

[WhiteWulfe]

After division results brought final proof of maxxmem being non reliable and not acceptable anymore for competetive benching we do not need another test. We will repace the benchmark on monday. Benching this stage atm no need

 

Wait, you mean it isn't focused on who can get the highest memory frequency anymore? Interesting.

[websmile]

We have a stage which is maximum memory clock for ddr1-4, the stage I talk about is misc sc4 stage 1, which states maxmem rb 2011-3

Edited July 1, 2017 by websmile

[WhiteWulfe]

We have a stage which is maximum memory clock for ddr1-4, the stage I talk about is misc sc4 stage 1, which states maxmem rb 2011-3

 

Ahhhh, okay, good to know. Somehow I'd glossed over that part.

[TAGG]

Is it a rule to use ddr 1-4 for sc stage 1? Because if not RD and FB are actually good replacements for DDR1...

[websmile]

ddr1-4, fb dimm is ddr2 and rdram is different technology

[TAGG]

They are individual types of memory in the database though and judging by the stage description it should be possible to use them instead of DDR1... In the limitations it doesn't say DDR technology, so it might be good to add that info

[Wiggles]

Are we allowed to use hardware that comes out during the competition? A lot of good X299 mobos and rumors of Threadripper coming out before the comps over.