GunGod Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It seems like you don't see a lot of points. If you're the rules-hero here you should know about this part: The submissions only have a different version which does not affect the final score so there is no reason at all to block them. Even if they are against the rules. Those competitions are for fun and there is absolutely no reason to disappoint so many people for no reason. No reason ?!? you showing me example with general rules when same rules says very simple that 1.0 is not alowed and you admit u never know this calling this minor mistake. So it looks like rules apply only for me and all ppl that follow em and not for you and other that dont that elaphant$hit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Come down man! This is the fairest solution for all. All guys spend a lot of money and freetime for this. Accept as it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunGod Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Come down man! This is the fairest solution for all. All guys spend a lot of money and freetime for this. Accept as it is now Yes we all do. I wont comment more of this if pll enjoy it this way comunity is more important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 No reason ?!? you showing me example with general rules when same rules says very simple that 1.0 is not alowed and you admit u never know this calling this minor mistake. So it looks like rules apply only for me and all ppl that follow em and not for you and other that dont that elaphant$hit! People using v1.1 did not have any disadvantage so there is nothing to complain about. It would be different if 1.0 scores higher. I can't help if you did not manage to submit 3/3 results. But I really disrespect the behavior of reporting submissions just to go up in the ranking yourself. End of this discussion for me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 25, 2013 Crew Share Posted December 25, 2013 Probably the most of you dont remember anymore but we had a similar situation back in TeamCup 2012. After Competition ended someone reported a score from us. Till this moment we were 1st but than HWBot showed us how mean things can be. Short story: a teammate submitted a fb-dimm ram validation with an ES CPU. While we all agree that old ES hardware, especially in this specific case, had nothing to do with the score, it still got blocked. Now looking at this discussion, I wish we had someone back than who also said: I approve your result because the rule is in this specific case non sense. Just think about this and tell me its ok to make exceptions for some people and for some not. Im fine with any decision as I dont care who wins. And even if I know we won, because of some non sense bulls...., victory would have be a very bitter taste. This is just something about HWBots credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjc Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 No ES is an explicit and well known rule, not the same scenario at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted December 25, 2013 Administrators Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Tell me more about explicit rules http://www.hwbot.org/news/9044_application_51_rules/ P.S. Btw, can someone link me the es rule? I found cloud gate with 2 clicks from startpage but cannot find anything about es apart from general rules where is stated that these are allowed for pro oc... - must be my bad searching skill Edited December 25, 2013 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 25, 2013 Crew Share Posted December 25, 2013 No ES is an explicit and well known rule, not the same scenario at all Old ES hardware is allowed for getting points in general. So this rule seems not to be that explicit ... Its just completely forbidden in competitions for no reason. Now imagine he didnt red the rules page back than because he was confident he made nothing illegal.... Doesnt that sound similar to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecdm Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Funny that schenckel bros was persecuted the other day for using wrong version of system info or completely disabling for a bench using w8.1 and the argument was that it has been clearly posted in some thread, somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Funny that schenckel bros was persecuted the other day for using wrong version of system info or completely disabling for a bench using w8.1 and the argument was that it has been clearly posted in some thread, somewhere. There are a tonn of different cases and I'm pretty sure you guys are sometimes also happy that we investigate each case individually. In the case above the result can be tricked without the correct system info on Windows 8. However the Cloud Gate results are the same on v1.0 and v1.1 using single GPU. Tell me more about explicit rules http://www.hwbot.org/news/9044_application_51_rules/ P.S. Btw, can someone link me the es rule? I found cloud gate with 2 clicks from startpage but cannot find anything about es apart from general rules where is stated that these are allowed for pro oc... - must be my bad searching skill http://hwbot.org/competition/country_cup_2013/stage/1158_superpi_32m_low_clock_challenge/ Stage limitations: Engineering samples and hardware released after November 1 are not allowed Edited December 25, 2013 by der8auer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtremeCuztoms Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Well this wasn't what I expected to wake up to on Christmas Morning. I would think that this would of turned out a different way if there had not been a hwbot moderator included in the removal of the scores. I think this person being involved in the discussion helped to decide that the scores be added back. Never the less congrats to all. Going forward, how are we able to enforce rules when this rule was broken but then allowed? Merry Christmas Hwbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 25, 2013 Crew Share Posted December 25, 2013 I just wanted to make you aware of that and on top of that share my personal opinion. As member of Awardfabrik we might be just a little more sensitive on this topic. But as staff had already decided anyway, I would say lets just open a beer and enjoy the holidays. I will do for sure (beer-wise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted December 25, 2013 Administrators Share Posted December 25, 2013 Thanks for the link, Roman, was searching for a general rule but on competition this is clear, also know the 2012 rules as I looked them up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GF]Duke Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This is the bottom line. If it were multiple gpu's that would have been a different story. There is no argument::: The Cloud Gate results are the same on v1.0 and v1.1 using single GPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 How much did you pay ney roman lmao good choice IMO. Personally going to prepare better for next year and go super hard. Merry Christmas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew pro Posted December 25, 2013 Crew Share Posted December 25, 2013 Make sure you focus on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Don't need to sand bag just need stronger results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimba Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Woot! Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 Don't need to sand bag just need stronger results! Good attitude! :battle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizerty Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 To avoid any confusion, W8.1 allowed ? Driver 13.12 allowed ? If not what's the latest available at the begging of CC ? Any 3dm version restrict ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 8.1 is allowed but you need the latest sysinfo and you have to provide a valid futuremark link. 13.12 is fine, too. All 3DM11 versions are okay except 1.0.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hey guys, Someone just mailed me to say there is a difference between the stage end time and the cup end time. The cup was originally supposed to end on the 27th noon GMT (24h from now), but the Cup was configured to the 28th (48h). I've re-aligned the stage and Cup to the 28th. So you might have an extra 24 hours to get the score. Sorry for the inconvenience - hope it didn't ruin anyone's sandbag plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Actually great Wanted to bench tomorrow morning. Now I can sleep longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Hey guys, Someone just mailed me to say there is a difference between the stage end time and the cup end time. The cup was originally supposed to end on the 27th noon GMT (24h from now), but the Cup was configured to the 28th (48h). I've re-aligned the stage and Cup to the 28th. So you might have an extra 24 hours to get the score. Sorry for the inconvenience - hope it didn't ruin anyone's sandbag plans. Oh Thank God. The LN2 is coming a bit late so I was worried. It's okay now, can sleep for today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 oops, rebenched my 670 seems it had a bit left...oh well with no ln2 470 score would have made little difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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