The official HWBOT Team Cup 2016 thread

[websmile]

Sc1 stage 6 is Haswell-E, and you better believe that for 3d11 full out and fire strike e we might see broadwell-e as well. On amd, we included stuff like 9590 etc at sc2, we can only use what amd offers us, might have been sarcastic rsponse by me but it is a fact that amd has not released ddr4 systems so far and that their highend cpu are older than haswell iirc....

[GunGod]

wow thats crazy! Iam not sure if the time is enuf for me only to asemble setups for all stages with my currently available hardware

[max1024]

What about "Prize section" ?

[websmile]

Work in progress on this, but this is not my business, I know Pieter is working on this

@GunGod - seems you will get lots of training on this

[Marquzz]

The cup did not even start now and you panic?

I am quite amused tbh, all changes are already tasked internally for hours now, and stage rules are clear for example on the mobile sandy/ivy. @Taloken SC2-4 are completely linked to ddr generation. If you are willing to develop an amd board with ddr4 in one day, we can delete Haswell from SC1 and use only ddr4 at current gen

 

No panic from my side But since I've been in a few competitions and in practically every one there are discussions about HW limitations and rules even after start, so my thought is to make everyting clear from the start so nothing is up for interpretation.

[BenchBrothers.de]

Quick question:

 

SC3, Stage 6:

Only use processors using socket Socket AM2.

 

I understand it that way that even Phenom/Phenom II are allowed. Am I right or wrong?

[websmile]

I agree on this, as said there are already iinternal tasks to fix typos and errors. I really hope we get this database issue fixed fast as well, but this is sadly beyond my power

 

edit AM2 in our definition of database - please note that after internal discussion we stay with the decision to not allow server cpus

Overclocking, overclocking, and much more! Like overclocking.

[Remarc]

the stages are sorted by Memory type

 

you say about the sorted by of memory type but where is sdr and fpm/edo?

[websmile]

you say about the sorted by of memory type but where is sdr and fpm/edo?

 

Not present, I wish we could have done this as well. The main reason we did not include this was to keep the amount of stages and benchmarks in a limit that also gives smaller teams still a chance to compete, if we would have added 14 more stages or only seven more for example, it would have become even harder for smaller teams to compete

[BenchBrothers.de]

edit AM2 in our definition of database - please note that after internal discussion we stay with the decision to not allow server cpus

Overclocking, overclocking, and much more! Like overclocking.

 

Thank you, that answer is good news for me. I think I have a good setup then for this stage.

[Marquzz]

Just one last clarification, is it mandatory to run the correct memory type under each SC? Or is it allowed to run a mobile Haswell with DDR3 under SC1 stage 3, since, I as far as I know, there are no mobile Haswell with DDR4 support?

[websmile]

On this, it is same as with AMD, you bench what is available, current gen stage is the only one where we can not keep up the pattern to stay with memory type because of technical issues, AMD has no ddr4 system until now and the mobile haswell platform as well as Haswell desktop is ddr3 - sure you can use ddr3 for haswell mobile as well

Edited July 1, 2016 by websmile

[max1024]

you say about the sorted by of memory type but where is sdr and fpm/edo?

It will be in the new Old School 2017 I think

[StingerYar]

The ‘Dogpile’ round involves teams making as many submissions as possible with scores added together to make a total score. Only score per CPU/GPU allowed, so it’s all about digging out and scoring on as many different CPUs/GPUs as possible.

Sorry for dumb question, but I don't get it. Is it limited like 1 submission per overclocker, or one man can submit 50 results to this stage, for example?

[websmile]

You can submit as many different cpus as you want. The only restriction is that each model only counts 1x for the team, means if you submit 2160 and teammate does the same, only the better result will add to the final result.

[StingerYar]

You can submit as many different cpus as you want. The only restriction is that each model only counts 1x for the team, means if you submit 2160 and teammate does the same, only the better result will add to the final result.

Ok, thanks for answer

[Marquzz]

On this, it is same as with AMD, you bench what is available, current gen stage is the only one where we can not keep up the pattern to stay with memory type because of technical issues, AMD has no ddr4 system until now and the mobile haswell platform as well as Haswell desktop is ddr3 - sure you can use ddr3 for haswell mobile as well

 

Ok, great to get that clearified. But then I have a follow up question, is it allowed to use another memory type if possible, even though the "correct" one is available? Example: SC3 Stage 1, can we use DDR3 motherboards for this one? This is just one example, there are more stages where this is possible.

[websmile]

No sc2-4 are bound without exception to memory type stated at validation stage

[StingerYar]

Looks like dogpile stage is not working right. Me and my teammate have submitted 2 different cpus (E3300 & T4500), right now only E3300 is shown (on stage page)...

[websmile]

I created an internal task to fix this, might need a few days

[Aleslammer]

SC3 Stage 2 & SC4 Stage 1, the only CPUs that fit most of the numbers given are in the Netburst (Pentium 4,90nm) category, don’t have any idea what the 160 is. Also this would only allow 1 cpu the Celeron D 350 for socket 478 and after a quick search of Ebay not real abundant. If this has been asked sorry but don’t recall see it.

[websmile]

This is a database issue I explained before, both categories offer plenty of cpus. We asked the coding guys to fix this over two weeks ago... no idea when this will be fixed, but we did not want to delay cup again

example

Related Netburst CPUs for socket 775

[Aleslammer]

Thank you for the reply so its any netburst cpu available for the socket as related in the leaked information.

[Johnd0e]

can someone explain the "CPU must be different" and GPUs must be different" part for dogpile? not sure if its so simple that i dont get it or its just going over my head lol.

 

sorry if its been answered already.

 

 

EDIT: disregard. i got the answer to this question already.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Johnd0e

[lanbonden]

You can submit as many different cpus as you want. The only restriction is that each model only counts 1x for the team, means if you submit 2160 and teammate does the same, only the better result will add to the final result.

 

How about SLI/Crossfire, would it count as a different model then a single card of same modell for this stage?