zeropluszero Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 well we could just use the same background and that would solve all of the conflicts. 2 Quote
KaRtA Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) I planned an operation around this whole thing, can you make it earlier instead of later? Cause I wont be lifting a Dewar after. Make it Friday the 7th, and everyone will be happy. otherwise, can someone fly to QLD and be my pour bitch Edited December 3, 2018 by KaRtA Quote
Luebke Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 not friday please, we will start to bench on friday! ? On 12/3/2018 at 10:56 PM, zeropluszero said: well we could just use the same background and that would solve all of the conflicts. that might be the solution ;) Quote
yosarianilives Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Naw I like this change of background, sandbags are stupid. Tbh it'd be awesome if there could be a background change every day of the comp, but the overhead would be too much. Seriously guys, how hard is it to download the new background on the same laptop that you use for taking notes while benching? If you're not sandbagging then this is no big deal. Really sandbagging is stupid, if you're worried about people beating your scores then make bigger scores. Sandbagging only hurts competition. Quote
Luebke Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) the problem is not the download, the problem is to use accidentally the wrong background because you forgot to change the background at midnight or you forgot to upload one result at that day/before midnight and the next day it´s no longer valid... i have no problem with changing the background, but not at weekend or the day before or after. bigger sessions with extreme-cooling take place at weekends and on such sessions the risk for forgetting to change the background within the benchsession is to big. thats no matter of sandbagging. i don´t like sandbagging, too. but it might be very annoying to do all that work and pay hundrets of euros for LN2 and stuff and then everything was for nothing because of such a nothingness. Edited December 5, 2018 by Luebke Quote
ground Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 ^That's why I suggested one day where both backgrounds are valid during the transition Quote
Luebke Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) that and changing background allways on wendsday no trouble with bigger benchsessions... Edited December 5, 2018 by Luebke Quote
yosarianilives Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Luebke said: that and changing background allways on wendsday no trouble with bigger benchsessions... Yeah changing in the middle of the week is not a bad idea, and my comments about sandbags were more towards those saying we shouldn't do background changes... Quote
Guest Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Best sandbagging effort I ever witnessed was the Mad Shrimps team in Team Cup. Server was slowed bad, around same time as the sneaky coin mining of members pc's HWbot Really it's the last few days when the best scores are revealed Comps that are short like a week haha ... 1x month beforehand to purchase parts Quick you see, big scores straight up is more exciting if you can see a target to beat Quote
Luebke Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) maybe it was an idea to establish leadingpoints for each day your team is in top 3, 3 leadingpoints for 1st place, 2 lp for second, 1 lp for third. to win the title or get a rostrum-place your team need to have at least x lp. does your team not have enough lp, it´s maximum rated 4th. so you can bench the whole time without any ristrictions but have to fight the whole time for a leading place to earn the needed lp. maybe the leadingpoints should be given for top 5 ot top 10, else a top team could fall through because most time of the cup other topteams hold the top 3 places and the best team faid to earn enough lp... this idea needs to be elaborated, but i think it has potential... Edited December 6, 2018 by Luebke 1 Quote
Dead Things Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Feedback for deaf ears: rules re: mainboard tab and sensors tab are just good ol' fashioned retarded. Finally managed to fit it all in my window. Good luck to mods trying to make sure my competition wallpaper is compliant. Edited December 6, 2018 by Dead Things Quote
Darthresin Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 Ok so since its moved around, current background is good until th 10th right? Getting ready bench tonight and dont wanna lose a bunch of money doing subs that dont count Quote
zeropluszero Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 @Leeghoofd Hey Alby, will we have the new background available immediately tomorrow? 1 Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 10, 2018 Author Crew Posted December 10, 2018 yep, current backgroudn is valid till 23.59 CET, From the 11th only the new one is legit... so submit in due time plz and don't wait till the final minute... Quote
Crew stummerwinter Posted December 10, 2018 Crew Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Question: my Dothan-submission for referance clock (score) does not appear in the ranking: competition ranking It is recorded as belong to ranking, see top of the screen shot: Edited December 10, 2018 by stummerwinter Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted December 10, 2018 Members Posted December 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, stummerwinter said: Question: my Dothan-submission for referance clock (score) does not appear in the ranking: competition ranking It is recorded as belong to ranking, see top of the screen shot: Only one submission per user per stage, so your better submission is counting. Quote
suzuki Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Can you clarify this for single core stage : One submission allowed per CPU socket This means that if we have a L3014 sub ,a P4 640 is not counted anymore ? Quote
ObscureParadox Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 No the L3014 counts as a 771 CPU as it's based off the socket of the CPU itself Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted December 10, 2018 Members Posted December 10, 2018 @Leeghoofd needing clarification here. Two AM3 chips used in two different boards (one AM3 on AM2+), count as two subs? (so go by the mobo socket) Two different 775 boards used, one s771 cpu and one s775 cpu, count as two subs? (so go by the cpu socket) Which is correct? This thread has confused me Quote
ground Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, GeorgeStorm said: @Leeghoofd needing clarification here. Two AM3 chips used in two different boards (one AM3 on AM2+), count as two subs? (so go by the mobo socket) Two different 775 boards used, one s771 cpu and one s775 cpu, count as two subs? (so go by the cpu socket) Which is correct? This thread has confused me And now to complicate it even more, does it matter which bench? For Ref Freq I could see the first line applying and for everything else the second line. Quote
suzuki Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, ObscureParadox said: No the L3014 counts as a 771 CPU as it's based off the socket of the CPU itself It makes sense if it’s benched on skt 771 board,but if you bench both cpu’s on the same Rampage extreme it should be only one accepted. Quote
cbjaust Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said: @Leeghoofd needing clarification here. Two AM3 chips used in two different boards (one AM3 on AM2+), count as two subs? (so go by the mobo socket) Two different 775 boards used, one s771 cpu and one s775 cpu, count as two subs? (so go by the cpu socket) Which is correct? This thread has confused me For the Reference Frequency Stage it seems to be based on the Socket the CPU is intended for. Here unityofsaints' score using an AM3 Phenom II X4 970 on the C4E (an AM3 board): http://hwbot.org/submission/4004746_unityofsaints_reference_frequency_crosshair_iv_extreme_405.85_mhz is apparently being trumped by macsbeach98's score using an AM3 Sempron 145 on the AM2+ 790FXB-M2RSH: http://hwbot.org/submission/3974543_macsbeach98_reference_frequency_lanparty_dk_790fxb_m2rsh_429.97_mhz I think the Reference Frequency stage should be based on the Socket of the Mainboard rather than the CPU being used as seems to be the case. For CPU benchmarks it should be as it is - i.e. based on the CPU socket. 1 Quote
Crew Bilko Posted December 10, 2018 Crew Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, cbjaust said: For the Reference Frequency Stage it seems to be based on the Socket the CPU is intended for. Here unityofsaints' score using an AM3 Phenom II X4 970 on the C4E (an AM3 board): http://hwbot.org/submission/4004746_unityofsaints_reference_frequency_crosshair_iv_extreme_405.85_mhz is apparently being trumped by macsbeach98's score using an AM3 Sempron 145 on the AM2+ 790FXB-M2RSH: http://hwbot.org/submission/3974543_macsbeach98_reference_frequency_lanparty_dk_790fxb_m2rsh_429.97_mhz I think the Reference Frequency stage should be based on the Socket of the Mainboard rather than the CPU being used as seems to be the case. For CPU benchmarks it should be as it is - i.e. based on the CPU socket. Pretty sure Unitys submission will be re added to the comp and you're correct, Ref clock goes off Motherboard socket and CPU benches go off CPU socket used. It took a while but we finally have an answer for this......I think 1 Quote
macsbeach98 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Reference clock goes off the motherboard Alby has already said so. Talk to him about it when he gets back. Quote
ObscureParadox Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Reference clock is based off the motherboard socket and all CPU benchmarks are based off the CPUs intended socket. As simple as that 1 Quote
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