Its time to overhaul XTU.....

[speed.fastest]

So this is not a benchmark, but score based on value you set that detected by XTU but must finish the test. What make me think this is not a benchmark because variable score is too tight, even if i test XTU with Youtube opened, score is not affected

[crustytheclown]

Some initial feedback on this topic.

 

This issue was highlighted to the XTU development team on May 7, 2015. Our report was based on findings of user @henkenator68NL who provided us with the test data via @HiVizMan. Based on the findings, the XTU development team added a fix in v6.0.2.8 which prevents a user from changing the priority of the benchmark process or any other XTU related processes. This version was released in October 2015.

 

Based on this thread we'll check if this issue is still present on the latest XTU release and if so, check with the XTU development team for more information.

 

Nope you can change every process' priority.

They just moved all the processes in a temp file that gets erased at the end of each benchmark.

It's very easy to just copy these temp processes while running xtu and change anything you need to them and then just throw them back in the temp file to be ready for the next run.Simple as that.

[Guest 0.0]

New dual core record

 

http://hwbot.org/xtu/share/359012?clientVersion=6.0.2.8

 

Yep, still needs improving. (The bench, not the score )

[Massman]

New dual core record

 

http://hwbot.org/xtu/share/359012?clientVersion=6.0.2.8

 

Yep, still needs improving. (The bench, not the score )

 

Thanks, can you send the data-file to pieter@hwbot.org? A "how-to" would be nice too

[DrWeez]

send it to Drweez@haha.com as well

[subaruwrc]

its time to let it go ..

[xxbassplayerxx]

[nickolp1974]

[Splave]

Thanks, can you send the data-file to pieter@hwbot.org? A "how-to" would be nice too

 

how to is in the first post

[Guest 0.0]

Thanks, can you send the data-file to pieter@hwbot.org? A "how-to" would be nice too

 

Just did a quick install and run, didn't save any datafile.

 

There's http://hwbot.org/xtu/settings/359013 if that's any use.

 

I don't think one can ever stop some few people cheating, all we can do is hopefully make it hard enough that they will not try. By posting methods it makes it easier for them and just opens a can of worms IMHO.

 

Better the development team/person overhauls the bench as the title says rather than just dealing with the posted vulnerability.

[websmile]

I saw too much results out of line to think that this is new to some people, opinions can vary on if it was OK or not to publish this, but personally I refuse to blame the messenger, though it is always good if you contact staff first. "Tweaks" like these spread fast in the dark, at least now we have the awareness of people on this. Very tough situation, let´s hope there can be a fix

[Doug2507]

Sure, junk it and stop chasing the money trail.

[Massman]

Just did a quick install and run, didn't save any datafile.

 

There's http://hwbot.org/xtu/settings/359013 if that's any use.

 

I don't think one can ever stop some few people cheating, all we can do is hopefully make it hard enough that they will not try. By posting methods it makes it easier for them and just opens a can of worms IMHO.

 

Better the development team/person overhauls the bench as the title says rather than just dealing with the posted vulnerability.

 

Thanks, forwarded the info to devs.

[websmile]

Sure, junk it and stop chasing the money trail.

 

It is an easy to do bench even for newcomers, it is supposed to give hints on system performance and show people that benchmarks and measuring system performance can be fun. Not all is about the money, and if you know me, you also know my opinion on big cash dominating the ranks

 

P.S. anyway, we need a fix or we have a constant problem^^

[dumo]

If easy to cheat then the rest will be sooo easy

[K404]

 

Permaban.

[Guest george.kokovinis]

My 0.02 cents in this thread.

 

Hade never heard about this Lasso thing.

As a matter of fact, I do not know anything about apps intervening in benchmarks.

I read about Wazza and LOD tweaks and it is like Asimov stories.

 

Any way, I decided to download this application and give it a shot

on Z170.

Followed Splave's instructions to the last comma.

 

Well, it appears that this thing has no effect on Z170.

More feedback from others with Z170 is a must, because maybe I do not know what I am doing ( I would not be surprised ).

 

By the way, Latest XTU version is installed on Win10 x 64 Pro.

[Spiedie]

Just tried on Z97 W7 with HPET enabled and disabled: that seems to be the issue. With HPET enabled and Process Lasso enabled, p95-bench.exe runs at normal priority. After disabling HPET and rebooting, Lasso does its thing and it runs at Realtime priority (causing the issues).

 

Well, it appears that this thing has no effect on Z170

 

If skylake is unaffected then is looks to be the same old RTC bug (or Intels attempt at fixing the issue with RTC in XTU, fixes breaking things never happened before right?).

[Doug2507]

You can run lasso real-time with hpet. There's 2 files that need priority assigned for full effect.

[zeropluszero]

It is an easy to do bench even for newcomers, it is supposed to give hints on system performance and show people that benchmarks and measuring system performance can be fun.

Yeh but so is every other benchmark.

[Doug2507]

Give em 3d mark instead. At least it's got pretty pictures...

[TX_OC]

As a quick to program, temporary fix until a proper fix is released, xtu devs should make xtu compare core frequency with max achieved frequency

[FUGGER]

Some insight:

 

Intel has contracted a 3rd party to code XTU since it was moved from "Iron City"

 

The programmers name is Ben and he is close to the Intel engineers I work with.

 

George, Allen, and I have met Ben.

 

Ben took this picture:

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1612698442343092&set=a.1612698452343091.1073741828.100008088543899&type=3&theater

 

If we can figure out a fix to make Ben's job easier that would help, suggestions are welcome. Massman and I know who to contact to escalate this.

[Massman]

You can run lasso real-time with hpet. There's 2 files that need priority assigned for full effect.

 

Can you PMe the exact instructions so we can replicate and patch?

 

Thanks :celebration:

[Doug2507]

Can you PMe the exact instructions so we can replicate and patch?

 

Thanks :celebration:

 

Sure pj. Away to do fresh os install today so I'll check out what the other .executive was. Maybe Allen could tell you if he's already setup? P95.exe and can't remember the other.