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K all, probably early days as we are aiming to host this one around mid June or such, but maybe not bad to take an early start on what the community wants to see regarding stages or benchmarks.

We already had some great ideas at Keeph8ans Discord channel, but to keep track of stuff, better start a thread here

 

  • 3dmark06:  DDR:  socket 939 limitation
                          DDR2: 2 processor cores and 2 GPU cores (GPU core G80-92)
                          DDR3: 3 processor cores and 3 GPU cores
                          DDR4: 4 processor cores and 4 GPU cores (nVIDIA only)
     
  •  3dmark99: DDR: AMD CPU and AGP4x/8x
                         DDR2: 2 processor cores, GF 106-116(') cores, Mobos based on nForce chipset
                         DDR3: LGA775 4 cores, 1 video core
     
  •  Unigine Basic:  DDR: Socket A platform and nVidia videocard
                                 DDR2: 1 CPU core and 2 GPUs in SLI/crossfire 
                                 DDR3: 2 CPU cores, Geforce 400 family
                                 DDR4: AMD APUs only
     
  •  3DMark03:  DDR: socket 478, AGP4x/8x
                           DDR2: 1 CPU core, ATI HD 4000 family
                           DDR3: 6 core CPUs, Geforce 500 family
                           DDR4: CGN 5tgh gen (Vega)
     
  •  3DMash-up: DDR: Aquamark3: Geforce2 family
                            DDR2: Vantage (GPU score) : ATI HD 2000
                            DDR3: FireStrike (GPU score) : Intel IGP 
                            DDR4: Unigine SuperPosition 8K
     
  •  X265 1080P: DDR: Socket 478
                              DDR2: Conroe& Woodcrest 4M cpus
                              DDR3: 4cores LGA 1366
                              DDR4: AM4 only
     
  •  MemFreq:  DDR: no socket 939 -- 1024Mb -- Cas 3
                          DDR2: no socket 771-775 -- 2048Mb -- Cas 5
                          DDR3: AM3/AM3+ -- 8192Mb -- Cas 10
                          DDR4: 16348Mb -- Cas 15
     
  •  SuperPi 32M: DDR:  Socket 754 -- 8 multi max
                              DDR2: Quad cores -- 8 multi max
                              DDR3: Zambezi core -- 10 multi max (benchmate)
                              DDR4: no LGA 1200 -- 12 multi max (benchmate)
     
  •  Cinebench 2003: (notebooks & notebook parts only, no desktop CPUs!!
     
  •  GPUPI 3.2 for CPU: DDR: 100M
                                        DDR2: 100M -- Allendale 2M
                                        DDR3: 1B -- AMD
                                        DDR4: 1B
     
  •  Wprime 1024:  DDR: Duron processors
                                 DDR2: AM2 processors
                                 DDR3: Clarkdale processors
                                 DDR4: AM4 (benchmate)

 

Ofcourse we can't plz everybody and might rule out too exotic or super expensive (server) hardware

https://hwbot.org/competition/team_cup_2020

 

 

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Let's brainstorm!!

 

 

 

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My ideas for last year's Team Cup that didn't make it in the competition:

DDR:
Maximum memory frequency with 2x1GB (but we had max memory frequency already last year, so not sure about this one)

DDR2:
some multithreaded benchmark on Pentium D (Smithfield and Presler)
3DMark 03 with GeForce 7x00 (and Wolfdale or Conroe core?)

DDR3:
32M on Clarkdale
Max BCLK on LGA1366

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2 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

so  I assume it's okay to keep the DDR 1-2-3-4 formula

Oh hell yeah :)

Allso please do something with original Phenom(prefferably multicore, maybe something like 1,2,3,4 cores (am2(+) cpus only, ddr2 stage ofc), would techically only need original phenom in 3 core slot), i know they are boring, but pretty sure they get forgotten in every single competition, either it's a64 x2 or ph 2 :D

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2 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

so  I assume it's okay to keep the DDR 1-2-3-4 formula

I like this idea, could we also add a section for misc benches? So we could things like a classic "ddr1-2-3-4 mem frequency" or a dog pile stage with no mem restrictions either on something relatively easy to run on slightly older hw or for a dx9 3d bench. Basically any stage that wouldn't fit into a single mem type well would go into misc category. Also would be good as I think more than one dog pile stage overall is probably too much. 

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17 minutes ago, TAGG said:

Oh hell yeah :)

Allso please do something with original Phenom(prefferably multicore, maybe something like 1,2,3,4 cores (am2(+) cpus only, ddr2 stage ofc), would techically only need original phenom in 3 core slot), i know they are boring, but pretty sure they get forgotten in every single competition, either it's a64 x2 or ph 2 :D

Or for a bunch of fun just say am2+ and see people hunt down the few deneb chips while still getting a mainly 1st gen phenom stage. Could be a nice continuation of the "am3 no thuban" cinebench stage from two years ago. 

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4 minutes ago, ground1556 said:

whatever holds the record at the start of the comp I guess.

I mean how hard would it be to just say no 1151, no 3rd gen ryzen? 

So total stack would be like no 939, 775, 1150, 1152, or 3rd gen ryzen. 

Still pretty simple and allows for decent scores but no wr/gfp

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Just now, yosarianilives said:

Or for a bunch of fun just say am2+ and see people hunt down the few deneb chips while still getting a mainly 1st gen phenom stage. Could be a nice continuation of the "am3 no thuban" cinebench stage from two years ago. 

The point of 1,2,3,4 core am2(+) is that you can bench one of the 2 denebs, but still have to bench 3 diffrent architectures to get ideal score :)

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10 minutes ago, TAGG said:

The point of 1,2,3,4 core am2(+) is that you can bench one of the 2 denebs, but still have to bench 3 diffrent architectures to get ideal score :)

Ok, idea doesn't work unless we don't allow unlocking, cause then it'd be only singlecore  + denebs again... :(

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51 minutes ago, FUGGER said:

 

Non intel/AMD super pi stage

Memory restrictions? I can try to get a zhiaxin or whatever the Chinese ryzen cpu is lol

52 minutes ago, FUGGER said:

Fastest storage stage

Hmm I like this one, although it gets expensive fast and and hwbot doesn't really have a storage bench worth using plus the whole sata 850 Evo "driver" issue... 

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