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General Information This leaderboard is not available on hwbot.org The Global Masters is different from any other ranking at HWBOT. It features the leaderboard based on how you perform in global categories only, ranking overclockers by the total sum of global and wr points. The calculation of the GlobalMasters is thus as follows: GLM = SUM [All(global + wr)] Latest Standings Extra: 2D Global Masters Extra: 3D Global Masters

General Information The Overclockers League is the most prominent leaderboard at HWBOT. Developed by former staff member Mtzki and introduced in 2006, the League has undergone many updates to accomodate all aspects of overclocking. In its current form, the League is based on three parameters: benchmark rankings, hardware rankings, and competitions. Your Overclockers League score is calculated as follows: OCL = SUM [Top15(benchmark) + Top20(hardware) + Top10(competition)] The League is sub-divided in five categories, depending on your status in the overclocking world. There are: Elite, Extreme, Enthusiast, Novice, and Rookie overclockers. Each class has its own…

General Information The Teams League is the only leaderboard that ranks communities by their overclocking strength. Each overclocker member of the team contributes to the team’s points in two ways. First, there are the Team PowerPoints which are awarded to the best score of the team in any benchmark or hardware ranking. Second, a tenth of the total member points also contributes to the team. Thus, the formula to calculate the Team League is as follows: TL = SUM [ALL(TeamPowerPoints) + 1/10 (member points)] You can find the Teams League here: http://hwbot.org/league/teams Latest Standings

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Hey guys, I built a new PC last December and decided to switch to the AM5 platform. My old motherboard was broken, so I thought I'd upgrade everything to be more future-proof. Here are the specs: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X GPU: ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6750 XT PSU: Be Quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000W Cooler: DeepCool AK400 Digital Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X670E-F Gaming WiFi RAM: 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5-6000 CL36 I reused the SSDs and GPU from my old PC to save on costs. The operating system is Windows 11 Pro N, debloated with Tiny11. There is the original 120mm fan that came with the case at the back, and two Arctic fans …

Hello there, I'm currently in the process of building a gaming rig and I'm aiming for top-notch CPU performance. I've done my research, but I'm seeking some additional advice from the experts here at HWBOT. My main goal is to optimize my CPU for gaming, ensuring smooth gameplay and maximizing FPS in demanding titles. I'm torn between a few different options and could use some guidance on the best route to take. Here are some specific questions I have: Intel or AMD: Which brand currently offers the best performance for gaming rigs? Overclocking: Is it worth it for gaming purposes? If so, what are some safe overclocking techniques and tools to use? …

I have been competing in the enthusiast league for all year. During country cup I submitted 2 scores on chiller both not sub zero and ticked the box for the scores not to counted towards my total. There has been no issue till tonight and I have been upgraded to apprentice. I have been intentionally not subbing anything on chiller to stay in the enthusiast category for this year and given I was leading as of today this is a bit frustrating at the last minute. Provided no one does a big score drop at the last minute it would be rather unfortunate to loose my 1st place due to this

I think we need to rename apprentice to sub extreme. Apprentice can go down to -80 or -90 which is not a trainee. Some of our apprentices are the best in the world. Just saying . Hope you guys don't mind the comment but it's been bugging me for years. Apprenticeships. An apprenticeship is a structured training arrangement of usually 3.5 or four years duration. The training combines practical experience at work with complementary off-the-job training with a Registered Training Organisation

As i no longer participate in extreme cooling can my league be changed please. This would allow me to then compete in current Intel comps. Thank you

Hi, First of all, I fully understand if it isn't allowed, but with the recent and future competitions where your league matters I thought it was worth to ask. Last summer I made two submissions with chilled water which put me in the apprentice league. Since then I have only used AIOs and air coolers, and have no plans on changing that, making me feel like I belong in the enthusiast league rather than apprentice. These are the two subs I made: GB3 multi and GB3 single. Feel free to delete them or disable points. Thanks in advance

Hello A teamate submitted by mistake a submission as chilled but realized his league changed and corrected it to water custom.. he benches with air, aio and custom ambiant H2O ; see all his other subs and results, he is far from using any type of advanced cooling here is his profile https://hwbot.org/user/glacius99/ thanks in advance to a moderator if he can look it up. best

@Leeghoofd, By mistake my League was changed. I have been an "enthusiast' for long and it seems I will remain in this League. I don't have the means to move up the scale. I have been using Water (Custom), and in this submission I entered the wrong data ( Water (Chilled/Cold): https://hwbot.org/submission/4622351_randyenergy_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_ryzen_5_3500x_42.426_fps Your help is appreciated.

Is cascade cooling considered extreme league or apprentice? In the description of the extreme league "ready to battle each other with retail hardware and liquid nitrogen" where as Apprentice says "starting out with chilled water up to dry ice". Cascade is between dry ice and ln2 but in my opinion is a lot closer to dry ice.

Hi OCers! @Massman @Leeghoofd @_mat_ @der8auer @NATA 58 @avalanche @ksateaaa23 @Mat_Agnesi I'm an overclocker for a few years now. I worked my way up with hard and long work-just like almost anyone here on top positions. But now I'm facing .. we Enthusiasts are facing very depriving situation: GAP. The points are distributed in such a horrible way that Enthusiast overclocking is slowly making no sense at all. Today I've made a lot of scores and submissions with 3970X Threadripper, despite 3 days of testing, regulating and getting such awesome results for a real life usage like rendering, Those are scores at almost highest possible levels for LC cooling, …

I think TEC / Peltier / Water (Chilled/Cold) cooling category must be renamed to waterchiller because very few use tec or peltier. I bench on waterchiller and appear that i use TEC, wich is not accurate. http://forum.hwbot.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5022&stc=1&d=1480325227 Or better, make waterchiller separate cooling category (to display at cooling method of course). Thanks Ramiro

Hey HWBot, In light of a few results and discussions again lately, I just wanted to float an idea that’s been going around in circles for years. Also, keeping in mind the changes we have just experienced with the new revision, the simplicity of the points system now seems much better, so I can see a possible point to introduce What i I would like to propose is to reduce the Leagues down to 3. I know....I know..... we keep saying it but one day I hope there can be a simple resolution. My proposal : Extreme League - for everyone using LN2, LHe, DICE and Cascade cooling. Enthusiast - everything from Single …

Hi all, not sure if this is the right place but the question comes down to the league in the end. So i thought it might be good here. I was thinking buying a 9900K ans was proposed a piece based on a cpu-z screenshot, telling it is ES hardware. Then I took a look at the latest subs on Hwbot for 9900K and I see ES everywhere, for folks in the Extreme and Elite leagues. Is cpu-z mislabelling retail as ES? Or are Extreme benchers using ES while they should be Elite (or need to be promoted Elite) ? Before I buy, I'd like to know. Thanks

1: Why am I in the Enthusiast league? I should be in the Extreme league. 2: Why does it still say my points are disabled? They should be enabled. Thanks.

Inspiration by a screenshot I had to share. The biggest chunk of all HWbot is you guys all 95896 ... that number healthy & growing. Field of green all pushing upwards

Hi to all, Have noticed at least two cases of Apprentice League members moving to LN2. Thought that the system automatically moves them to Extreme League. Nope, has not happened for a week now. Anyone that can rectify that, please have a look

Hello HWBOT forum and fellow overclockers. Recently i had a discussion with a friend about overclocking and to whom it really appeals. As i have seen many of you in other places except the hwbot forum, i would like to see the age range of overclocking. I also would like to know the reasons you keep (extreme) overclocking and what gives you motivation. All this because i am just a 15 year old, trying to climb the rankings, and maybe continue overclocking as an job, so yeah, suggestions and thoughts are always thankful. Greekphantom

Hey guys, I'd like to know your opinions on the subject: The line between chilled water and normal water. 1) Temps or purpose? Is it about temps which are hard to verify. Or is it about cooling method and purpose by itself? Example: A) You live in area where is 30°C and your home is equipped with AC, so you're benching in 20°C. Ambient or chiiled/cold? I say ambient. B) You live in area where is 24°C and you run AC to 16°C or below with purpose to cool down the air so the temp of water in loop goes down, is that ambient or chilled/cold water? I say chilled/cold C) You put out rads in winter or open the window to decrease temps below norma…

Hello Overclockers. Some time ago, I decided to don't care about rankings, since the rules not follow the things I think is basic, and fair. So we keep overclocking here in my country, and even we encourage people to join Hwbot, push scores and so on... but personally, I don't mind about rankings (what imho is different than "to brake records"). I even don't want you change the rules, because I am no more involved, since my opinion never was considered, so, is just a tip. So, regardless all, I love Overclocking... I like the League, and respect you guys, even some don't like my way of view. Then will leave my 2 cents, than you can think and discuss if you w…

Just wanted to quickly share this data I pulled for a friend. It's useful information for everyone!