August 22, 20186 yr Hi, just to double check: if I do the motherboard hardmod (Z170M OCF) and connect "T_SKT_OCC" to ground (soldering) THEN NO need for bridging the CPU too (AC35-AB35)?! AND independent from the way of "T_SKT_OCC" grounding: NO isolating needed (AJ30/AK27)?! as they are connected different on the Board (MOCF) other then OCF were the "burn" Edited August 22, 20186 yr by the_patchelor
August 22, 20186 yr Correct, with the hardmod you don't need to short the cpu pads. However mocf still requires you isolate the pads or it WILL burn the pins out of socket.
August 22, 20186 yr Really? Saw some User reporting it will work fine without isolating on MOCF. Yea may better not to risk...
August 22, 20186 yr 52 minutes ago, the_patchelor said: Really? Saw some User reporting it will work fine without isolating on MOCF. Yea may better not to risk... I know of 5 mocf with burnt pins, 2 are mine. Still work fine after but if you care about keeping your socket pristine for resale or whatever, then you need to isolate. Basically the first time you boot with a coffee chip it smokes the pins off then they don't touch so it doesn't matter after that.
August 22, 20186 yr Tranks for clearification,so it will burn and smoke the 2 Pins as well. Got it. The difference on MOCF is, it will work then even and still without this two killed socket Pins
August 22, 20186 yr Confirmed mocf working fine with 2 missing pins, however all the ones I know of use discreet gpu. I am not sure if igpu still works with the burnt pins. Edited August 22, 20186 yr by bigblock990
August 22, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, the_patchelor said: Really? Saw some User reporting it will work fine without isolating on MOCF. Yea may better not to risk... 8700k will for sure, 8350k has been fine for me without. It is just a 7600k for the most part
August 23, 20186 yr 14 hours ago, the_patchelor said: Hi, just to double check: if I do the motherboard hardmod (Z170M OCF) and connect "T_SKT_OCC" to ground (soldering) THEN NO need for bridging the CPU too (AC35-AB35)?! AND independent from the way of "T_SKT_OCC" grounding: NO isolating needed (AJ30/AK27)?! as they are connected different on the Board (MOCF) other then OCF were the "burn" I didn't isolate AJ30 / AK27 and burned the two pins (MOCF). Btw motherboard is working fine with 8700k, 8600k and also kaby 7350k and sky 6320 Edited August 23, 20186 yr by superpatodonaldo
August 24, 20186 yr On 8/23/2018 at 6:10 AM, superpatodonaldo said: I didn't isolate AJ30 / AK27 and burned the two pins (MOCF). Btw motherboard is working fine with 8700k, 8600k and also kaby 7350k and sky 6320 yeah my ATX OCF got burnt as well but it still works fine with both kaby and coffee.
August 25, 20186 yr found a short track to ground, will be covered by NVMe 970pro drive Edited August 25, 20186 yr by the_patchelor
August 29, 20186 yr On 8/25/2018 at 9:48 PM, the_patchelor said: found a short track to ground, will be covered by NVMe 970pro drive and T_GND is too obvious?
August 30, 20186 yr yes I was thinking to use it first, but it was looking for the shortest possible wire routing some other issue... I'm trying to get 2x16GB Sticks (Kit: F4-4000C19D-32GTZKK) working but, can't get higher than 3600. I had already to raise VCCIO to 1.250v and have to use a lower VCCSA 1.110v to get Karhu RAM Test runing and not stopping after a a few % coverage. I know that 16GB Sticks are tricky but I hope that at some point I can run them on 4000.... may not on the MOCF ? Anyone who has experience with 32GB on MOCF? Edited August 30, 20186 yr by the_patchelor
August 30, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, the_patchelor said: Anyone who has experience with 32GB on MOCF? Not on the mocf, but I did get 32gb to 4000 mhz on z270 soc, so the IMC is capable of it. http://hwbot.org/submission/3779670_yosarianilives_3dmark2001_se_hd_graphics_630_63783_marks
September 1, 20186 yr Hi, i have a problem and need your help please. When i start my PC (MOCF, 8700k, Bios 7.51e, speedshift enable, Win 10 Pro) speedshift doesn't work. I open HWINFO and the speedshift icon is red not green. After a reboot everything works as it should, the CPU clocks down and the speedshift icon is green. Does anyone have similar problem with speedshift or can try it and report? Edited September 2, 20186 yr by Wheelchair
September 2, 20186 yr Does the new bios(7.51e) for Z170 mocf support samsung 21300 ram? I bought this because asrock advertised it could support up to 3833Mhz, but it doesn't work on Z170 extreme7, so I had to mix it with 17000 ram to clock it down and work. And could someone check if this bios is modded correctly? I made this myself for Z170 extreme7+ and 8600k was supposed to arrive yesterday but it didn't. I'm dying to find out if it works or not. Base bios is 7.40. microcode_done.rom
September 4, 20186 yr So, I recently purchased everything I need to try LN2 for the first time (including a storage container that cost $700 - WTF?) and for the first time in a long time I found myself with no motherboard to plug some CPUs into (either given away to family members, used in my own work/play system or had been fried in some other endeavor) and went to Newegg and started perusing and remembered this thread and sure though I found a new one for $120 which seems like a steal and a lot cheaper than even an open box Z270, so ya - thanks for this thread! I purchased a high quality conductive pen for the 8700K, too.
September 4, 20186 yr Members You mean a dewar for 700usd? Also guessing you found the non M version for 120usd? As otherwise that was a ridiculous steal!
September 5, 20186 yr On 9/4/2018 at 12:56 AM, GeorgeStorm said: You mean a dewar for 700usd? Also guessing you found the non M version for 120usd? As otherwise that was a ridiculous steal! Yes, the dewar was 700 USD. Made by International Cryogenics, INC. That got me 10L - which is small. Mind you, I went on Amazon and it looks like this particular vendor is really expensive. I have no idea why - but I'm also probably derailing this thread but please feel free to send me a private message guiding me out of stupidity. I saw on another thread somewhere that Splave has a 50L and 35L dewar and that got him something like 6 hours of benching. Did he really drop $3,000 on just the containers? Seems like the major costs for LN2 are all upfront because the LN2 is cheap where I'm at - $3.00/liter - at least I think that is cheap. In regard to the non-M version - I have no idea what that means. Here is what arrived the other day - tell me if I got a good deal? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157649 $127.00
September 6, 20186 yr Actually, George - if we had both been paying attention we might have noticed a few posts back this: So looks like I get a good deal ? Still don't know what a "non M version" is so please enlighten me.
September 6, 20186 yr Does the 6/7th gen cpus still work after the bios update for the 8700K on the mocf?
September 6, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, marco.is.not.80 said: Actually, George - if we had both been paying attention we might have noticed a few posts back this: So looks like I get a good deal ? Still don't know what a "non M version" is so please enlighten me. The M version is Z170M oc formula (Micro) That is much much better board for OC and LN2 then the regular one (No Micro)
September 6, 20186 yr So I got the wrong board is that what I'm hearing? The link above that everyone is saying was a good deal - that linked to the non-M version, too but in reality it also means no one would actually buy that board? This non-micro formfactor board that I now have out on my table - it's not the Asrock board that everyone was doing 12-12-12-28 back when it wasn't so fashionable? Jesus Christ. The marketing departments of these mobo companies need to help us poor customers out a little - I'm getting tired of figuring out if I need the new Asus Maximus Rampage Roadrage Formula One Nascar Super Fly Jimmy Snuka Off the Top Rope Camel Clutch Extreme XXXV.I with RGB+ lighting - or - wait - is it the same board but the Gaming line? Or wait a sec... I need the ROG version which is the same name but instead of the Extreme it is the Macho Man Randy Savage OC variant but only the one which is ATX and not the E-ATX version - unless it is v1.1 of the board then it is ok to get the E-ATX version - just make sure it's the one manufactured in Mongolia because the others don't have the solid gold mosfet with diamond dandruff sprinkled on them. Just did a quick search of Newegg, Amazon and Ebay. Don't even see a Z170M version of this board. I did find it on ASRock's website with this lovely caption: "This model may not be sold worldwide. Please contact your local dealer for the availability of this model in your region." Gonna assume this translates into "if you don't speak Mandarin or Cantonese or live at least close to Taiwan, China or Korea you'll need to go with Asus and get the Mini-Macho Man Romulus Formula XXX Strip Poker Maximus Humpback Edition v1.1" Frack me in the goat bum. Oh well, I'm sure I'll feel better when I realize that 10 liters of LN2 equals 5 minutes of benching and will have to shell out $2,800 to get the 50L dewar versions. You know what? Frack it. I'm going to cash in my 401k and build an LN2 Silo. Frack the little kid dewars - I'm going full grain alcohol silo complete with tracks so the train can stop in front of my house and refuel me. You gotta start thinking big people... Anyways, I'm gonna go have a drink. marco
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